Y2J says original WM plans had winning Universal Title.

I understand nostalgia can be fun, but Goldberg/Lesnar did not need the Universal title at all. Once Goldberg defeated Owens, it jumped the shark.

I thought it was fine how they did it. The only thing I didn't like was flip flopping the US Title between Owens and Jericho for no reason other than to get Jericho on Smackdown. Which could have happened without the title change.

Brock vs Goldberg was entertaining. It stuck to a KISS plan and worked within the limitations of both guys. There is something to be said for short and sweet imo.

They wanted the title on Brock. So it was better to get the big draw match and let wrestling fans get real closure on Jericho vs Owens. Brock would have just trucked Jericho and everyone would have complained.

Brock vs Goldberg had big fight feel that Owens vs Jericho didn't have. And the universal championship is now prestigious, not sure I'd be saying that if the only holders were Finn, Owens and Jericho.

See this is vintage WWE. Instead of waiting to SummerSlam or Survivor Series they decide it would be a good idea to give him a year long title reign that has done nothing for himself or a title that's already flopping.

Jericho and Owens would've been so much better.

Showing up on Raw every week does not make something prestigious. If it did, then Apollo Crews and Luke Gallows would be bigger stars than Undertaker and Brock Lesnar.

proper wrestling storytelling and drama would give us two best friends go through a year of trials and triumphs, along with speed bumps...only to have one eventually turn his back to the other in cold blooded uncaring fashion, all the while holding the "universal prize" right in front of his face saying "hahaha you'll never be this good, like i always knew"

only to have that defeated hero, see the error of his somewhat evil,shortsighted ways and extract the ultimate revenge by taking his former best friend's prized possession in the biggest event of the previous calendar year.

that man getting to hold the top spot for a short time is bittersweet and WELL DESERVED for his efforts. Not to mention something the audience actually wanted to see.

even if the end game is that the other guy who's possession was taken, reclaims his throne while sending the 2nd half packing on his band tour....thus reclaiming his top spot in the "universe" ready to take on the next challenger....who was a Demon that never really lost that universal prize in the first place, it was taken from him.


THAT kind of thing is what sells tickets, generates television ratings, and avoids catcalls and utter silence at live events. That's what actually gets people to care about wrestling and not just who's coming back for a night that we haven't seen in years.

But instead we got a 50 year old returning veteran winning matches in essentially less than 2 minutes, and a former UFC champion who only shows up once in awhile to hit some suplexes, battling for a title that the eventual winner doesn't even care enough about to defend....because the company doesn't care enough.

They HAVE THE ABILITY to make things interesting, but they choose not to because "big name draw from the past"....

I like that Goldberg and Brock had the title you need 2 legit beasts that are over to hold the title

Owens dropping the belt killed the heat in that feud imo. Brock/Goldberg probably didn't need the title. I kinda get why they did it though, and I actually liked the match at Wrestlemania. Just not sure Jericho/Owens needed to be sacrificed for it.

Jericho vs, Shinsuke would have been awesome and the Universal Title definitely should have been on the line between Owens and Jericho.

Dropping it to Brock I don't get though.
Brock right now I am not excited to see fight anyone and that makes the Universal Title dreadfully uninteresting to me.

I would have liked to see him take a break after Mania while they came up with an interesting next big match for the Beast.


However I'd also like world peace and a few million dollars...so you just kind of pay attention and hope things get better like most wrestling fans.