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Post by THEPERFECTFIGURECOLLECTION on Jul 10, 2017 9:44:41 GMT -5
I really love the belts since I began collecting again. But I was thinking as Vince purchased almost every promotion there was why can't they just release Belt packs. Such as an AWA, NWA, WCCW, etc. I honestly think it would sell just as much as the figures if not more
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Jul 10, 2017 9:48:53 GMT -5
I believe it has something to do with Uncle Vince owning only the tape library, and not owning the designs to the Championship Title Belts.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 10, 2017 9:48:55 GMT -5
I just want wcw belts
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 10, 2017 9:53:39 GMT -5
He only owns the video libraries and their trademarks. Most belts are copyrighted by the belt designer. Mattel would need to get permission from the designer and pay them royalties to use it which they have stated on numerous occasions they are not willing to do. That is why we have only gotten belts used in WWE/F.
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Post by THEPERFECTFIGURECOLLECTION on Jul 10, 2017 11:15:55 GMT -5
He only owns the video libraries and their trademarks. Most belts are copyrighted by the belt designer. Mattel would need to get permission from the designer and pay them royalties to use it which they have stated on numerous occasions they are not willing to do. That is why we have only gotten belts used in WWE/F. Ya I suppose that makes sense, even the wcw belt that Vader, sting and Ron Simmons had between that transition period would be cool. Just sucks cuz those belts would be very cool. Get some Georgia championship wrestling, Florida championship wrestling belts haha. Dreams... |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 10, 2017 11:19:54 GMT -5
He only owns the video libraries and their trademarks. Most belts are copyrighted by the belt designer. Mattel would need to get permission from the designer and pay them royalties to use it which they have stated on numerous occasions they are not willing to do. That is why we have only gotten belts used in WWE/F. Ya I suppose that makes sense, even the wcw belt that Vader, sting and Ron Simmons had between that transition period would be cool. Just sucks cuz those belts would be very cool. Get some Georgia championship wrestling, Florida championship wrestling belts haha. Dreams... Even the Big Gold Belt has the WWE logo on it. They won't make the WCW BGB. |
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jul 10, 2017 11:29:23 GMT -5
How about the ones they could make but havnt?
WWECW silver, lightheavyweight, the silver Hogan belt, the green Sheik belt, or get us some lesser released ones like Hardcore or old Raw/Smackdown belts.
Still waiting on Raw Womens with a Charlotte or Sasha. Its been like 15 months.
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Post by THEPERFECTFIGURECOLLECTION on Jul 10, 2017 11:39:48 GMT -5
How about the ones they could make but havnt? WWECW silver, lightheavyweight, the silver Hogan belt, the green Sheik belt, or get us some lesser released ones like Hardcore or old Raw/Smackdown belts. Still waiting on Raw Womens with a Charlotte or Sasha. Its been like 15 months. Ya I'm fine with those other than the women, I'm all set with women's titles haha. Who made the belts Reggie parks haha, get him on the phone mattel |
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Post by Classic Collector: The Return on Jul 10, 2017 15:39:29 GMT -5
Vince doesn't even own the WCCW trademark - it's owned by the Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame (PWHF) in Witchita Falls Texas. Talked with the person who runs the place (Cowboy Johnny Mantell) and he told me his lawyers have sent a cease & desist letter to WWE. So you won't be seeing any "official" WCCW belts. But truthfully, most belts are pretty generic back in the day and something similiar could easily be made that's passible.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jul 10, 2017 15:49:06 GMT -5
Vince doesn't even own the WCCW trademark - it's owned by the Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame (PWHF) in Witchita Falls Texas. Talked with the person who runs the place (Cowboy Johnny Mantell) and he told me his lawyers have sent a cease & desist letter to WWE. So you won't be seeing any "official" WCCW belts. But truthfully, most belts are pretty generic back in the day and something similiar could easily be made that's passible. The trademarks were only cleared up this year and they may own the name but Vince has the tape library and that's what matters in the end |
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Post by bigjohnnybadd on Jul 10, 2017 15:53:14 GMT -5
Never understood why they are willing to do it for the video games, as they have had all the WCW and ECW belts for several years now, but not for figures. I understand it would be two different companies and would be two different deals between 2K and Mattel, but if they are willing to work out licensing for the games, they can do so to make figure accessories. At least for WCW and ECW.
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Post by Classic Collector: The Return on Jul 10, 2017 21:05:26 GMT -5
Vince doesn't even own the WCCW trademark - it's owned by the Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame (PWHF) in Witchita Falls Texas. Talked with the person who runs the place (Cowboy Johnny Mantell) and he told me his lawyers have sent a cease & desist letter to WWE. So you won't be seeing any "official" WCCW belts. But truthfully, most belts are pretty generic back in the day and something similiar could easily be made that's passible. The trademarks were only cleared up this year and they may own the name but Vince has the tape library and that's what matters in the end Why are the tapes the only thing that matters? This guy is wanting belts with WCCW written on them - owning the tape library would have nothing to do with that. Owning the WCCW name and Logo would. And just for your information it just got cleared up the week before last. Me personally, I can't wait to purchase a WCCW logo t-shirt from them. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 10, 2017 22:22:54 GMT -5
The trademarks were only cleared up this year and they may own the name but Vince has the tape library and that's what matters in the end Why are the tapes the only thing that matters? This guy is wanting belts with WCCW written on them - owning the tape library would have nothing to do with that. Owning the WCCW name and Logo would. And just for your information it just got cleared up the week before last. Me personally, I can't wait to purchase a WCCW logo t-shirt from them. Vince owned the WCCW name and logos and let it expire. If it was any value to him he would've renewed. The library is all he cares about. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 10, 2017 22:31:14 GMT -5
Never understood why they are willing to do it for the video games, as they have had all the WCW and ECW belts for several years now, but not for figures. I understand it would be two different companies and would be two different deals between 2K and Mattel, but if they are willing to work out licensing for the games, they can do so to make figure accessories. At least for WCW and ECW. It's not the belt designer who isn't willing to work with Mattel, it's Mattel not willing to pay the designer. It extra cost they are not willing to spend. THQ before and now 2K games have a budget that allows them to sign talent not under a WWE contract and acquire logos and belts not owned by WWE. Also, I would think that it's cheaper to license the belts for a digital representation in a video game vs acquiring it to mass produce a mini replica for action figures. |
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Post by winxclubflora on Jul 10, 2017 22:34:35 GMT -5
I just want an ECW World TV title. Probably never going to get it, though.  |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 10, 2017 22:42:24 GMT -5
I just want an ECW World TV title. Probably never going to get it, though. My ECW TV belt fix up  |
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Post by Classic Collector: The Return on Jul 10, 2017 22:50:49 GMT -5
Why are the tapes the only thing that matters? This guy is wanting belts with WCCW written on them - owning the tape library would have nothing to do with that. Owning the WCCW name and Logo would. And just for your information it just got cleared up the week before last. Me personally, I can't wait to purchase a WCCW logo t-shirt from them. Vince owned the WCCW name and logos and let it expire. If it was any value to him he would've renewed. The library is all he cares about. Where are you getting this from, cause the person I talked with (the person who currently owns the name and is president of the PWHF) told me straight out Vince never owned the WCCW name just the tape library. Sounds to me like your just making ignorant assumptions. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 10, 2017 23:12:06 GMT -5
Vince owned the WCCW name and logos and let it expire. If it was any value to him he would've renewed. The library is all he cares about. Where are you getting this from, cause the person I talked with (the person who currently owns the name and is president of the PWHF) told me straight out Vince never owned the WCCW name just the tape library. Sounds to me like your just making ignorant assumptions. I'm pretty sure I remember WCCW merchandise like tshirts with the logo around the time of the WWE produced DVD release. Even if Vince didn't own it, I'm sure if he really wanted it and saw value in it then he would've acquired it. |
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Post by Classic Collector: The Return on Jul 11, 2017 7:22:35 GMT -5
Where are you getting this from, cause the person I talked with (the person who currently owns the name and is president of the PWHF) told me straight out Vince never owned the WCCW name just the tape library. Sounds to me like your just making ignorant assumptions. I'm pretty sure I remember WCCW merchandise like tshirts with the logo around the time of the WWE produced DVD release. Even if Vince didn't own it, I'm sure if he really wanted it and saw value in it then he would've acquired it. Unlike you I like facts - Vince never owned it. It's been abandoned since 2003 before they made the DVD. It's been public domain since then, but not anymore. I think it was more of an oversight on WWE's behalf not owning it. Same goes with say a Pro Wrestling Tees who could have gotten it if they looksd into it. But the fact you say it has no value on a post where someone wants to buy muchandise with the name on it kinda goes against everything your saying doesn't it? |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 11, 2017 7:50:54 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I remember WCCW merchandise like tshirts with the logo around the time of the WWE produced DVD release. Even if Vince didn't own it, I'm sure if he really wanted it and saw value in it then he would've acquired it. Unlike you I like facts - Vince never owned it. It's been abandoned since 2003 before they made the DVD. It's been public domain since then, but not anymore. I think it was more of an oversight on WWE's behalf not owning it. Same goes with say a Pro Wrestling Tees who could have gotten it if they looksd into it. But the fact you say it has no value on a post where someone wants to buy muchandise with the name on it kinda goes against everything your saying doesn't it? I never said it didn't have value. I said it doesn't have value to Vince. I highly doubt it was an oversight. If he made a t-shirt then his legal team would've looked into who owned the trademark and right then and there would've known it was up for grabs. He could've attempted to acquire it at any time over the last 14 years and didn't. |
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