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Post by J12 on Oct 2, 2017 12:42:51 GMT -5
I know wrestlers have to keep their tough guy image but couldn't the security guards just get him out. Also I don't give a damn about this training in martial arts thing. CM Punk apparently trained in jiu-jitsu and got his ass kicked when he went in the UFC. The people in the ring have no idea what the fan's intentions are, if they have some sort of small weapon on them, etc. It's totally unreasonable to expect the wrestlers to just sit idly by and wait for security to take care of the problem, especially in this day and age. It has nothing to do with "tough guy image."
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Post by IRS on Oct 2, 2017 12:46:36 GMT -5
I know wrestlers have to keep their tough guy image but couldn't the security guards just get him out. Also I don't give a damn about this training in martial arts thing. CM Punk apparently trained in jiu-jitsu and got his ass kicked when he went in the UFC. You have no idea what some idiot is planning when they hop the barricade. The last thing you want to do is sit around waiting for security, and have it turn into a Dimebag situation. And there's a huge difference in using jiu-jitsu for your own defense against some jackass and being in a professional fight with another trained fighter.
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Post by bababooey on Oct 2, 2017 12:55:10 GMT -5
Too bad Randy Anderson isn't still around to take care of idiots that jump in the ring
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Post by alanpartridge on Oct 3, 2017 10:16:08 GMT -5
I know wrestlers have to keep their tough guy image but couldn't the security guards just get him out. Also I don't give a damn about this training in martial arts thing. CM Punk apparently trained in jiu-jitsu and got his ass kicked when he went in the UFC. The people in the ring have no idea what the fan's intentions are, if they have some sort of small weapon on them, etc. It's totally unreasonable to expect the wrestlers to just sit idly by and wait for security to take care of the problem, especially in this day and age. It has nothing to do with "tough guy image." I have no problem with wrestlers using self defence against a fan that appears as a threat. But if some drunk guy jumps into the ring, kicking him the face seems a bit unprofessional. The security should deal with cases like that.
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Post by The American Daydream on Oct 3, 2017 10:26:50 GMT -5
The people in the ring have no idea what the fan's intentions are, if they have some sort of small weapon on them, etc. It's totally unreasonable to expect the wrestlers to just sit idly by and wait for security to take care of the problem, especially in this day and age. It has nothing to do with "tough guy image." I have no problem with wrestlers using self defence against a fan that appears as a threat. But if some drunk guy jumps into the ring, kicking him the face seems a bit unprofessional. The security should deal with cases like that. and when security isn't fast enough? I think some of the refs would be scarier. I swear I've seen videos of referees tossing fans out of the ring before.
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Post by Mox on Oct 3, 2017 12:08:13 GMT -5
The people in the ring have no idea what the fan's intentions are, if they have some sort of small weapon on them, etc. It's totally unreasonable to expect the wrestlers to just sit idly by and wait for security to take care of the problem, especially in this day and age. It has nothing to do with "tough guy image." I have no problem with wrestlers using self defence against a fan that appears as a threat. But if some drunk guy jumps into the ring, kicking him the face seems a bit unprofessional. The security should deal with cases like that. Pretty much this. We all think the guy deserved it, but that doesn't mean Oreilly should've assaulted him. That leaves him and the company open to a lawsuit. If a guy I don't know runs towards me at work, that doesn't mean I can stand up in my cubicle and roundhouse him.
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Post by The American Daydream on Oct 3, 2017 13:00:41 GMT -5
I have no problem with wrestlers using self defence against a fan that appears as a threat. But if some drunk guy jumps into the ring, kicking him the face seems a bit unprofessional. The security should deal with cases like that. Pretty much this. We all think the guy deserved it, but that doesn't mean Oreilly should've assaulted him. That leaves him and the company open to a lawsuit. If a guy I don't know runs towards me at work, that doesn't mean I can stand up in my cubicle and roundhouse him. but it also doesnt mean you should decline the opportunity to make Chuck Norris proud.
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Post by blissfan4life on Oct 3, 2017 13:32:56 GMT -5
The people in the ring have no idea what the fan's intentions are, if they have some sort of small weapon on them, etc. It's totally unreasonable to expect the wrestlers to just sit idly by and wait for security to take care of the problem, especially in this day and age. It has nothing to do with "tough guy image." I have no problem with wrestlers using self defence against a fan that appears as a threat. But if some drunk guy jumps into the ring, kicking him the face seems a bit unprofessional. The security should deal with cases like that. Its not unprofessional, Its called self defense, also the wrestlers don't know if said fan has a weapon so yes Kicking is necessary.
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Post by blissfan4life on Oct 3, 2017 13:33:45 GMT -5
I have no problem with wrestlers using self defence against a fan that appears as a threat. But if some drunk guy jumps into the ring, kicking him the face seems a bit unprofessional. The security should deal with cases like that. Pretty much this. We all think the guy deserved it, but that doesn't mean Oreilly should've assaulted him. That leaves him and the company open to a lawsuit. If a guy I don't know runs towards me at work, that doesn't mean I can stand up in my cubicle and roundhouse him. O Reilly isn't at fault here. The fan should not have jumped the barricade, I bet you blame robbery victims for being robbed as well
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Post by Mox on Oct 3, 2017 14:07:03 GMT -5
Pretty much this. We all think the guy deserved it, but that doesn't mean Oreilly should've assaulted him. That leaves him and the company open to a lawsuit. If a guy I don't know runs towards me at work, that doesn't mean I can stand up in my cubicle and roundhouse him. O Reilly isn't at fault here. The fan should not have jumped the barricade, I bet you blame robbery victims for being robbed as well
*Gasp!*
Well I never!
Let's just avoid this argument and say you're right.
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Post by IRS on Oct 3, 2017 15:46:37 GMT -5
I have no problem with wrestlers using self defence against a fan that appears as a threat. But if some drunk guy jumps into the ring, kicking him the face seems a bit unprofessional. The security should deal with cases like that. Pretty much this. We all think the guy deserved it, but that doesn't mean Oreilly should've assaulted him. That leaves him and the company open to a lawsuit. If a guy I don't know runs towards me at work, that doesn't mean I can stand up in my cubicle and roundhouse him. Except that the guy running at you in your cubicle isn't paying to see you perform, and there probably aren't rules or security measures in place to prevent him from jumping out of his seat and over a barricade at you. Once the guy breaks the law and leaps over the barricade, it's his own fault if he gets kicked, stomped, or punched in the face. It's not like O'Reilly walked up to the railing and kicked him while he was in the crowd.
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Post by bababooey on Oct 3, 2017 17:30:17 GMT -5
Pretty much this. We all think the guy deserved it, but that doesn't mean Oreilly should've assaulted him. That leaves him and the company open to a lawsuit. If a guy I don't know runs towards me at work, that doesn't mean I can stand up in my cubicle and roundhouse him. Except that the guy running at you in your cubicle isn't paying to see you perform, and there probably aren't rules or security measures in place to prevent him from jumping out of his seat and over a barricade at you. Once the guy breaks the law and leaps over the barricade, it's his own fault if he gets kicked, stomped, or punched in the face. It's not like O'Reilly walked up to the railing and kicked him while he was in the crowd. Barrier or no barrier, if someone comes running at you and you don't know their intentions, you have the right to defend yourself. It's totally reasonable to not expect someone in that situation to be like "Hmmm this guy might try to stab me. I sure hope security can get here in time."
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Post by Darkhawk on Oct 3, 2017 17:51:15 GMT -5
Once a fan runs into a wrestling ring it's all fair game to what the wrestlers do to that fan. I don't blame O'Reilly at all for kicking the fan in the face.
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Post by The American Daydream on Oct 3, 2017 19:43:56 GMT -5
Theres a NEW report going around about a fan rushing the timekeepers table at a live event trying to snatch the WWE Championship but he was tackled by security.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Oct 4, 2017 10:53:07 GMT -5
The people in the ring have no idea what the fan's intentions are, if they have some sort of small weapon on them, etc. It's totally unreasonable to expect the wrestlers to just sit idly by and wait for security to take care of the problem, especially in this day and age. It has nothing to do with "tough guy image." I have no problem with wrestlers using self defence against a fan that appears as a threat. But if some drunk guy jumps into the ring, kicking him the face seems a bit unprofessional. The security should deal with cases like that. So you're going to take the time and just assess the situation? "Eh, maybe I should let security handle this one"? That's utterly ridiculous. Once a person hops the guardrail, catching a boot to the face is probably a best case scenario for the guy. When the drunk guy hopped in the ring during the ladder match against Eddie Guerrero he caught an absolute beating before security hauled his ass away. No one complained about that because it's established that you get what you get when you cross the barricade. A person doesn't have time to go through the checklist to determine the level of threat at that point, primary concern is eliminating the threat. Kicking dude in the face is the best way to do it.
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Post by Mox on Oct 4, 2017 14:46:08 GMT -5
You can't go around punching and kicking every drunk person that does something stupid. I don't know what some of you people don't understand about that.
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Post by blissfan4life on Oct 4, 2017 15:06:01 GMT -5
You can't go around punching and kicking every drunk person that does something stupid. I don't know what some of you people don't understand about that. I don't know what you don't understand about Self Defense. The idiot had it coming going across the barricade. Unless you want a Dimebag Darrell situation to happen in the ring.
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Post by Supreme Cross on Oct 4, 2017 16:06:09 GMT -5
i want to see the actual footage of this, can someone post it actually happening?
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Oct 5, 2017 1:06:09 GMT -5
Who gives a
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Post by BCizzle on Oct 5, 2017 1:08:41 GMT -5
I always though Kyle O'Reilly looked like the wimpiest pro wrestler of all time.
But if he goes around kicking fans in the face, my opinion is going to change!
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