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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on May 1, 2017 7:26:54 GMT -5
He made his first appearance on WWE main roster TV on April 4. WWE has announced that he will have his first main roster match at Backlash on May 21. Doesn't that seem like a hell of a lot of time between your debut and first match? I'm a big believer in striking while the iron is hot, especially if you're dealing with somebody from NXT who not all of your main roster audience is going to be fimiliar with.
I think they should have put Shinsuke and Miz in a match that night on April 4 (televised) and started having him show the fans who might not know about him exactly how good he is and what he can do.
Instead, this is going to be nothing but him coming out and just doing his entrance from now until Backlash. This is what they did with Adam Rose. He did the entrance every week and it took a long time, and then he either didn't even wrestle or his matches lasted 2 minutes. People get tired of the long entrance if you don't do a good match to back it up. He got 20 minutes in NXT, so it wasn't a problem, but 7 weeks is a long time to sit through that entrance every week for no match.
What do you guys think? Do you think they should have thrown him right into matches so he can start to impress and build up a track record with fans who don't know him, or do you think 7 weeks of not wrestling is a good idea?
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Post by ClashOfStyles on May 1, 2017 8:14:42 GMT -5
I actually like what they're doing with Shinsuke here. Yes, 7 weeks is a long time, but by making the fans wait, WWE is building up anticipation and fan interest for his debut, along with mystique and intrigue for Nakamura. 7 weeks is also plenty of time to build up an interesting and meaningful program with Dolph Ziggler for Backlash, which is much better and a lot more memorable than just debuting in a random match on SDL. This is good business for WWE too. Nakamura debuting at Backlash is a big incentive to buy the PPV or subscribe to the Network too. I think Nakamura/Ziggler has potential to be a show-stealer at Backlash, and the approach WWE is taking on his debut is 100% right imo.
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Post by Sizzle on May 1, 2017 8:30:23 GMT -5
Nakamura TV matches are usually not as good as his PPV matches from what I know. If he can have a high profile debut at Backlash, why have a throwaway match against the Miz on Smackdown?
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Post by Manning Of Steel on May 1, 2017 8:31:27 GMT -5
Quality > Quantity
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Post by bigshab421 on May 1, 2017 9:14:12 GMT -5
I'm thinking WWE is building up the anticipation and hoping that he and Ziggler tear the house down, which they should. Doing this will put more emphasis on his matches.
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Post by marino13 on May 1, 2017 9:17:43 GMT -5
Make people pay to see him. Plus it gives off the impression that he's an upper star already into his WWE run. There will be plenty of time to give away his matches on free TV.
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Post by punksnotdead on May 1, 2017 9:27:23 GMT -5
I think the smartest thing WWE can do is treat him like a special attraction. The video package for Backlash with him last night was awesome imo. However, his talking segment with Ziggler was painful, and it was his fault. He's still not very fluent and he had his mouth guard in on top of it. So either they're going to have to get him a manager or they need to treat him like the unicorn that he is, and they're obviously leaning unicorn right now.
The transition from Japan to the main roster is a hard one. The mass audience isn't going to love him just because he had good matches. Not to mention, he needs 15-20 minutes out there for you to even digest his matches. WWE needs to ECW the sh*t out of him and just protect him to the absolute best of their ability. Nakamura isn't Adam Rose. Rose was surface appeal and no substance but Nakamura has both. So making people wait for PPV to watch him work isn't going to hurt him because he'll deliver when the bell rings. Plus, he can get a bigger, grander, entrance if his in-ring debut is done this way.
Nakamura is a marathon, not a sprint. The faster we see him in the ring, the less special he becomes. When he stops being special, we start looking at new toys in NXT, like Roode and Galloway. There is just no reason to rush him imo.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 10:23:47 GMT -5
Until it comes to Lesnar then apparently that doesn't apply. |
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Post by bigshab421 on May 1, 2017 10:31:26 GMT -5
The true wrong approach is him doing promos with a mouthpiece in. Either it was a rib from the upper brass to make him sound goofier since his English is still iffy, or it was a very miscalculated move on his part.
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Post by hbkowns on May 1, 2017 10:54:30 GMT -5
I don't think he should talk that much, especially with his mouth guard on. I like that they're waiting til Backlash for him to wrestle. They're making him feel special, as opposed to throwing him out there for no reason. It would be similar to him vs Sami. His first match should be tearing the house down with Ziggler then you can do all the tv matches you want. But the first impression the casual audience should have is him being on ppv.
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Post by Manning Of Steel on May 1, 2017 10:55:31 GMT -5
Him speaking fluent English would be lame. The strong accent and funny dialect adds to the entire mystique of who he is. He doesn't need to be some polished WWE style promo cutter. That's not what got him to the game nor is it what will propel him to the top of the roster.
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Post by J12 on May 1, 2017 11:01:25 GMT -5
I think there are some issues with the way he's being presented, but not because he's not working matches right out of the gate.
I just think the segments with Dolph have come off really poorly. It doesn't help that Ziggler has been defined down as one of the biggest losers on the entire roster. Not getting The Miz feud like it appears he was originally supposed to has, from my perspective, really hurt Nakamura out of the gate. Dolph is damaged goods and him putting Nakamura over isn't going to be a big deal at all.
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Post by bababooey on May 1, 2017 11:22:03 GMT -5
I don't mind at all having Nakamura have his first match at Backlash. But I do feel like instead of having him come out and have weird segments about Michael Jackson they should just do vignettes. Maybe have him wrestle dark matches and house show matches if you want him to work things out with Ziggler. But don't televise him live until he makes his big "debut". Kinda like his NXT debut.
In this situation, WWE went for the post-Mania pop rather than looking at the big picture.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on May 1, 2017 11:40:43 GMT -5
Until it comes to Lesnar then apparently that doesn't apply. Only because of his gold mine salary. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on May 1, 2017 11:43:09 GMT -5
People forget that Raw and Smackdown PPV's are nothing. The way Nakamura is being handled could turn non NXT fans totally against him.
One of my friends who doesn't watch NXT thinks he's a joke and why stall him for a non special PPV if it could turn the fanbase against him?
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 1, 2017 12:01:32 GMT -5
I never cared for Nakamura so this doesn't bother me.
People can tell me how great of a wrestler, worker, entertainer and everything else that he is, and sure, that's cool. But I just am not a fan. But I could see people getting bored with him who aren't familiar with him. Or I could just see WWE screwing him up and it won't be long before Nakamura is dancing with Breezango in the ring after winning a six man tag over the Usos and Ziggler.
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Post by StylesP1 on May 1, 2017 12:06:34 GMT -5
He reminds me of Sin Cara, a bunch of hype of he's some amazing international superstar but him never really living up to it due to his lack of English.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 1, 2017 12:08:14 GMT -5
We've just compared Shinsuke Nakamura to Adam Rose.....This is an all time low for Wfigs
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 12:30:51 GMT -5
It's the first month of his main roster run. So far he is over as  . How about we give it some time before all the usual "WWE is misusing him"/"He's going to end up a dancing gimmick" bullsh** you people like to use for just about everyone? K? |
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Post by bababooey on May 1, 2017 12:32:40 GMT -5
He reminds me of Sin Cara, a bunch of hype of he's some amazing international superstar but him never really living up to it due to his lack of English. Nakamura can actually speak English pretty well. He has an accent but he can speak and understand. Sin Cara refused to learn English because he didn't like the language. Also, Nakamura was in NXT for a year so he's already proven that he can work with WWE style wrestlers and work in their system. It's gonna be a matter of how he's booked. This Michael Jackson/Prince stuff is a step in the wrong direction. Their influence has always been apparent in his presentation, but leave it to WWE to not know how to play it cool and they have to be like "Look! He's like Michael Jackson and Prince! You liked them right? Like him too!" |
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