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Post by East Coast on Mar 20, 2017 22:14:34 GMT -5
next....that show about Pee Wee football where the coaches fight the little kids....and make them run laps when the coaches show up to practice 40 mins late
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Post by J12 on Mar 20, 2017 22:14:51 GMT -5
Taker looks like he's capable of a Goldberg match and little else.
They've got a couple of disasters brewing.
Also, Reigns isn't turning. No idea why people think that at this point.
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Post by King Richius on Mar 20, 2017 22:15:48 GMT -5
*sigh* A very unspectacular Raw with an ending best summed up by:
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Post by iamkrang on Mar 20, 2017 22:16:02 GMT -5
Wish this was a buried alive match or casket match.
To retire Undertaker how his character should be.
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Post by cableV on Mar 20, 2017 22:16:14 GMT -5
I should have went to the Smackdown house show tonight.
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Post by deskjet on Mar 20, 2017 22:17:36 GMT -5
Zero. Is how many s I give about this wrestlemania
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Mar 20, 2017 22:18:01 GMT -5
Reigns is turning heel sooon. Oh myyy. You know, that's one good thing they've been doing the past couple of weeks is those lines and looks from him that are really teasing the heel turn. I just hope they follow through with it.
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Post by trukid on Mar 20, 2017 22:18:10 GMT -5
Im on ropes about goin next week
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Mar 20, 2017 22:18:51 GMT -5
Taker looks like he's capable of a Goldberg match and little else. They've got a couple of disasters brewing. Also, Reigns isn't turning. No idea why people think that at this point. Reigns essentially has turned.. he acts like a jerk and gets booed regularly.
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Post by J12 on Mar 20, 2017 22:20:34 GMT -5
Taker looks like he's capable of a Goldberg match and little else. They've got a couple of disasters brewing. Also, Reigns isn't turning. No idea why people think that at this point. Reigns essentially has turned.. he acts like a jerk and gets booed regularly. That would mean he's been a heel for almost three years. He's doing the same stuff he did with AJ last year, when everyone thought for sure they were turning him heel and they weren't. He's still in the babyface role with all his babyface spots. The Reigns turn has become as far fetched as the Cena turn. The only chance it has is Vince is so worried about his two main events being disasters (because neither Goldberg or Taker can work) that he goes with the shocking turn to save the show. Still, I think he'd rather sabotage Mania than give up on his golden goose.
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Post by Yayo on Mar 20, 2017 22:21:27 GMT -5
Why'd they have to ruin this GB ride along by including Golden truth as well? I never want to see Truth in any capacity
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Post by J12 on Mar 20, 2017 22:26:02 GMT -5
As someone who is flying to Orlando a week from Wednesday, these last two shows have crushed my spirits. Just have to keep reminding myself that it's all about the experience, and that it probably will still be better than last year.
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Post by hbkowns on Mar 20, 2017 22:27:35 GMT -5
Taker looked hurt after delivering one choke slam
God this match is going to be a train wreck.
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Post by Chip on Mar 20, 2017 22:28:19 GMT -5
here's the thing.... WM 30 the build was kinda chitty, because of the whole Bryan thing. We felt he got screwed, it soured everyone on Batista, we thought it was just gonna be the Big Dave getting a return moment. Shield was hot but got a pointless 6-man match The Cena/Wyatt thing felt uninspired Taker/Lesnar we were bitching because "how could a 50 year old guy beat a former UFC champ" But if you actually looked at the card there WAS potential the way it played out, and it became great. 31 had things like Orton/Rollins, Cena/Rusev, Sting/HHH, Reigns/Lesnar....most of the matches were at least built to, but people were kind of sour on the ideas because the results were obvious. The show ended up being great. Last year a lot of people were sour on the build because the matches didn't seem like they were gonna be any good but like we had the Ryder IC title win, Jericho/AJ was classic, Shane/UT was nuts, we all expected the main event to be a crap show and it was so that had its own level of ridiculous. But overall the show turned out OK I sit here and think about the HORRENDOUS attempt at building to Wrestlemania this year. And I legitimately cannot see how this show is going to be any good. At all. Literally every match outcome, the real fans lose. Owens beats Jericho....so Owens goes from World champ, main eventing, to mid-card champ doing.......something? Jericho beats Owens....Owens goes from World champ, to mid-card match, to losing to Jericho Goldberg beats Lesnar....or Lesnar beats Goldberg, the match is going to blow. Flat out. Blow. Undertaker clearly is in no shape to be wrestling anymore, and we're getting him versus ing Roman Reigns? Orton/Bray....when Orton wins, I'd love to see people defend that booking. And if he doesn't? I guess that will be OK, but I don't expect the match to have any real heat because Bray really is just an average worker, and Orton mails it in regularly. Shane beats AJ.....cant even tell you how bad that is.....AJ beats Shane, OK so he can beat the middle-aged son of the boss. Wow. Ambrose/Corbin feels like background noise Cena/Miz could have been a great build, and then they get ing female drama involved that is just going to turn that match into a ing piss break I guess Neville/Aries might be OK....but I could almost guarantee that gets no more than 10 minutes including entrances, and will be treated as a downright joke because THE ULTIMATE THRILL RIDE!!!!!!! If you actually write the card down and think about the way the show could go....I really can't see how it's going to be any good whatsoever
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Mar 20, 2017 22:28:36 GMT -5
Reigns essentially has turned.. he acts like a jerk and gets booed regularly. That would mean he's been a heel for almost three years. He's doing the same stuff he did with AJ last year, when everyone thought for sure they were turning him heel and they weren't. He's still in the babyface role with all his babyface spots. The Reigns turn has become as far fetched as the Cena turn. The only chance it has is Vince is so worried about his two main events being disasters (because neither Goldberg or Taker can work) that he goes with the shocking turn to save the show. Still, I think he'd rather sabotage Mania than give up on his golden goose. Oh, I agree with what you said in the first post. What I meant was that he has essentially turned (in terms of the fan reaction) but not in terms of the booking. He's essentially a guy that the fans hate, but WWE are trying to pigeon hole into a position that doesn't work. I can see why you don't think they'll turn him.. but WWE surely can see that Reigns' current role isn't sustainable. They're teetering on the edge - refusing to commit him to a full heel role but not having him act like a total baby.. and it just doesn't work.
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Post by Chip on Mar 20, 2017 22:31:37 GMT -5
Wrestlemania The Ultimate Thrill Ride is just going to be a show for people who know what Wrestlemania is from 33 years ago. They are going to spend the entire night talking about how amazing the product is, and remember all these guys from the past and how cool we are, and look at how we're trending, and we sell out everything.
And then the next night on RAW it's going to be how amazing the show was and how many "Wrestlemania moments" we got. Meanwhile I legitimately cannot remember a time when the product has been this bad.
And they have the BEST talent they have EVER had. It's unbelievable.
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Post by J12 on Mar 20, 2017 22:34:10 GMT -5
That would mean he's been a heel for almost three years. He's doing the same stuff he did with AJ last year, when everyone thought for sure they were turning him heel and they weren't. He's still in the babyface role with all his babyface spots. The Reigns turn has become as far fetched as the Cena turn. The only chance it has is Vince is so worried about his two main events being disasters (because neither Goldberg or Taker can work) that he goes with the shocking turn to save the show. Still, I think he'd rather sabotage Mania than give up on his golden goose. Oh, I agree with what you said in the first post. What I meant was that he has essentially turned (in terms of the fan reaction) but not in terms of the booking. He's essentially a guy that the fans hate, but WWE are trying to pigeon hole into a position that doesn't work. I can see why you don't think they'll turn him.. but WWE surely can see that Reigns' current role isn't sustainable. They're teetering on the edge - refusing to commit him to a full heel role but not having him act like a total baby.. and it just doesn't work. I think they think they're being smart by giving the people who hate him a kayfabe justification for their disdain (he wants to end The Undertaker), while also maintaining a clear path for those who like him to continue to cheer him. But you're right, it's not working. It's muddying the waters of his "hero" persona to the kids, and the ardent fans see it as another lame duck attempt to make him a badass babyface. It's just exacerbating an already bad situation.
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Post by Will on Mar 20, 2017 22:41:26 GMT -5
As someone who is flying to Orlando a week from Wednesday, these last two shows have crushed my spirits. Just have to keep reminding myself that it's all about the experience, and that it probably will still be better than last year. at least your experiencing undertakers entrance! that alone is enough for someone to go to mania
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Post by BCizzle on Mar 20, 2017 22:49:07 GMT -5
Wow - what a boring, predictable, tiresome show.
And with plenty of Hunter and Steph, too!
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Post by Will on Mar 20, 2017 22:54:18 GMT -5
can i remind you all that HHH called Cole a "journalist"
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