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Post by GBGav on Mar 6, 2017 14:08:33 GMT -5
That alone can be more memorable than actually meeting a wrestler at a signing session for example. It's not something that everyone gets to experience, spotting someone "in the wild" by chance and just watching what they're doing for a few moments. Almost 20 years ago I spotted a big name footballer who played for my team by chance as he was exiting a bar with his partner. I was on a bus so couldn't exactly meet him but I'll always remember that moment regardless. It comes to mind clearer than most WWE signings that I've been to. People are going to do what they want to do, but my whole point is just that if you bother Randy Orton in the gym and he yells at you to go  off and leave him alone, you don't really have grounds to come on a message board and say he's mean to the fans. Completely agree. If I saw Randy as you did I'd just watch for a bit but wouldn't approach. If he was alone it might be different. Though having nothing to sign I'd probably just say hey or something. It's not fair to judge someone based off a rushed meeting at an airport. The wrestler can quite rightfully ask you to go play in the traffic. If I were in their shoes I'd probably just sign for kids. And attractive women. When it comes to judging a wrestler's personality, proper signings are more accurate. Some just look like they don't wanna be there even though that's what they're expected to do. And some are just the absolute coolest with everyone. |
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Post by marklud on Mar 6, 2017 14:17:18 GMT -5
I cringe at a lot of these stories that go viral and wish people would be more respectful. They don't owe you ANYTHING on their own time. I personally think finding and following wrestlers in search of an autograph/picture is creepy as hell. If you happen to bump into one sometime at a totally random time, that's different.
I'm an adult male so the only thing I find acceptable for me to do is a paid autograph appearance where everyone knows what's up (and even that can feel weird sometimes as I get older, but at least it's on the up and up). I've been to a couple and don't feel like I'm taking advantage of anyone's time or harassing them.
(Edit -- And as you can see in the picture below, this has been my philosophy since a young age, lol)
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Mar 6, 2017 14:27:04 GMT -5
just dont be ing weird. Wrestling fans are some of the weirdest people ive ever met. Like those people who paid money to take a picture in bed with a 45 year-old Sunny. That's just all kinds of creepy. I'm not some playboy by any means, but these guys have probably never even talked to a woman before without having to give their credit card number. |
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Mar 6, 2017 14:57:37 GMT -5
just dont be ing weird. Wrestling fans are some of the weirdest people ive ever met. Like those people who paid money to take a picture in bed with a 45 year-old Sunny. That's just all kinds of creepy. I'm not some playboy by any means, but these guys have probably never even talked to a woman before without having to give their credit card number. I help with a merch booth that sets up at local shows. def. see some weirdos...every time. What kills me is the weird 40 year old guys who walk around with replica belts at wrestling shows acting like theyre badass....dude you bought a belt...you are not part of the show, sit down and stop being weird. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 6, 2017 16:03:30 GMT -5
Sorry to say but the airport stalkers and all those screaming kids are part of the package when you become a WWE Superstar. Did you honestly just say that it's ok to be stalked because you're a celebrity? No I was simply stating that fame is included when you become a WWE Superstar. Also stalking is illegal and a serious offence so please explain how a bunch of fans standing in an airport begging for autographs is stalking? I'm from the UK and when a member of the Royal Family makes a public visit somewhere the entire area fills with thousands of people who are desperate to see them up close and in the flesh so does that make them stalkers aswell? Also singers and actors get harassed far worse than wrestlers do. Atleast wrestlers don't have paparazzi flashing cameras in their faces 24/7. Do I think it's wrong? Yes. But will it ever stop? No. |
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Mar 6, 2017 16:22:32 GMT -5
Like those people who paid money to take a picture in bed with a 45 year-old Sunny. That's just all kinds of creepy. I'm not some playboy by any means, but these guys have probably never even talked to a woman before without having to give their credit card number. I help with a merch booth that sets up at local shows. def. see some weirdos...every time. What kills me is the weird 40 year old guys who walk around with replica belts at wrestling shows acting like theyre badass....dude you bought a belt...you are not part of the show, sit down and stop being weird. I like you. You get it. |
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Post by Drew Yorkski on Mar 6, 2017 17:07:05 GMT -5
I was just having this discussion with my Pops the other day. There's a time and place for everything. There are certain places you just don't stop someone and ask for a picture or autograph. One being at the gym, a restaurant while eating, when said wrestler is with family (kids, wife/husband, etc.). The airport is hit and miss. I feel like if you sit and wait for these guys at 6 AM for autographs and pictures, it's kind of weird. Some of these fans take it too far. If you're an adult, you should know when it's ok and when it's not ok. If you happen to be in the same place at the same time as someone like at a Starbucks or out and about around town or something, then it's ok. But if you're legit following these people and demand autographs, don't be surprised when they tell you no.
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Post by jakksking1 on Mar 6, 2017 17:16:08 GMT -5
Stop and think how crazy a fan has to be in order to track when your flight is coming in. Then actually park at an airport and find where the flight is coming in. Seriously taking hours out of a persons day to get a 10 autograph. It's crazier than the paparazzi
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 6, 2017 17:53:53 GMT -5
Did you honestly just say that it's ok to be stalked because you're a celebrity? No I was simply stating that fame is included when you become a WWE Superstar. Also stalking is illegal and a serious offence so please explain how a bunch of fans standing in an airport begging for autographs is stalking? I'm from the UK and when a member of the Royal Family makes a public visit somewhere the entire area fills with thousands of people who are desperate to see them up close and in the flesh so does that make them stalkers aswell? Also singers and actors get harassed far worse than wrestlers do. Atleast wrestlers don't have paparazzi flashing cameras in their faces 24/7. Do I think it's wrong? Yes. But will it ever stop? No. The whole point is fans at APs or Hotels are NOT stalking. People who say stalking either do not understand what stalking is or are just trying to paint a negative connotation to it. Google is your friend. I wonder how these same people feel about paparazzi? They are doing the same thing...AND getting paid to do it. Yet many celebs stop to talk or pose for photos. Is this behavior ok? |
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Mar 6, 2017 18:05:13 GMT -5
No I was simply stating that fame is included when you become a WWE Superstar. Also stalking is illegal and a serious offence so please explain how a bunch of fans standing in an airport begging for autographs is stalking? I'm from the UK and when a member of the Royal Family makes a public visit somewhere the entire area fills with thousands of people who are desperate to see them up close and in the flesh so does that make them stalkers aswell? Also singers and actors get harassed far worse than wrestlers do. Atleast wrestlers don't have paparazzi flashing cameras in their faces 24/7. Do I think it's wrong? Yes. But will it ever stop? No. The whole point is fans at APs or Hotels are NOT stalking. People who say stalking either do not understand what stalking is or are just trying to paint a negative connotation to it. Google is your friend. I wonder how these same people feel about paparazzi? They are doing the same thing...AND getting paid to do it. Yet many celebs stop to talk or pose for photos. Is this behavior ok? ARE YOU FILMING THIS? ARE YOU FILMING ME???!!! We all know you beat up kids for shirts and have jeff hardys number. Its ok Jay Ryan, its ok. |
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Post by TheLastDude on Mar 6, 2017 18:10:08 GMT -5
I always get a kick out of justifying odd behavior. It's public information so it's ok to do it. No, it's weird. It's creepy. And it ab-so- ing-lutely IS stalking. Stalking isn't always "I want to rape you" or "I want to wear your skin as a suit" or "why won't you love me?", but finding out where someone is going to be and going there to find them is weird. You can defend and justify all you want, but it's wrong. Think about it. Seriously think about it. Take the celebrity angle out of it. Think about that cute girl from HR where you work. If you saw on Facebook that she was with her friends at a bar and you went there and stood in the parking lot and waited for her to come out and then you walked up and started talking to her...how is that NOT ing weird? If it's not at a predetermined venue like an arena, or a show, or a public signing, leave people the hell alone. |
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Mar 6, 2017 18:19:45 GMT -5
just dont be ing weird. Wrestling fans are some of the weirdest people ive ever met. Like those people who paid money to take a picture in bed with a 45 year-old Sunny. That's just all kinds of creepy. I'm not some playboy by any means, but these guys have probably never even talked to a woman before without having to give their credit card number. These days she'll do a lot more than just take a picture for money, but hey that's a different subject for a different tim |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 6, 2017 18:28:36 GMT -5
The whole point is fans at APs or Hotels are NOT stalking. People who say stalking either do not understand what stalking is or are just trying to paint a negative connotation to it. Google is your friend. I wonder how these same people feel about paparazzi? They are doing the same thing...AND getting paid to do it. Yet many celebs stop to talk or pose for photos. Is this behavior ok? ARE YOU FILMING THIS? ARE YOU FILMING ME???!!! We all know you beat up kids for shirts and have jeff hardys number. Its ok Jay Ryan, its ok. BWAHAHAHAAH!!! I always get a kick out of justifying odd behavior. It's public information so it's ok to do it. No, it's weird. It's creepy. And it ab-so- ing-lutely IS stalking. Stalking isn't always "I want to rape you" or "I want to wear your skin as a suit" or "why won't you love me?", but finding out where someone is going to be and going there to find them is weird. You can defend and justify all you want, but it's wrong. Think about it. Seriously think about it. Take the celebrity angle out of it. Think about that cute girl from HR where you work. If you saw on Facebook that she was with her friends at a bar and you went there and stood in the parking lot and waited for her to come out and then you walked up and started talking to her...how is that NOT ing weird? If it's not at a predetermined venue like an arena, or a show, or a public signing, leave people the hell alone. Look up what stalking is. Its not what you want it to be. It has a real definition. Creepy? Your opinion. Weird? Your opinion. And you are definitely the majority. But its not stalking. Thats just a "cute" term people who want to exaggerate use. I dont think weird is actually being debated. Weird is an opinion and its one that I agree with and I know many others agree with. |
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Post by ahunter8056 on Mar 6, 2017 18:42:22 GMT -5
I always get a kick out of justifying odd behavior. It's public information so it's ok to do it. No, it's weird. It's creepy. And it ab-so- ing-lutely IS stalking. Stalking isn't always "I want to rape you" or "I want to wear your skin as a suit" or "why won't you love me?", but finding out where someone is going to be and going there to find them is weird. You can defend and justify all you want, but it's wrong. Think about it. Seriously think about it. Take the celebrity angle out of it. Think about that cute girl from HR where you work. If you saw on Facebook that she was with her friends at a bar and you went there and stood in the parking lot and waited for her to come out and then you walked up and started talking to her...how is that NOT ing weird? If it's not at a predetermined venue like an arena, or a show, or a public signing, leave people the hell alone. Look up what stalking is. Its not what you want it to be. It has a real definition. Creepy? Your opinion. Weird? Your opinion. And you are definitely the majority. But its not stalking. Thats just a "cute" term people who want to exaggerate use. I dont think weird is actually being debated. Weird is an opinion and its one that I agree with and I know many others agree with. The problem with your argument is that stalking doesn't have one single global definition. Different places have slightly different definitions. At the very least, they all fall along the lines of: "Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching and/or harassing of another person". Under that definition, repeatedly following and watching celebrities absolutely can be defined as stalking. They don't necessarily have to threaten the person for it to classify as stalking. Some definitions say that they do, others don't. It depends on which definition you prefer. The type of people carrying out this type of behaviour aren't just doing it the once. They do it repeatedly. |
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Post by TheLastDude on Mar 6, 2017 18:56:25 GMT -5
Look up what stalking is. Its not what you want it to be. It has a real definition. Creepy? Your opinion. Weird? Your opinion. And you are definitely the majority. But its not stalking. Thats just a "cute" term people who want to exaggerate use. I dont think weird is actually being debated. Weird is an opinion and its one that I agree with and I know many others agree with. The problem with your argument is that stalking doesn't have one single global definition. Different places have slightly different definitions. At the very least, they all fall along the lines of: "Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching and/or harassing of another person". Under that definition, repeatedly following and watching celebrities absolutely can be defined as stalking. They don't necessarily have to threaten the person for it to classify as stalking. Some definitions say that they do, others don't. It depends on which definition you prefer. The type of people carrying out this type of behaviour aren't just doing it the once. They do it repeatedly. Don't waste your breath. I already have him blocked. I couldn't even see his response until you quoted him. He's never going to listen to reason because he is one hundred percent part of the problem and will always attack anyone who tries to undermine his flawed logic. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 6, 2017 19:03:11 GMT -5
Look up what stalking is. Its not what you want it to be. It has a real definition. Creepy? Your opinion. Weird? Your opinion. And you are definitely the majority. But its not stalking. Thats just a "cute" term people who want to exaggerate use. I dont think weird is actually being debated. Weird is an opinion and its one that I agree with and I know many others agree with. The problem with your argument is that stalking doesn't have one single global definition. Different places have slightly different definitions. At the very least, they all fall along the lines of: "Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching and/or harassing of another person". Under that definition, repeatedly following and watching celebrities absolutely can be defined as stalking. They don't necessarily have to threaten the person for it to classify as stalking. Some definitions say that they do, others don't. It depends on which definition you prefer. The type of people carrying out this type of behaviour aren't just doing it the once. They do it repeatedly. While definitions can vary, the idea of threatening is the core portion. There is an intent to do harm. Would you call the paparazzi stalkers? The problem with your argument is that stalking doesn't have one single global definition. Different places have slightly different definitions. At the very least, they all fall along the lines of: "Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching and/or harassing of another person". Under that definition, repeatedly following and watching celebrities absolutely can be defined as stalking. They don't necessarily have to threaten the person for it to classify as stalking. Some definitions say that they do, others don't. It depends on which definition you prefer. The type of people carrying out this type of behaviour aren't just doing it the once. They do it repeatedly. Don't waste your breath. I already have him blocked. I couldn't even see his response until you quoted him. He's never going to listen to reason because he is one hundred percent part of the problem and will always attack anyone who tries to undermine his flawed logic. Attack? I am simply having a debate with people. Once again...just another example of someone EXAGGERATING in order to push their POV. There is no attack. |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Mar 6, 2017 20:30:24 GMT -5
Glad to see most of the participants in this thread are against this 👏🏽
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Post by Iron Bison on Mar 6, 2017 20:34:21 GMT -5
The problem with your argument is that stalking doesn't have one single global definition. Different places have slightly different definitions. At the very least, they all fall along the lines of: "Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching and/or harassing of another person". Under that definition, repeatedly following and watching celebrities absolutely can be defined as stalking. They don't necessarily have to threaten the person for it to classify as stalking. Some definitions say that they do, others don't. It depends on which definition you prefer. The type of people carrying out this type of behaviour aren't just doing it the once. They do it repeatedly. Don't waste your breath. I already have him blocked. I couldn't even see his response until you quoted him. He's never going to listen to reason because he is one hundred percent part of the problem and will always attack anyone who tries to undermine his flawed logic. I wish I could like this post a million times. To justify the stalking ("not stalking") with saying it's in a public place, not harming them, yada yada yada. It's indeed stalking. How empty must your life be to waste your time and get autos and pics with celebs at airports and hotels? I got a wife and kid and my time goes to them. That fulfills me. Hell, before I met Ziggler, the last guy I met was Ron Simmons, and that was a year ago! I met Ziggler at a free signing a few weeks back and he was cool as can be but they did have to cut off the line and man, people were pissy and bitchy. The Man had to go to a live event later that day so IDK what they expected. And when he left, everyone crowded around him till his limo showed up. I was like Jesus Christ this guy can't even leave without being bothered. |
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Post by Iron Bison on Mar 6, 2017 20:44:38 GMT -5
just dont be ing weird. Wrestling fans are some of the weirdest people ive ever met. Yes! Dude, not to be mean or downgrade what these guys do but some or most of these guys are not gonna be anybody once they're gone. Bret said it best when he said people are "out of sight, out of mind." I was talking to a guy in line to meet Ziggler about how Ziggler had 200+ in line to meet him because he had the WWE machine behind him and someone like Ricky Steamboat (who I met 2 years ago) had only like 25+ people meeting him. So I don't get some of these fans's mentality sometimes. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 22:50:11 GMT -5
As someone who used to do this often, I get both sides of the arguement. Here in Michigan we dont get alot of signings at all, and when we do its a massive deal. Not to mention those Wizard World signings are so expensive with all the travel and whanot, and I wouldnt be able to afford them. So its hard to meet my favorite wrestlers, I have a friend who pieces together an idea of when theyll be there and we used to go up and wait there, and then we would go to show afterwards. If we werent going to the show then we wouldnt go up to the airport. Most wrestlers were nice about it and those who didnt want to be bothered we thanked and left them alone. That was years ago though, I dont do it anymore because im much older, dont have the time and I dont really wanna bother them. I get why they would get frustrated though with all the eBayers waiting around to make money off of them, its ridiculous. Plus theyre usually really rude and demanding, like I wish Paige wouldve knocked out that guy in the video earlier in the thread. I just dont want to be apart of it anymore. I mean these days if I saw them randomly on the street, I might approach them depending on the situation, but if theyre with their family or something leave them alone.
Back in November I traveled to Buffalo for RAW and after the show I went to eat and it just so happened to be where Big E, Xavier Woods, R-Truth, The Shining Stars and Sin Cara were eating and I didnt bother them at all. I talked to Xavier a little afterwards when we were both paying our bills, but I wouldve never approached them while they were eating.
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