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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 19, 2017 15:52:07 GMT -5
I think WWE as a whole would GREATLY benefit from less matches on Smackdown and RAW and more backstage or pre-recorded promos or post squash match promos to get their characters across. Watching the same guys fight each other in tag matches before the PPV does nothing for anyone. Totally agreed. The audience is completely desensitized to good matches. We see them weekly, usually multiple times a week, to the point where we take them for granted. My problem is that I don't care about who wins and loses those matches. That's WWE's biggest weakness imo. Raw probably has no way to avoid it because they have the third hour, but Smackdown with two hours largely has no excuse. Promos, segments, character building, that way when we see Ambrose vs Miz part 1004, we care who wins. I use them as an example because I think they've done a good job making an old feud feel exciting lately on Raw with those two. I don't think Raw has much of an excuse, either. It's harder to not overuse filler matches on that show, but it shouldn't be impossible. I'm not sure why WWE switched to just doing an overload of pointless, doesn't-matter-who-wins, workrate-for-the-sake-of-it matches between the top guys. It may be that they deemed that to be the forte of the current generation of wrestlers. It may be that Vince never agrees on a script and they end up having to fill time with matches. It may be that their expansion into more territories means they produce more matches as more match time means fewer language barrier problems on foreign networks. But whatever the reason, they make it damn hard to care about any result. Nothing gets much genuine reaction from us anymore outside of nostalgia acts, or a world title feud between an "overpushed" guy hated on the Internet vs a "buried" guy loved on the Internet. Since 2011, that's what they've been relying on. I'm not the biggest Finn Balor fan, but I was excited for his return. Even thought/hoped he might come to stare down Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania after Brock won the title. Instead, Finn's return was on Raw, and instead of being anything cool it was just him wrestling in the same Seth Rollins and partner vs Kevin Owens and partner filler tag match that we'd been seeing most Mondays since about two weeks after SummerSlam. That stuff turns everyone into just another guy on the roster. It's no coincidence that the wrestlers who come across as the biggest stars are the ones who don't have 20 minute matches on TV every week.
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Post by T R W on May 19, 2017 16:07:42 GMT -5
Totally agreed. The audience is completely desensitized to good matches. We see them weekly, usually multiple times a week, to the point where we take them for granted. My problem is that I don't care about who wins and loses those matches. That's WWE's biggest weakness imo. Raw probably has no way to avoid it because they have the third hour, but Smackdown with two hours largely has no excuse. Promos, segments, character building, that way when we see Ambrose vs Miz part 1004, we care who wins. I use them as an example because I think they've done a good job making an old feud feel exciting lately on Raw with those two. I don't think Raw has much of an excuse, either. It's harder to not overuse filler matches on that show, but it shouldn't be impossible. I'm not sure why WWE switched to just doing an overload of pointless, doesn't-matter-who-wins, workrate-for-the-sake-of-it matches between the top guys. It may be that they deemed that to be the forte of the current generation of wrestlers. It may be that Vince never agrees on a script and they end up having to fill time with matches. It may be that their expansion into more territories means they produce more matches as more match time means fewer language barrier problems on foreign networks. But whatever the reason, they make it damn hard to care about any result. Nothing gets much genuine reaction from us anymore outside of nostalgia acts, or a world title feud between an "overpushed" guy hated on the Internet vs a "buried" guy loved on the Internet. Since 2011, that's what they've been relying on. I'm not the biggest Finn Balor fan, but I was excited for his return. Even thought/hoped he might come to stare down Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania after Brock won the title. Instead, Finn's return was on Raw, and instead of being anything cool it was just him wrestling in the same Seth Rollins and partner vs Kevin Owens and partner filler tag match that we'd been seeing most Mondays since about two weeks after SummerSlam. That stuff turns everyone into just another guy on the roster. It's no coincidence that the wrestlers who come across as the biggest stars are the ones who don't have 20 minute matches on TV every week. In my opinion it really is the biggest problem the WWE has right now, and part of why they have trouble building top guys. I know some people think it's a step back, but they desperately need to find a way to make matches special again.
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Post by RybackV1 on May 19, 2017 17:00:33 GMT -5
I guess I didn't explain the comparison well enough
Austins career was eh before that promo. It helped change his career path entirely. I'm not saying Rowan came out and cut one of the greatest promos of all time. Or that he is now going to become one of the best ever. All I'm saying that could've been the turning point in his career. Watch the full thing on the network please and not just the YT clip I posted.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 17:03:06 GMT -5
THIS is the make or break for Rowan in his WWE career.
If this doesn't get him some kind of push they may as well just release him.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 17:13:18 GMT -5
I prefer him as part of The Wyatt Family, but concede this showing has at least started making him look a bit more dimensional.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on May 19, 2017 17:46:56 GMT -5
They should just give him a rain man gimmick. Where he is really smart but socially inept and awkward. Have someone like Dolph or Owens use him to make money, find loopholes in contracts, win matches. Seeing him re-enact the casino scene from Rain Man would be gold. I think they should give him a Reign Man gimmick. Where he walks around thinking he's Shawn Kemp and wears a Super Sonics jersey.
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