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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 18, 2017 20:13:32 GMT -5
OK imagine that it's 1998 and Austin is in the ring with The Undertaker. Then both men get into a huge brawl and DX, the Nation, LOD, Ken Shamrock etc all come out to break them up. Imagine how much that would've sucked seeing guys who had their own characters and feuds being used as security to restrain main eventers.
Now if it was wrong to do it then that means it's also wrong to do it now and it's something that's been happening quite regularly on Raw these past few weeks. Now the only time I didn't have an issue with the locker room breaking up a fight was when it was Taker and Brock because it was a rare occurrence and fitted the feud well.
I know that many people don't care about modern WWE but IMO it is breaking kayfabe infront of the entire audience because your seeing the Hardyz, Miztourage, Goldust, the Revival and many more breaking character to deal with brawls.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 20:18:59 GMT -5
Didn't we just talk about this last week?
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 18, 2017 20:31:42 GMT -5
Didn't we just talk about this last week? Nah the discussion last week was about security being overused during brawls. This thread is about them using wrestlers. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Aug 18, 2017 20:31:42 GMT -5
I dont think its breaking kayfabe as long as heels restrain the heel and faces restrain the face. That's how it happened in the 80s/90s. I think it was Andre choking Hogan when guys like Bulldogs, Tito and Duggan (could be wrong on who) all rushed out to separate them. It gives it a bigger appeal to me. I mean lets be honest, if Hogan & Savage are in a shoving match and a bunch of old washed up farts like Strongbow, Goulet and Garea can break them up, how tough does it make Hogan & Savage look. Id be much more impressed to know the friction is so high that it takes guys who are "larger then life" to split them.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 18, 2017 20:32:53 GMT -5
I think WWE should go back to using indy wrestlers as security guards.
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Post by Valbroski on Aug 18, 2017 20:33:48 GMT -5
My only issue is it seems over used. To me it was only really fitting with Cena/Lesnar.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 18, 2017 20:36:45 GMT -5
I dont think its breaking kayfabe as long as heels restrain the heel and faces restrain the face. That's how it happened in the 80s/90s. I think it was Andre choking Hogan when guys like Bulldogs, Tito and Duggan (could be wrong on who) all rushed out to separate them. It gives it a bigger appeal to me. I mean lets be honest, if Hogan & Savage are in a shoving match and a bunch of old washed up farts like Strongbow, Goulet and Garea can break them up, how tough does it make Hogan & Savage look. Id be much more impressed to know the friction is so high that it takes guys who are "larger then life" to split them. Heels are the main issue and it goes against some of their characters. Take The Revival for example they put New Day out of action for weeks and viciously attacked the Hardyz but then they are helping break up a fight. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 18, 2017 20:39:36 GMT -5
I think WWE should go back to using indy wrestlers as security guards. That used to be cool because you can look back and see some wrestlers who are currently on the roster. A while back I saw a video with Sheamus and Wade Barrett as security guards. |
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Aug 18, 2017 20:58:24 GMT -5
I think only faces should be used in those scenerios. The "good guys" trying to break up a fight makes sense. The "bad guys" should be the ones looking for a fight.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Aug 18, 2017 21:03:39 GMT -5
I noticed the Hardyz were out there Monday night.
Also noticed the Hardyz on the kickoff show.
Fitting as I see wrestlers who break up fights now not main eventing.
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Post by k5 on Aug 18, 2017 21:35:12 GMT -5
traditionally you used guys that weren't at the top of the card and/or didn't have an ongoing hot feud with anyone. watch ecw - it's always the faces that otherwise weren't booked or had jobbed earlier.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Aug 18, 2017 21:43:34 GMT -5
Eh, it is what it is. Doesn't bother me one bit
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 18, 2017 23:12:36 GMT -5
It's incredibly stupid. Doing it once or twice a year during a huge, physical feud, I think can be cool because it adds legitimacy. The Undertaker and Lesnar brawl a few years ago utilized it perfectly. But doing it every week with security getting involved is just such overkill. It should only be done on special occasions that actually call for it.
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Post by TheLastDude on Aug 18, 2017 23:52:27 GMT -5
While it is overused, it's not anything to really care about.
1) The line between heel and face is blurred beyond recognition now.
2) Social media.
-In the last week we saw Braun and Alexa getting jerseys from the Yankees, and Neville teaming up with Sasha Banks in a video game tournament.
3) Backstage segments.
-We see everyone just walking around backstage together. In every other sport, there are separate locker rooms and separate benches. Here, we know they all room together, work together, and travel together.
4) We're supposed to see these people as larger than life.
-How can regular security break these guys up? It's the same reason why cops and military get smashed by supervillains until the heroes show up. Security guards are for the jabronis in the stands.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Aug 18, 2017 23:53:04 GMT -5
It is a good concept for a big feud. Maybe if they throw some security in with the wrestlers to help would be good too. You have to think of Brock wants to be a real badass and unstoppable, how is a 20 year old making whatever they do gunna keep this monster restrained? Just makes them look weak. Now take 2-3 guys his size and it's oh wow he can barely be held back.
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Post by Darkhawk on Aug 19, 2017 0:48:56 GMT -5
I hate how Raw is breaking up brawls constantly they have been doing this for every feud that involves Lesnar which I hate. Just let them fight it out, hit their finishers until one guy is left standing making the fans assume he will walk out victorious in the PPV. Pretty sure nobody broke up the brawl between The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin when they fought in the ring against each other, the segment ended with one of them hitting their finisher or the other walking away.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Aug 19, 2017 9:01:55 GMT -5
I think WWE should go back to using indy wrestlers as security guards. Yeah I agree, it still feels very weird whenever I think of Strowman as one of Adam Roses' party people, then you see him on raw smashing crap outta people... Or CM Punk as one of John Cena's mafia gangsters at mania. I guess it saves money and time using talent already in the company as opposed to sourcing 12 people from outside |
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 20, 2017 15:20:32 GMT -5
Ya'll do realize the security guards are still indy wrestlers?
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Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 20, 2017 17:32:45 GMT -5
I agree. It's rubbish.
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