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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Jun 12, 2017 15:19:43 GMT -5
The painted wristbands don't really bother me as much as items that should be raised or sculpted, Reign's new gauntlets still being painted on and guys like AJ and Sting not having wrist cuffs when they obviously have the mold. Little things like that make a figure look much better.
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Post by poindizzle on Jun 12, 2017 18:14:17 GMT -5
The painted wristbands don't really bother me as much as items that should be raised or sculpted, Reign's new gauntlets still being painted on and guys like AJ and Sting not having wrist cuffs when they obviously have the mold. Little things like that make a figure look much better. I was right there with you and railed against the lack of wrist gauntlets on Roman Reigns. But then one day it occurred to me (and it probably should have sooner) that the wrist gauntlet is a separate piece, that it is no different than elbow pads which they sometimes skip because budget strain. I don't like it but at least it makes more sense in my mind now. Also, something to the overall topic I hadn't considered, I'm assuming each time they have to switch molds out that the budget goes up. What if three figures in the wave all have the same base arm but different tape? If they run 30,000 units of each figure, they can make 90,000 arms and just paint them different or they can run 30,000 each with uniquely sculpted tape/ bands and incur more cost. This is one of many things I think people aren't taking into consideration.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Jun 12, 2017 19:01:29 GMT -5
The painted wristbands don't really bother me as much as items that should be raised or sculpted, Reign's new gauntlets still being painted on and guys like AJ and Sting not having wrist cuffs when they obviously have the mold. Little things like that make a figure look much better. I was right there with you and railed against the lack of wrist gauntlets on Roman Reigns. But then one day it occurred to me (and it probably should have sooner) that the wrist gauntlet is a separate piece, that it is no different than elbow pads which they sometimes skip because budget strain. I don't like it but at least it makes more sense in my mind now. Also, something to the overall topic I hadn't considered, I'm assuming each time they have to switch molds out that the budget goes up. What if three figures in the wave all have the same base arm but different tape? If they run 30,000 units of each figure, they can make 90,000 arms and just paint them different or they can run 30,000 each with uniquely sculpted tape/ bands and incur more cost. This is one of many things I think people aren't taking into consideration. I agree with you on the individual arms... However, I don't think the gauntlets wouldn't be that bad considering Reign's attire consists of mostly black. It just irks me that they used to paint the gauntlets, then sculpt them as removable and then go back to painted. It's like a step back. I get budget costs, but some things just don't add up at times. One great example, the ringside exclusive Kane had Kane written on his glove. Why???
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Post by poindizzle on Jun 12, 2017 19:12:01 GMT -5
I was right there with you and railed against the lack of wrist gauntlets on Roman Reigns. But then one day it occurred to me (and it probably should have sooner) that the wrist gauntlet is a separate piece, that it is no different than elbow pads which they sometimes skip because budget strain. I don't like it but at least it makes more sense in my mind now. Also, something to the overall topic I hadn't considered, I'm assuming each time they have to switch molds out that the budget goes up. What if three figures in the wave all have the same base arm but different tape? If they run 30,000 units of each figure, they can make 90,000 arms and just paint them different or they can run 30,000 each with uniquely sculpted tape/ bands and incur more cost. This is one of many things I think people aren't taking into consideration. I agree with you on the individual arms... However, I don't think the gauntlets wouldn't be that bad considering Reign's attire consists of mostly black. It just irks me that they used to paint the gauntlets, then sculpt them as removable and then go back to painted. It's like a step back. I get budget costs, but some things just don't add up at times. One great example, the ringside exclusive Kane had Kane written on his glove. Why??? If I remember correctly, they used the glove that was sold as a replica on WWE shop for their reference and it said Kane. They tend to go slavishly off promo shots. Recently with Apollo Crews, he had a promo shot with no wrist tape and they used that for his first basic even though in ring he wears an unholy amount.
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Post by kgchampion on Jun 12, 2017 20:49:58 GMT -5
When you wear wrist tape, it's flat against the skin. Is it smooth? No. but it's not raised, either. So why make the mold? Unless someone were to tape their hands up a heavy amount, you're not going to have much height distance between the surface of the arm and the surface of the tape.
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Post by Dylan ❤️s Wrestling on Jun 13, 2017 2:42:02 GMT -5
It's like PJ said, it isn't cost effective to constantly make new wrist bands for people with different length tape. The examples you used were companies that made figures with less articulation and usually sculpted from scratch. The cost of articulation and still being able to be diverse with body styles is that the figures have to be modular. I'd guess close to 90% of the molds are completely compatible and swappable. Even Earthquake's arms can fit Big E's body, we're just not saying that looks good, Rhyno... Jakks had molded tape but then made figures where they were the wrong size or even unpainted. I'll be nice and say we're "discerning" now and not just nit-pickers, but if someone had the wrong amount of wrist tape now there would be ten threads on the main page calling for Bill's head. Toybiz didn't have less articulation, they had more. I wouldn't be calling for anyone's head but I think if people want more from a company, their consumers, especially on a forum about wrestling figures, that's to be expected. I like discussions about too much or too little wrist tape, you buy a toy because you love that character and want to have the best version of them possible and hope that the next time they make that character it is the version of them you've been waiting for. There's "trolling" and "nit-picking" and there's being an excited, passionate collector/fan. Sadly there's so many of the first kind, the second can get thrown under the bus with them. Back to topic, I haven't seen much discussion about the lack of t-shirt sleeves. I really thought the new Tough Talkers would have benefitted from them. I look at the arms on the Cena and it looks kind of tacky to me but he would have been one of my favourites of the set if it'd had sculpted sleeves and wristbands.
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Post by poindizzle on Jun 13, 2017 6:59:35 GMT -5
It's like PJ said, it isn't cost effective to constantly make new wrist bands for people with different length tape. The examples you used were companies that made figures with less articulation and usually sculpted from scratch. The cost of articulation and still being able to be diverse with body styles is that the figures have to be modular. I'd guess close to 90% of the molds are completely compatible and swappable. Even Earthquake's arms can fit Big E's body, we're just not saying that looks good, Rhyno... Jakks had molded tape but then made figures where they were the wrong size or even unpainted. I'll be nice and say we're "discerning" now and not just nit-pickers, but if someone had the wrong amount of wrist tape now there would be ten threads on the main page calling for Bill's head. Toybiz didn't have less articulation, they had more. I wouldn't be calling for anyone's head but I think if people want more from a company, their consumers, especially on a forum about wrestling figures, that's to be expected. I like discussions about too much or too little wrist tape, you buy a toy because you love that character and want to have the best version of them possible and hope that the next time they make that character it is the version of them you've been waiting for. There's "trolling" and "nit-picking" and there's being an excited, passionate collector/fan. Sadly there's so many of the first kind, the second can get thrown under the bus with them. Back to topic, I haven't seen much discussion about the lack of t-shirt sleeves. I really thought the new Tough Talkers would have benefitted from them. I look at the arms on the Cena and it looks kind of tacky to me but he would have been one of my favourites of the set if it'd had sculpted sleeves and wristbands. Toybiz wasn't as prolific either though. Mattel has made these things modular to pump them out, for better or worse. The number of releases has to be closing in fast on Jakks Ruthless style figures by now. Mattel has beaten Toybiz in overall number of unique torso molds which I will take as the biggest victory of all. Next to scans, the torsos are my next most important thing. I'm more prone to nitpick bad torso selection than anything else, like when Sid got the Triple H torso rather than the Kane one. I wasn't saying you were a nitpicker either, I was just saying in general that some people have lost their minds on here like the guy who said the rips on Brutus Beefcake's tights were too small to be accurate despite that figure being one of the most beautiful things Mattel has ever made. That's nitpicking. Saying "I wish so and so had their elbow pad" or "why do they keep leaving off Roman Reigns' gauntlet" isn't nitpicking, IMO.
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Post by cornman25 on Jun 13, 2017 8:50:24 GMT -5
Maybe they can make Cena some molded wristbands, like how they make those glove cuffs
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 9:01:44 GMT -5
Accuracy sticklers only care when it involves something that bothers them.
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Post by Triple S on Jun 13, 2017 10:18:24 GMT -5
Are we really that concerned with molded wrist tape? Jesus.
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Post by n2jib on Jun 13, 2017 11:53:39 GMT -5
Never bothered about them being painted.
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