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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jul 25, 2017 16:33:24 GMT -5
As someone who is old & collected Jakks from day 1, I'd much rather have Savage, Steamboat, The Von Erichs, Magnum TA, & Elizabeth than Battle Kat, Abe Knuckleball Schwartz, Well Dunn, The original Smash (who wasn't around long enough to be justified anyhow) or Johnny V. Quality > Quantity. Mattel still has the license for years to come. And all signs point to it remaining that way for the foreseeable future. Plus Bill has shown that he's finding more and more ways to get us Elite Flashbacks every year. So I am willing to bet Virgil will NOT be the only Flashback released this year. Just got to be patient. lol at picking the worst jakks made vs the 6 big names mattel got signed. to be fair on not negative towards jakks its more like: Savage, Steamboat, The Von Erichs, Magnum TA, & Elizabeth vs Dude Love Koko B. Ware One Man Gang Don Muraco Gorilla Monsoon Harley Race Superstar Billy Graham Bruiser Brody Chief Jay Strongbow Freddie Blassie Greg Valentine Sabu Fabulous Moolah Ken Shamrock Rick Steiner Brooklyn Brawler Captain Lou Albano Killer Kowalski Jimmy Valiant Al Snow Bad News Brown Brother Love Droz Mountie Luna Vachon Ernie Ladd Abdullah the Butcher Bob Backlund Sensational Sherri Zeus The Genius Ron Bass The Barbarian The Warlord Giant Gonzales Rocky Johnson Repo Man Ken Patera Ivan Putski Val Venis King Mabel Sunny Kevin Sullivan Adam Bomb Howard Finkel Nikita Koloff Ron Simmons WCW Tony Atlas Sandman Jeff Hardy Jesse Ventura Taz Buff Bagwell Spark Plugg Holly Chainsaw Charlie Spike Dudley Berzerker Billy Kidman Goldberg Bastion Booger Haku/Meng Giant Machine Dr. Death Steve Williams Mr Fuji Danny Davis Crush Harvy Wimpleman Sting, Jarrett, Raven, Earl Hebner, etc came out later in LOTR! Midnight Express Strike Force Hollywood Blondes Killer Bees British Bulldogs Rock & Roll Express The Russians Too Cool Hardy Boyz Mega Maniacs The Freebirds Rythm n Blues Powers of Pain But are we gonna list everyone else Mattel has made since 2010 that Jakks didnt?
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Post by ClassicFan2 on Jul 25, 2017 16:36:45 GMT -5
"Moving forward to the present, the same thing appears to be happening again, namely that the number of people who collect the figures of the older legends has declined. For whatever reason, many old school collectors have gotten out of the game and this is the reason IMO why these figures are not selling as well as they were just a few years ago and why it appears we (unfortunately) will be seeing less of these types of figures produced going forward"
im as hardcore of a collector for legends as anyone. been collecting them since ljn,remco,hasro,jakks,etc.
lack of new 1985-1996 legends is really getting old. most collectors want to collect new figs and more old names for the rosters. not 15 warriors/savage's. sure alot of warriors/savages is awesome to go WITH all the other legends that should be made, but not as a base for the legends line.
and lol at the current fig buyers/collectors who get SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO frikin many new figs to buy getting on us. they are on here everday asking for EVERY outfit a new wrestler wears (when are we gettin so and so in this color?) yet jum,p all over us if we would want any of the figs on this I just posted above. how would like to never get half the roster they are watching and want to have made? yeah, it would suck!
man, how bad would a conversation be with mattel and wwe. Mattel: "listen, we would like to make more legends for the fig line, any chance we can do some not a on legends deal"? wwe: NO, we hate all old legends and if you ask again were switching to Kenner"
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Post by ClassicFan2 on Jul 25, 2017 16:38:20 GMT -5
lol at picking the worst jakks made vs the 6 big names mattel got signed. to be fair on not negative towards jakks its more like: Savage, Steamboat, The Von Erichs, Magnum TA, & Elizabeth vs Dude Love Koko B. Ware One Man Gang Don Muraco Gorilla Monsoon Harley Race Superstar Billy Graham Bruiser Brody Chief Jay Strongbow Freddie Blassie Greg Valentine Sabu Fabulous Moolah Ken Shamrock Rick Steiner Brooklyn Brawler Captain Lou Albano Killer Kowalski Jimmy Valiant Al Snow Bad News Brown Brother Love Droz Mountie Luna Vachon Ernie Ladd Abdullah the Butcher Bob Backlund Sensational Sherri Zeus The Genius Ron Bass The Barbarian The Warlord Giant Gonzales Rocky Johnson Repo Man Ken Patera Ivan Putski Val Venis King Mabel Sunny Kevin Sullivan Adam Bomb Howard Finkel Nikita Koloff Ron Simmons WCW Tony Atlas Sandman Jeff Hardy Jesse Ventura Taz Buff Bagwell Spark Plugg Holly Chainsaw Charlie Spike Dudley Berzerker Billy Kidman Goldberg Bastion Booger Haku/Meng Giant Machine Dr. Death Steve Williams Mr Fuji Danny Davis Crush Harvy Wimpleman Sting, Jarrett, Raven, Earl Hebner, etc came out later in LOTR! Midnight Express Strike Force Hollywood Blondes Killer Bees British Bulldogs Rock & Roll Express The Russians Too Cool Hardy Boyz Mega Maniacs The Freebirds Rythm n Blues Powers of Pain But are we gonna list everyone else Mattel has made since 2010 that Jakks didnt? for legends, be my guest:
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jul 25, 2017 16:48:43 GMT -5
But are we gonna list everyone else Mattel has made since 2010 that Jakks didnt? for legends, be my guest:
Well for starters you listed Shamrock, Hardyz, Goldberg, Sting, Berzerker, and Warlord which all have or are getting a Mattel
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Post by qdogg on Jul 25, 2017 17:10:49 GMT -5
Well Dunn is probably in my top 100 tag wants but not my top 99 lol
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Post by 💯ULTIMATE💯 on Jul 25, 2017 17:12:29 GMT -5
Well, this snowballed real quick
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Post by Vamp55 on Jul 25, 2017 17:15:24 GMT -5
I miss Jeremy... Don't get me wrong, Bill is awesome. But Jeremy was is the man!
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Post by ClassicFan2 on Jul 25, 2017 17:15:26 GMT -5
for legends, be my guest:
Well for starters you listed Shamrock, Hardyz, Goldberg, Sting, Berzerker, and Warlord which all have or are getting a Mattel thats my bad! I edited it before I hit post but apprently not! Sting was for those who didnt know Jakks made him and stated saying Sting for Mattel.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 25, 2017 21:05:45 GMT -5
As someone who is old & collected Jakks from day 1, I'd much rather have Savage, Steamboat, The Von Erichs, Magnum TA, & Elizabeth than Battle Kat, Abe Knuckleball Schwartz, Well Dunn, The original Smash (who wasn't around long enough to be justified anyhow) or Johnny V. Quality > Quantity. Mattel still has the license for years to come. And all signs point to it remaining that way for the foreseeable future. Plus Bill has shown that he's finding more and more ways to get us Elite Flashbacks every year. So I am willing to bet Virgil will NOT be the only Flashback released this year. Just got to be patient. lol at picking the worst jakks made vs the 6 big names mattel got signed. to be fair on not negative towards jakks its more like: Savage, Steamboat, The Von Erichs, Magnum TA, & Elizabeth vs Dude Love Koko B. Ware One Man Gang Don Muraco Gorilla Monsoon Harley Race Superstar Billy Graham Bruiser Brody Chief Jay Strongbow Freddie Blassie Greg Valentine Sabu Fabulous Moolah Rick Steiner Brooklyn Brawler Captain Lou Albano Killer Kowalski Jimmy Valiant Al Snow Bad News Brown Brother Love Mountie Luna Vachon Abdullah the Butcher Bob Backlund Sensational Sherri Zeus The Genius Ron Bass The Barbarian Giant Gonzales Rocky Johnson Repo Man Ken Patera Ivan Putski Val Venis King Mabel Sunny Kevin Sullivan Adam Bomb Howard Finkel Nikita Koloff Ron Simmons WCW Tony Atlas Sandman Jesse Ventura Taz Buff Bagwell Spark Plugg Holly Chainsaw Charlie Spike Dudley Billy Kidman Bastion Booger Haku/Meng Giant Machine Dr. Death Steve Williams Mr Fuji Danny Davis Crush Harvy Wimpleman Sting, Jarrett, Raven, Earl Hebner, etc came out later in LOTR! Midnight Express Strike Force Hollywood Blondes Killer Bees British Bulldogs Rock & Roll Express The Russians Too Cool Mega Maniacs The Freebirds Rythm n Blues Powers of Pain Besides Knuckleball, I only named the guys he did. Ya may wanna reread the original post.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 21:40:57 GMT -5
Well, how about that. Those are all in the Mattel suggestion board, which I rarely visit, which explains why I never came across any of those threads. I wonder how many of those that wanted this figure actually bought it?! If its warming as bad as you say then perhaps Bill/MDT over estimated the demand for this figure?! For myself I have the L4 Warrior and Lost legends Warior, those are good enough for me. Also, like PJ, I don't like Warrior in singlets (and Macho in tights) so I have no interest in the UM DM, even if it was heavily discounted.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jul 25, 2017 21:44:40 GMT -5
Well, how about that. Those are all in the Mattel suggestion board, which I rarely visit, which explains why I never came across any of those threads. I wonder how many of those that wanted this figure actually bought it?! If its warming as bad as you say then perhaps Bill/MDT over estimated the demand for this figure?! For myself I have the L4 Warrior and Lost legends Warior, those are good enough for me. Also, like PJ, I don't like Warrior in singlets (and Macho in tights) so I have no interest in the UM DM, even if it was heavily discounted. Yeah I feel you on the singlets. Dont care about Macho Man in tights though because I started watching in 97/98 and he looked like a badass in nWo. Way more than Hogan with the dyed beard. But I digress. I only got the DM Warrior because it was heavily discounted. $3
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 21:53:45 GMT -5
3 bucks?! They must really hate Warrior (or at least this figure) in the are you live, why would they discount it so much, that's insane! Did they ship too many cases to the stores in your area and if so why don't they move some to a store in another area where they might sell or is that not possible?!
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jul 25, 2017 22:02:32 GMT -5
3 bucks?! They must really hate Warrior (or at least this figure) in the are you live, why would they discount it so much, that's insane! Did they ship too many cases to the stores in your area and if so why don't they move some to a store in another area where they might sell or is that not possible?! I live in Kansas City, MO This user lives in Texas More pics in this thread. That was just the endcap. There was more in the aisle. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/343999/post-photos-mattel-sections-where
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jul 25, 2017 22:54:21 GMT -5
Seeing that overflow of one figure makes my stomach turn.
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Post by 666erickana on Jul 26, 2017 6:23:46 GMT -5
They shipped over 100 figs for your store, and zero to canada, what a great distribution service mattel !
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 26, 2017 6:58:17 GMT -5
I love to be lectured by people who come on these threads and tell us the obvious that Cena's sell the best! DUH! BUt many of us love legends ... they are fun - they look good - they have value - they are more expensive to get on the after market and us legend lovers will keep our voice and encouragement. We had to hear all the lecturing and blather about how legends don't sell and how they are now officially dead .... blah blah blah ... But now that Bill has said more legends more flashbacks will come out and will be creative on more releases ... BOOM! You lost. You are wrong. YEA! How do you like me now haters?
Legends live!
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jul 26, 2017 7:26:27 GMT -5
They shipped over 100 figs for your store, and zero to canada, what a great distribution service mattel ! Don't blame Mattel, blame whatever stores in Canada didn't place orders to Mattel for figures 🤷🏽♂️
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 8:59:23 GMT -5
Ok, now that I think about this I'm pretty pissed off. They can make the bunny, zombies, and god dang mutantsbut they can't make the gobbledygooker. I have to respectfully say that is bull crap. I know that a wm7 Liz might need some new sculpting. I also know that bill in last years q&a said that wm7 figures are his favorite and hinting at a Liz from wm7. I can't stand it when they make all of the worthless things like build figure, dolls, mutants, zombies, and a freakin bunny but they couldn't make a goobledygooker or a wm7 Liz. I need a wm7 Liz to go with my warrior and macho man. I NEED one. I wish I could truly express how much I can't stand this kind of stuff but I don't want to get kicked of the forum. Jakks was nice. They made so many different wrestlers. We don't need a ton of John Cenas or whatever new era wrestlers you want to talk about. We need more legends before it's to late. What happened to all those contracts Jakks had. Did Mattel not receive them. If I'm missing any information Mattel that could prove me wrong. Please, make me aware.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 9:06:39 GMT -5
lol at picking the worst jakks made vs the 6 big names mattel got signed. to be fair on not negative towards jakks its more like: Savage, Steamboat, The Von Erichs, Magnum TA, & Elizabeth vs Dude Love Koko B. Ware One Man Gang Don Muraco Gorilla Monsoon Harley Race Superstar Billy Graham Bruiser Brody Chief Jay Strongbow Freddie Blassie Greg Valentine Sabu Fabulous Moolah Ken Shamrock Rick Steiner Brooklyn Brawler Captain Lou Albano Killer Kowalski Jimmy Valiant Al Snow Bad News Brown Brother Love Droz Mountie Luna Vachon Ernie Ladd Abdullah the Butcher Bob Backlund Sensational Sherri Zeus The Genius Ron Bass The Barbarian The Warlord Giant Gonzales Rocky Johnson Repo Man Ken Patera Ivan Putski Val Venis King Mabel Sunny Kevin Sullivan Adam Bomb Howard Finkel Nikita Koloff Ron Simmons WCW Tony Atlas Sandman Jeff Hardy Jesse Ventura Taz Buff Bagwell Spark Plugg Holly Chainsaw Charlie Spike Dudley Berzerker Billy Kidman Goldberg Bastion Booger Haku/Meng Giant Machine Dr. Death Steve Williams Mr Fuji Danny Davis Crush Harvy Wimpleman Sting, Jarrett, Raven, Earl Hebner, etc came out later in LOTR! Midnight Express Strike Force Hollywood Blondes Killer Bees British Bulldogs Rock & Roll Express The Russians Too Cool Hardy Boyz Mega Maniacs The Freebirds Rythm n Blues Powers of Pain But are we gonna list everyone else Mattel has made since 2010 that Jakks didnt? So Jakks didn't make a few. Mattel is more directed towards children that's all. And children don't know all those wrestlers that Jakks made. I'm 14, I don't know all of them either. I am a child, yes. But I do now most of them to the point where I would like Mattel to produce them. Number it would be nice, number two I wouldn't have to see those names being requested every time I log on the forum. Still, before any of that. All stars jake Roberts rerelease, or at least one w Damien and sack. That HOF one is terrible. We don't need two snakes. Just Damien and sack. Roddy piper. Wm7 Liz (PLEASE). Wm3 steamboat. Slim Jim commercial savage.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 9:08:19 GMT -5
They shipped over 100 figs for your store, and zero to canada, what a great distribution service mattel ! Yeah no kidding
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