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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 28, 2017 19:38:46 GMT -5
I think we might see Slaughter (and Mustafa) one day but I dont think we'll get the jackets and/or flags representing Iraq though. I feel like that might be something that Mattel tries to avoid.
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Post by Plastic Cowboy on Jun 28, 2017 19:48:48 GMT -5
Yes of course they show it on DVDs, but when they talk about him they never mention him being a bad guy either in the early 80s nor his WWF Title run.
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on Jun 29, 2017 5:33:17 GMT -5
One day, they will make Iraqi Sympathizer Slaughter. But as a basic, which will piss off the elists.
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Post by erikg on Jun 29, 2017 8:21:40 GMT -5
I am sure this has been discussed, but I know somebody can give me the answer. Maybe its either politically incorrect or they just havent gotten around to it yet.
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Post by erikg on Jun 29, 2017 8:24:47 GMT -5
It's got to be hard for Mattel. They prolly want to do obscure 80s guys, but they already know that sales are terrible at mass retail. Then why not do it as a ringside exclusive. They do big names like Sting and Nash and Jericho for those but forgotten midcarders like Typhoon in the main elite line. It makes no sense.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jun 29, 2017 8:41:37 GMT -5
Yes of course they show it on DVDs, but when they talk about him they never mention him being a bad guy either in the early 80s nor his WWF Title run. How often do they talk about Sgt Slaughter? He was at MITB, do you really expect them to shoehorn in that he was once an Iraqi sympathizer when introducing him as one of the St Louis greats?
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jun 29, 2017 10:09:45 GMT -5
Yes of course they show it on DVDs, but when they talk about him they never mention him being a bad guy either in the early 80s nor his WWF Title run. How often do they talk about Sgt Slaughter? He was at MITB, do you really expect them to shoehorn in that he was once an Iraqi sympathizer when introducing him as one of the St Louis greats? "That'll really get him cheered, telling them about that time he wanted American soldiers to die. While we're at it, let's talk about Triple H humping a corpse tomorrow on Raw"
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Post by Shane O. on Jun 29, 2017 10:50:15 GMT -5
I'd get it if Mattel decided to release that version of Sarge, however its no bother to me if we never see it.
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Post by The Madness on Jun 29, 2017 15:00:30 GMT -5
I definitely want a Slaughter in khaki pants, Iraqi headdress, curly toe boots, and a purple strap Winged Eagle belt.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 30, 2017 12:14:59 GMT -5
It's got to be hard for Mattel. They prolly want to do obscure 80s guys, but they already know that sales are terrible at mass retail. Funny that you say that, yet most of the Defining Moments, which fetch the highest price for a figure, are mostly 80's wrestlers. So based on that I would think Mattel's feelings about 80s characters do not mirror yours.
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Jun 30, 2017 16:40:59 GMT -5
It's got to be hard for Mattel. They prolly want to do obscure 80s guys, but they already know that sales are terrible at mass retail. Funny that you say that, yet most of the Defining Moments, which fetch the highest price for a figure, are mostly 80's wrestlers. So based on that I would think Mattel's feelings about 80s characters do not mirror yours. I can bold the things I want to read too.... All I'm saying is that the most iconic Sarge has been released. The 18-34 target demographic is edging into earlier 90's and the HOF is still alive, but for how long. Bill, someone who had nothing to do with distribution, had no choice but to request our area store pics. I cannot believe he would do it unless it was hurting Mattel's bottom line, because he had stated prior that he can't control distribution. Oddly, after getting store pics, Wal-Mart had a massive recall on elites. The argument about Defining Moments is flawed considering it spans several eras and it relies on name-recognition alone. Listen, my argument is flawed too. Recent wrestlers have warmed shelves; Bo Dallas and Adam Rose. Bill is doing what he can, but I think an Iraqi Sarge is near the bottom of the list. I didn't mean to offend so many with a generalized statement. If Mattel can make a bunny or last years SDCC exclusive, then anything is possible, even a Simon Dean.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 30, 2017 17:49:32 GMT -5
Funny that you say that, yet most of the Defining Moments, which fetch the highest price for a figure, are mostly 80's wrestlers. So based on that I would think Mattel's feelings about 80s characters do not mirror yours. I can bold the things I want to read too.... All I'm saying is that the most iconic Sarge has been released. The 18-34 target demographic is edging into earlier 90's and the HOF is still alive, but for how long. Bill, someone who had nothing to do with distribution, had no choice but to request our area store pics. I cannot believe he would do it unless it was hurting Mattel's bottom line, because he had stated prior that he can't control distribution. Oddly, after getting store pics, Wal-Mart had a massive recall on elites. The argument about Defining Moments is flawed considering it spans several eras and it relies on name-recognition alone. Listen, my argument is flawed too. Recent wrestlers have warmed shelves; Bo Dallas and Adam Rose. Bill is doing what he can, but I think an Iraqi Sarge is near the bottom of the list. I didn't mean to offend so many with a generalized statement. If Mattel can make a bunny or last years SDCC exclusive, then anything is possible, even a Simon Dean. Iraqi Sarge IS early 90's.
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Jun 30, 2017 17:56:30 GMT -5
I can bold the things I want to read too.... All I'm saying is that the most iconic Sarge has been released. The 18-34 target demographic is edging into earlier 90's and the HOF is still alive, but for how long. Bill, someone who had nothing to do with distribution, had no choice but to request our area store pics. I cannot believe he would do it unless it was hurting Mattel's bottom line, because he had stated prior that he can't control distribution. Oddly, after getting store pics, Wal-Mart had a massive recall on elites. The argument about Defining Moments is flawed considering it spans several eras and it relies on name-recognition alone. Listen, my argument is flawed too. Recent wrestlers have warmed shelves; Bo Dallas and Adam Rose. Bill is doing what he can, but I think an Iraqi Sarge is near the bottom of the list. I didn't mean to offend so many with a generalized statement. If Mattel can make a bunny or last years SDCC exclusive, then anything is possible, even a Simon Dean. Iraqi Sarge IS early 90's. There you go. He's so obscure the average fan doesn't care to remember the tail end of Sarge's in ring career.
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Post by PJ on Jun 30, 2017 18:06:07 GMT -5
Funny that you say that, yet most of the Defining Moments, which fetch the highest price for a figure, are mostly 80's wrestlers. So based on that I would think Mattel's feelings about 80s characters do not mirror yours. I can bold the things I want to read too.... All I'm saying is that the most iconic Sarge has been released. The 18-34 target demographic is edging into earlier 90's and the HOF is still alive, but for how long. Bill, someone who had nothing to do with distribution, had no choice but to request our area store pics. I cannot believe he would do it unless it was hurting Mattel's bottom line, because he had stated prior that he can't control distribution. Oddly, after getting store pics, Wal-Mart had a massive recall on elites. The argument about Defining Moments is flawed considering it spans several eras and it relies on name-recognition alone. Listen, my argument is flawed too. Recent wrestlers have warmed shelves; Bo Dallas and Adam Rose. Bill is doing what he can, but I think an Iraqi Sarge is near the bottom of the list. I didn't mean to offend so many with a generalized statement. If Mattel can make a bunny or last years SDCC exclusive, then anything is possible, even a Simon Dean. They did!? My area WalMarts must have missed that because they still have the same pegwarmers they always had...Plus new one.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 30, 2017 18:07:57 GMT -5
Iraqi Sarge IS early 90's. There you go. He's so obscure the average fan doesn't care to remember the tail end of Sarge's in ring career. Tail end? He still wrestled after the Iraqi stuff. And then he was the Comish for a while. Im prob older than you but his career was not obscure to me. Obscure to me is all of the current stuff. The guys today are wwe only. Where as the Sarge was such a personality that he was in multiple major wrestling and other media. As a kid in the 80s I could see Sarge in WWF wrestling or I can see him in GI Joe. It was awesome. It might be obscure to you because you're younger but Sarge was more popular than any current wwe personality.
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Jun 30, 2017 18:12:33 GMT -5
They did!? My area WalMarts must have missed that because they still have the same pegwarmers they always had...Plus new one. I have 5 Wal-Mart stores around me. All stores had all elites disappear. I inquired about it at 2 of the stores and both toy area reps had stated they were "recalled". Neither gave me anymore info than that. My stores were plagued with E39 and lower (some figures as early as E24). Now we have E46 and E47.5 in my area... not much of an improvement for me... been relying on RSC and the Zon to keep my collection current.
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Post by PJ on Jun 30, 2017 18:17:44 GMT -5
They did!? My area WalMarts must have missed that because they still have the same pegwarmers they always had...Plus new one. I have 5 Wal-Mart stores around me. All stores had all elites disappear. I inquired about it at 2 of the stores and both toy area reps had stated they were "recalled". Neither gave me anymore info than that. My stores were plagued with E39 and lower (some figures as early as E24). Now we have E46 and E47.5 in my area... not much of an improvement for me... been relying on RSC and the Zon to keep my collection current. I have 3 I go to regularly and one down in NJ my wife hits weekly on her way home from her NJ office. And they still have the same pegwarmers in my pics that I posted in that thread plus some new pegwarmers. And the one in NJ she always mentions Sid and the WM HBK when she is telling me what they have. But all minus the NJ store have gotten everything up to E50. I saw E50 at the Monroe NY store last week and this morning hey had another case as everything doubled. And I still passed on Stephanie as the new one also had paint flaws. I have seen at least 10 of her now locally between WalMart, TRU and Target and have yet to find one that didn't have blotchy paint applications on her painted skin parts.
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Jun 30, 2017 18:28:22 GMT -5
There you go. He's so obscure the average fan doesn't care to remember the tail end of Sarge's in ring career. Tail end? He still wrestled after the Iraqi stuff. And then he was the Comish for a while. Im prob older than you but his career was not obscure to me. Obscure to me is all of the current stuff. The guys today are wwe only. Where as the Sarge was such a personality that he was in multiple major wrestling and other media. As a kid in the 80s I could see Sarge in WWF wrestling or I can see him in GI Joe. It was awesome. It might be obscure to you because you're younger but Sarge was more popular than any current wwe personality. Segre, in general, is not obscure. My most memorable time of him was when has was the commissioner, but I wouldn't want a commissioner Sarge figure. I have the HOF figure and to me, that is the most recognizable Sarge there is. All I was saying it would be a tough sell at retail. However, I'm not the kind of collector that wants a fleshed out collection. I cut my grit during the new generation, but I didn't care for Psycho Sid and IRS. I liked British Bulldog (Legends series 3), but British Bulldog (elite 39) was "meh" to me. I think Iraqi Sarge is a waste of an elite spot, but if Mattel ever decides to make it, resurrect this thread with all sorts of tomfoolery directed towards me. I'll deserve it for being so naive.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 30, 2017 18:30:47 GMT -5
Tail end? He still wrestled after the Iraqi stuff. And then he was the Comish for a while. Im prob older than you but his career was not obscure to me. Obscure to me is all of the current stuff. The guys today are wwe only. Where as the Sarge was such a personality that he was in multiple major wrestling and other media. As a kid in the 80s I could see Sarge in WWF wrestling or I can see him in GI Joe. It was awesome. It might be obscure to you because you're younger but Sarge was more popular than any current wwe personality. Segre, in general, is not obscure. My most memorable time of him was when has was the commissioner, but I wouldn't want a commissioner Sarge figure. I have the HOF figure and to me, that is the most recognizable Sarge there is. All I was saying it would be a tough sell at retail. However, I'm not the kind of collector that wants a fleshed out collection. I cut my grit during the new generation, but I didn't care for Psycho Sid and IRS. I liked British Bulldog (Legends series 3), but British Bulldog (elite 39) was "meh" to me. I think Iraqi Sarge is a waste of an elite spot, but if Mattel ever decides to make it, resurrect this thread with all sorts of tomfoolery directed towards me. I'll deserve it for being so naive. Deal!
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Post by JC Motors on Jul 1, 2017 9:38:07 GMT -5
It was a controversial gimmick
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