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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Aug 25, 2017 1:05:13 GMT -5
Did anyone else wish there had been a Cruiserweight Classic this year? For those of you who did, who would you liked to see participate? Let's discuss in in this thread. I'll start.
I think the formula Triple H used of selecting WWE veterans, International stars & Independent wrestlers was perfect. The following are wrestlers which I think would be fantastic additions to a Cruiserweight tournament.
#1. James Gibson/Jamie Noble. James is a former ROH Champion, WWE Cruiserweight Champion, & one of the most underrated technicians of his generation. When I watch the matches of James from Ring of Honor during his title run in 2004, I see a wrestler that Danny Hodge would have payed to work with in the 60s defending the light heavyweight championship of the world across the country. Give James Gibson time off to train & prepare down at the performance center, & you could see a comeback on level with Brian Kendrick.
#2. Lio Rush. Lio is wildly innovative, & defies the flippy do stereotype. Lio at first glance is exactly what old school fans complain about, but upon further examination, Lio's esoteric techniques takes advantage of his superior speed in order to compensate for his size disadvantage. At barely 170lbs, Lio is almost too small to be taken seriously as a legitimate professional wrestler, but has overcome so much with his truly unique style.
#3: Paul London. Paul is just like Brian Kendrick, Chris Hero, James Gibson, & so many others of this generation of wrestlers, in that he's a genius wrestler who has had success in the past, & deserves bigger stages that he receives. He would do tremendously well on 205 Live and NXT after the tournament was over.
Random Note: WWE UK should be featured more heavily on NXT & they should be all be signed as full time wrestlers, with the UK title being defend regularly on NXT cards. Which brings me to my next selection.
#4 Joseph Conners. If that name rings a bell, then you've proven my point. Joseph stood out to me during the WWE's United Kingdom tournament for the simple fact that he has a crazed look in his eyes & determination in his every movement. He could become a valuable contribution to WWE in his own way through participation in this tournament.
Others I considered include, but are not limited to: Andrew Everett, Speedball Mike Bailey, Chris Sabin, A.R. Fox. Ricochet, Kushida, Timothy Thatcher if he could cut weight, Davey Richards if he were to part ways with GFW, & in what I personally think would be amazing, Jushin Thunder Liger.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 25, 2017 15:44:00 GMT -5
I would love for the Cruiserweight Classic to take place on Raw each week now that the Cruiserweights are supposed to be RAW stars.
I say Raw and not 205 Live because the Classic should be something that showcases Cruiserweight wrestling to a larger audience and directs its attention to 205 Live afterwards.
Have all the current Cruiserweights in there and add a few from elsewhere. So, here's who I would include:
Current Roster:
Akira Tozawa Airya Daivari Brian Kendrick Cedrick Alexander Drew Gulak Enzo Amore Gran Metalik Jack Gallagher Lince Dorado Mustafa Ali Noam Dar Rich Swann TJ Perkins Sami Zayn (in search of redemption) Kalisto Pete Dunne Tyler Bate Johnny Gargano (Introduction to the main roster) Tomasso Ciampa (Introduction to the main roster) Roderick Strong (Introduction to the main roster) Hideo Itami (could be just the thing to remind WWE fans why he was such a big deal)
New Comers:
Lio Rush (Before going to NXT) Ricochet (Before going to NXT) Zack Sabre Junior (Before going to WWE:UK and continuing to work indie dates like the others) Will Osprey (See: ZSJr) Rey Mysterio (returning veteran like Tajiri last year - becomes the face of 205 Live) Matt Sydal (before going to 205 Live) Joey Ryan (Before going to NXT) Aero Star (Before going back to Mexico, like Ibushi did last year) Matt Cross (Before going to NXT)
Winner gets the trophy and a shot at Adiran Nevillie's Cruiserweight Championship at Survivor Series.
I would have loads of vignettes produced like they did last year so the audience knows all they can about the compeititors, and I'd allow the quarter finals and semi finals around twenty minute matches (10 for the preliminary rounds) with the final being a thirty minute classic between Gargano and Ciampa as the big blow-off for their feud.
A man can dream.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Aug 25, 2017 19:46:30 GMT -5
I would love for the Cruiserweight Classic to take place on Raw each week now that the Cruiserweights are supposed to be RAW stars. I say Raw and not 205 Live because the Classic should be something that showcases Cruiserweight wrestling to a larger audience and directs its attention to 205 Live afterwards. Have all the current Cruiserweights in there and add a few from elsewhere. So, here's who I would include: Current Roster: Akira Tozawa Airya Daivari Brian Kendrick Cedrick Alexander Drew Gulak Enzo Amore Gran Metalik Jack Gallagher Lince Dorado Mustafa Ali Noam Dar Rich Swann TJ Perkins Sami Zayn (in search of redemption) Kalisto Pete Dunne Tyler Bate Johnny Gargano (Introduction to the main roster) Tomasso Ciampa (Introduction to the main roster) Roderick Strong (Introduction to the main roster) Hideo Itami (could be just the thing to remind WWE fans why he was such a big deal) New Comers: Lio Rush (Before going to NXT) Ricochet (Before going to NXT) Zack Sabre Junior (Before going to WWE:UK and continuing to work indie dates like the others) Will Osprey (See: ZSJr) Rey Mysterio (returning veteran like Tajiri last year - becomes the face of 205 Live) Matt Sydal (before going to 205 Live) Joey Ryan (Before going to NXT) Aero Star (Before going back to Mexico, like Ibushi did last year) Matt Cross (Before going to NXT) Winner gets the trophy and a shot at Adiran Nevillie's Cruiserweight Championship at Survivor Series. I would have loads of vignettes produced like they did last year so the audience knows all they can about the compeititors, and I'd allow the quarter finals and semi finals around twenty minute matches (10 for the preliminary rounds) with the final being a thirty minute classic between Gargano and Ciampa as the big blow-off for their feud. A man can dream. So you're saying we should have the tournament matches on RAW? I like that. I personally think it should be people who haven't been in the tournament previously with the exception of one, but I don't really have a reason for that. Also, Joey Ryan needs to be beaten within an inch of life & strapped in a chastity belt. I despise that slime ball. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 25, 2017 23:02:31 GMT -5
"Fantasy 1017"
Wow!! We are really going back in time for that one. I guess I would have to pick Moses... was he around still then?? What about Noah?? I am sure Jesus was dead by then.... right?? Either way, what an interesting topic!
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Post by Red Dragon on Aug 26, 2017 4:17:32 GMT -5
With lots of International guys on the 205 roster, I'd prefer a World Cup type tournament and include all the guys from 205 live, a couple from NXT and WWE:UK and a few from the indies. Would make 205 more interesting if they were all fighting for something.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 10:06:50 GMT -5
Have in The Modfather Flash Morgan Webster and ya got yourself a deal.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Aug 26, 2017 23:17:38 GMT -5
"Fantasy 1017" Wow!! We are really going back in time for that one. I guess I would have to pick Moses... was he around still then?? What about Noah?? I am sure Jesus was dead by then.... right?? Either way, what an interesting topic! I'd feel embarrassed, but if you immediately think of the biblical characters as your idea of the first century common era then I need to be your history tutor. Secondly, the story of Moses & Noah occurred prior to the birth of Christ, so those were from long before the first century as well. Furthermore, 1017 is the 11th Century! You're off by a thousand years just like my title was. Lol XD You couldn't take the 20 minutes to google who was noteworthy in the 11th century?
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Aug 27, 2017 5:41:37 GMT -5
I'm hoping the Cruiserweight Classic and Mae Young Classic will be Biennial, once every two years. Cruiserweight Classic next year, Mae Young Classic returns in 2019. Gives two years for new stars in NXT and the independent scene to rise up.
The 2018 CWC should include more NXT Talent, 2016 had Swann, Gargano and Ciampa? I think were the only NXT talents. As well as use some WWE UK Talents.
1. TJP - Philippines. The returning champion. 2. Lio Rush - United States 3. Oney Lorcan - United States 4. Bobby Fish - United States 5. Davey Richards - United States 6. Jessy Sorensen - United States. CWC 2016 Alternate. 7. Fred Yehi - United States 8. ACH - United States 9. Jason Kincaid - United States 10. Kyle O'Reilly - Canada 11. Adam Brooks - Australia 12. Robbie Eagles - Australia 13. Travis Banks - New Zealand 14. TK Cooper - New Zealand 15. The Mecha Wolf - Puerto Rico. CWC 2016 Alternate. 16. Johnny Vandal - Turkey. CWC 2016 Alternate. 17. Axel Dieter Jr. - Germany 18. Zumbi - Brazil. CWC 2016 Participant until Visa issues came up. 19. BT Gunn - Scotland 20. Davey Blaze - Scotland 21. Kenny Williams - Scotland 22. Danny Burch - England. Burch and Oney can be like the Ciampa/Gargano showdown in the first round. 23. Doug Williams - England. Currently over 220 but sure if given enough time he could drop the weight. 24. Joseph Conners - England 25. Mark Andrews - Wales 26. Rockstar Spud - England. He hasn't done much with GFW since India, they could probably get him. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32.
Left blank spaces for Asian talents as I'm not too familiar with promotions in Asia other than NJPW, just find I don't have a great deal of time to watch any other companies. And for any other regions I couldn't think off the top of my head.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Aug 27, 2017 11:15:53 GMT -5
I'm hoping the Cruiserweight Classic and Mae Young Classic will be Biennial, once every two years. Cruiserweight Classic next year, Mae Young Classic returns in 2019. Gives two years for new stars in NXT and the independent scene to rise up. The 2018 CWC should include more NXT Talent, 2016 had Swann, Gargano and Ciampa? I think were the only NXT talents. As well as use some WWE UK Talents. 1. TJP - Philippines. The returning champion. 2. Lio Rush - United States 3. Oney Lorcan - United States 4. Bobby Fish - United States 5. Davey Richards - United States 6. Jessy Sorensen - United States. CWC 2016 Alternate. 7. Fred Yehi - United States 8. ACH - United States 9. Jason Kincaid - United States 10. Kyle O'Reilly - Canada 11. Adam Brooks - Australia 12. Robbie Eagles - Australia 13. Travis Banks - New Zealand 14. TK Cooper - New Zealand 15. The Mecha Wolf - Puerto Rico. CWC 2016 Alternate. 16. Johnny Vandal - Turkey. CWC 2016 Alternate. 17. Axel Dieter Jr. - Germany 18. Zumbi - Brazil. CWC 2016 Participant until Visa issues came up. 19. BT Gunn - Scotland 20. Davey Blaze - Scotland 21. Kenny Williams - Scotland 22. Danny Burch - England. Burch and Oney can be like the Ciampa/Gargano showdown in the first round. 23. Doug Williams - England. Currently over 220 but sure if given enough time he could drop the weight. 24. Joseph Conners - England 25. Mark Andrews - Wales 26. Rockstar Spud - England. He hasn't done much with GFW since India, they could probably get him. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32. Left blank spaces for Asian talents as I'm not too familiar with promotions in Asia other than NJPW, just find I don't have a great deal of time to watch any other companies. And for any other regions I couldn't think off the top of my head. Jesse Sorensen lmfao
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Post by Focalin on Aug 27, 2017 11:27:05 GMT -5
lemme fight rey mysterio jr in the CWC tournament.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 28, 2017 13:19:47 GMT -5
"Fantasy 1017" Wow!! We are really going back in time for that one. I guess I would have to pick Moses... was he around still then?? What about Noah?? I am sure Jesus was dead by then.... right?? Either way, what an interesting topic! I'd feel embarrassed, but if you immediately think of the biblical characters as your idea of the first century common era then I need to be your history tutor. Secondly, the story of Moses & Noah occurred prior to the birth of Christ, so those were from long before the first century as well. Furthermore, 1017 is the 11th Century! You're off by a thousand years just like my title was. Lol XD You couldn't take the 20 minutes to google who was noteworthy in the 11th century? I was just joking around, so that's why I didn't care to get the facts.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Aug 28, 2017 17:27:52 GMT -5
I'd feel embarrassed, but if you immediately think of the biblical characters as your idea of the first century common era then I need to be your history tutor. Secondly, the story of Moses & Noah occurred prior to the birth of Christ, so those were from long before the first century as well. Furthermore, 1017 is the 11th Century! You're off by a thousand years just like my title was. Lol XD You couldn't take the 20 minutes to google who was noteworthy in the 11th century? I was just joking around, so that's why I didn't care to get the facts. But it would have been so much funnier if you had!!! You missed a great joke opportunity! Shame of you! Lol
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