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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Mar 26, 2017 23:54:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 0:31:10 GMT -5
Normally I would laugh, but They might've definitely influenced it a bit.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Mar 27, 2017 0:38:22 GMT -5
TNA's women's division was a broken down, worn out, shell of itself by the time WWE started properly utilizing women.
So I would say it had 0 effect on what we're seeing today in the WWE.
Had it still been the way it was when Gail, King, Taylor Wilde, ODB, etc were killing it on a weekly basis then she might have a case....
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Post by Wardyz on Mar 27, 2017 0:41:15 GMT -5
Thought Gail was always misused by WWE
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Post by TurboEddie on Mar 27, 2017 3:25:03 GMT -5
WWE's women's revolution started because of the success of NXT's women's division.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Mar 27, 2017 3:45:03 GMT -5
HAHA, what?!
No, it started with a combination of events: AJ Lee publicly using facts to shame Stephanie McMahon when it came to equality (or lack thereof) in WWE, female wrestlers in NXT stealing the show on a regular basis, and then of course #GiveDivasAChance. TNA had NOTHING to do at all with WWE's decision to finally do what they should have done well over a decade ago.
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Post by sitruC on Mar 27, 2017 4:26:08 GMT -5
It didn't whatsoever
On an unrelated note Velvet Sky is so hot
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 27, 2017 4:57:44 GMT -5
To be fair for years the women's division in TNA was miles ahead of WWE.
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Post by IRS on Mar 27, 2017 5:40:53 GMT -5
It's hard to deny what the KOs accomplished in the mid-'00s. They were doing everything that WWE pretends that they're innovating now on a national basis - women in the main event, hardcore stips, etc. - except they didn't have Dixie Carter or Jarrett coming on TV every week to brag about how amazing they are for not treating the women like crap anymore, when nobody was forcing them to in the first place.
Even when the KOs fell off from the the height of their run, they would still typically manage to put on a handful of great matches each year. So, I do believe it may have had some influence on HHH wanting to pay more attention to the women when NXT began, even if not being directly responsible for it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 6:00:59 GMT -5
It's selective memory to even suggest TNA didn't play a huge part in the female revolution within wrestling.
WWE may blow their own trumpet for booking their women suitably for 2 years, but TNA were booking gripping and balanced womens feuds for over a decade.
As great as WWE womens division is now, the credibility of womens wrestling was earned by Velvet Sky, Gail Kim, Mickie James, Awesome Kong etc. It was those women that gave WWE fans a benchmark of comparison during the 'Diva' era.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Mar 27, 2017 6:49:15 GMT -5
"MY V*G!!!!!!" - TNA women's division
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Post by marino13 on Mar 27, 2017 7:07:24 GMT -5
TNA had a great Women's division going for a few years. But much like a lot of things in TNA, once it got hot, they dropped it. Could it have inspired Triple H to give Becky, Charlotte, Sasha, & Bayley the platform? Possibly. But I think their talent had a lot more to do with it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 7:21:24 GMT -5
TNA had a great Women's division going for a few years. But much like a lot of things in TNA, once it got hot, they dropped it. Could it have inspired Triple H to give Becky, Charlotte, Sasha, & Bayley the platform? Possibly. But I think their talent had a lot more to do with it. I strongly believe it inspired them to be given the platform in WWE, but I also think it's something WWE had to be patient with because of what you've said there: the talent. They did make some half hearted attempts to legitimise the divas division, I guess it was just harder when the majority of female talent was limited to barely pulling off a botch-free finisher-fest multi-tag match. So when the talent arrived and developed, they pulled the trigger. At the very least, the TNA KOs had to give them confidence that the female talent would let their ability do the talking as long as they booked them strongly. Because without sounding sexist, there was hardly any other grade of comparison for modern women's wrestling prior to the knockouts. |
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Post by Gone. on Mar 27, 2017 7:55:02 GMT -5
Keeping in mind that WWE immediately hired Gail and Kong after their feud in TNA.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Mar 27, 2017 7:58:42 GMT -5
About 3 years ago, the only thing TNA was doing RIGHT was the Knockouts Division. It was way better than what WWE was doing at the time.
WWE really stepped it up, but even now it's starting to get repetitive. How many times can we see Charlotte vs. Sasha, Charlotte vs. Bayley, and Alexa vs. Becky.....
The caliber of the matches has gone up, but every match seems almost the same. If you've seen one, you've seen them all. They need to increase the roster size so there are more options and potential matchups, not just turn the Women's Division into Sami Zayn vs. Kevin Owens having their 3958235th match.
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Post by Sizzle on Mar 27, 2017 9:01:54 GMT -5
"MY V*G!!!!!!" - TNA women's division Last year, though. Gail Kim definitely has a point as Impact was doing great in that sense a few years ago. It's not as impressive now but Rosemary is still awesome. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 27, 2017 9:32:22 GMT -5
They were first to really highlight the women. But like the X-Division and tag divisions (which were both great and made TNA stand out), they tossed it aside.
It wasn't years until WWE started pushing their women, so I don't think it had anything to do with TNA.
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Post by J12 on Mar 27, 2017 9:35:37 GMT -5
TNA did great things with the Knockouts for a period of time, but, as Kev mentioned, it fell off (just like everything they do), long before WWE even started treating women's wrestling seriously. By and large, people aren't paying attention to TNA, now, or then, and so it's extremely hard to claim they influenced anything to a significant degree.
WWE was far more likely influenced by a combination of the success of the women in NXT, and Ronda Rousey.
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Post by IRS on Mar 27, 2017 9:41:20 GMT -5
"MY V*G!!!!!!" - TNA women's division Last year, though. Gail Kim definitely has a point as Impact was doing great in that sense a few years ago. It's not as impressive now but Rosemary is still awesome. Within the last year, Rosemary and Jade have produced some damn good matches. Including a fairly brutal Monster's Ball. The KOs division at its worst is still miles ahead of where the Divas were for the majority of '08-'14. One horrific Shelley Martinez match doesn't negate that. |
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Mar 27, 2017 9:51:41 GMT -5
How is everybody remembering this wrong?
R-Truth was the reason for the Women's Revolution.
The Women's/Divas' Revolution was started by AJ Lee and Twitter's response to #GiveRTruthAChance, which brought about #GiveDivasAChance. TNA's division wasn't much better than WWE, and Gail Kim is lying to herself saying otherwise. They had a few more Women's wrestlers, but the division was still dominated primarily by glorified models.
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