hierosis
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Post by hierosis on Nov 3, 2017 22:50:16 GMT -5
Ronnie Garvin has never been made and would be a fun one to add. Seriously? You know that back in the day the NWA took their title off of him only months after he won it from Flair because he was an extremely poor draw. He floundered in the WWF. I would so much rather this spot go to someone more worthy of a figure. Just my opinion.
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on Nov 4, 2017 6:16:20 GMT -5
Ronnie Garvin has never been made and would be a fun one to add. Seriously? You know that back in the day the NWA took their title off of him only months after he won it from Flair because he was an extremely poor draw. He floundered in the WWF. I would so much rather this spot go to someone more worthy of a figure. Just my opinion. Not true. The reason why Garvin lost the belt in a month was because the NWA planned it for that. All of the NWA main eventers like Dusty Rhodes passed over being the one to dethrone Flair because no one wanted the stigma of being a short term world champion. The money was being a long term, touring champ. Ronnie was the only one to say yes to doing that. By the time he went to WWF, he was long past his prime and it showed. Same when they signed Harley Race.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Nov 4, 2017 6:39:09 GMT -5
I wonder how many of these older guys are even under an actual Legends deal? Harley Race, Pedro Morales, Billy Graham...none of theme have any sort of merch out in the past 7 years. As far as we know they were signed under a temp deal for their HOF inductions and they've since expired. I know Graham is. He signed one two years ago. He actually just posted about it yesterday being the 2 year anniversary of when he signed. Don't know what the hold up is on getting a figure out. Of all those guys I want, he's easily the one who'd sell the best. I haven't taken a new roster pic in 2 years. Maybe when Kurt comes out I'll take a new shot.
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Post by SmithyPlayz on Nov 4, 2017 9:40:24 GMT -5
I personally wouldn't like these, unless they were exclusives, as someone said the market is based for Children, who's going to pay £20 for someone they've never heard of I mean I wouldn't. The reason why Jakks legends did well in the UK is that they were cheap so I would buy it even though I had no idea who they were. Now I'd rather save that £20 and wait for a new Corbin Elite or someone I don't have. I mean I hope they get made for people that want them but just not in the elite line
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natureboyfauser
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Post by natureboyfauser on Nov 4, 2017 11:53:02 GMT -5
Why would Virgil sell and not Harley Race or Bob Backlund? I love that they are making Virgil but stop with the haters poo pooing legends ... Superstar Graham, Ronnie Garvin, the Briscoe's, Dory Funk all champions.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 13:17:46 GMT -5
I am all in for the past champions. Would love a Gorgeous George but I may be in the very very small minority there. I'm dying for an Elite Gorgeous George!!
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Post by The other Rougeau brother on Nov 4, 2017 13:41:05 GMT -5
Very surprised we don’t have a king Harley Race,that would be a beautiful figure.
Would love an NWA Harley in his 83 starcade attire.
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 4, 2017 20:53:36 GMT -5
I'd love to see Championship 2 packs that could be used to help sell some less known guys Buddy Rogers and John Cena (with original WWWF title and Spinner title) Bob Backlund and Kurt Angle (with Big Green title and Undisputed title) Pedro Morales and AJ Styles (with 70's title and current title) Please do not put Buddy Rogers with John Cena, I want to get a Buddy Rogers figure. But I would have to pass on it if it came with Cena.
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 4, 2017 21:01:28 GMT -5
Ronnie Garvin has never been made and would be a fun one to add. Seriously? You know that back in the day the NWA took their title off of him only months after he won it from Flair because he was an extremely poor draw. He floundered in the WWF. I would so much rather this spot go to someone more worthy of a figure. Just my opinion. Although I agree with you that Garvin probably would not be a HUGE seller, we have a number of guys not selling (both Current and Legends) it would be nice to get someone new. I would definitely get one if he came with Greg Valentine in a 2-pack (like Warrior and Papa Shango). They had a great feud in 89-90 in the WWF, you could get their looks from Royal Rumble 1990 with both of them wearing a shin guard. Putting him with Valentine might make him sell a little better, just a thought.
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on Nov 5, 2017 9:34:24 GMT -5
Seriously? You know that back in the day the NWA took their title off of him only months after he won it from Flair because he was an extremely poor draw. He floundered in the WWF. I would so much rather this spot go to someone more worthy of a figure. Just my opinion. Although I agree with you that Garvin probably would not be a HUGE seller, we have a number of guys not selling (both Current and Legends) it would be nice to get someone new. I would definitely get one if he came with Greg Valentine in a 2-pack (like Warrior and Papa Shango). They had a great feud in 89-90 in the WWF, you could get their looks from Royal Rumble 1990 with both of them wearing a shin guard. Putting him with Valentine might make him sell a little better, just a thought. Naw, they wouldn't sell as a combo deal. You're depending on people in the over 35 bracket (Which are the people who actually seen Garvin vs Valentine saw their feud in real-time.) to care enough to buy them. As with the HOF 2 and 4 packs, that number isn't strong enough to carrying the load. There's a market for guys like that. But we're fooling ourselves thinking adult collectors are this huge fanbase for the WWE/Mattel line.
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natureboyfauser
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Post by natureboyfauser on Nov 5, 2017 13:22:02 GMT -5
You have completist collectors. You have kids that would want new figures. You have 35 and over. You have people who watch the WWE network and if WWE was smart they would make past and present relevant with that Network/merchandise!
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on Nov 5, 2017 13:41:35 GMT -5
You have completist collectors. You have kids that would want new figures. You have 35 and over. You have people who watch the WWE network and if WWE was smart they would make past and present relevant with that Network/merchandise! Kids want people they know and like. They want Enzo, Cena, Reigns, and the like. They don't care about people they don't know or gave a damn about. Apollo Crews is posted up with Tugboat and Berserker on shelves. Same for other demographics. Otherwise, Ultimate Maniacs would had sold gangbusters since they ticked off every box in what key groups liked or should liked. I love Flashbacks and continue to request more while buying them. But I know realistically that they are a hard sell to the general public. That's why Mattel is making them more store exclusive.
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Post by #HANDSOME1 on Nov 5, 2017 13:51:03 GMT -5
Harley Race Ron Simmons New Barry Windham Ron Garvin (nwa version plz)
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Post by romanthenewyorker on Nov 5, 2017 16:58:59 GMT -5
I bet they won’t release Goldberg until they have the U.S. title made
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 5, 2017 17:15:53 GMT -5
You have completist collectors. You have kids that would want new figures. You have 35 and over. You have people who watch the WWE network and if WWE was smart they would make past and present relevant with that Network/merchandise! Kids want people they know and like. They want Enzo, Cena, Reigns, and the like. They don't care about people they don't know or gave a damn about. Apollo Crews is posted up with Tugboat and Berserker on shelves. Same for other demographics. Otherwise, Ultimate Maniacs would had sold gangbusters since they ticked off every box in what key groups liked or should liked. I love Flashbacks and continue to request more while buying them. But I know realistically that they are a hard sell to the general public. That's why Mattel is making them more store exclusive. I understand that kids want people they know but they are not the only buyers. And even though you say kids want Cena, Reigns, and Enzo etc. I have been to many stores where Cena and Reigns are still on the shelves in abundance and you can't find a flashback anywhere. I have also been to stores where the reverse is happening where you see tugboats and tito's, with only a few newer guys if any. But just because some figures sell and don't sell doesn't mean we should just be getting the same figures again and again, which doesn't help sells either. I just thought that getting two new guys might help. If they don't do a massive release with Valentine and Garvin they could do a limited release like what Toysrus is doing with Isaac Yankeem and Virgil. Maybe by producing less figures there won't be that many left sitting on store shelves and it won't seem as bad. Also, right now, the figure I see the most on stores shelves around my area (Greater Houston Area) is Sami Zayn. So some newer wrestlers don't sell either.
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on Nov 5, 2017 17:24:22 GMT -5
Kids want people they know and like. They want Enzo, Cena, Reigns, and the like. They don't care about people they don't know or gave a damn about. Apollo Crews is posted up with Tugboat and Berserker on shelves. Same for other demographics. Otherwise, Ultimate Maniacs would had sold gangbusters since they ticked off every box in what key groups liked or should liked. I love Flashbacks and continue to request more while buying them. But I know realistically that they are a hard sell to the general public. That's why Mattel is making them more store exclusive. I understand that kids want people they know but they are not the only buyers. And even though you say kids want Cena, Reigns, and Enzo etc. I have been to many stores where Cena and Reigns are still on the shelves in abundance and you can't find a flashback anywhere. I have also been to stores where the reverse is happening where you see tugboats and tito's, with only a few newer guys if any. But just because some figures sell and don't sell doesn't mean we should just be getting the same figures again and again, which doesn't help sells either. I just thought that getting two new guys might help. If they don't do a massive release with Valentine and Garvin they could do a limited release like what Toysrus is doing with Isaac Yankeem and Virgil. Maybe by producing less figures there won't be that many left sitting on store shelves and it won't seem as bad. Also, right now, the figure I see the most on stores shelves around my area (Greater Houston Area) is Sami Zayn. So some newer wrestlers don't sell either. I said some newer people don't sell strong either. The reason why you see people like Cena and Roman showing up in every other series is because they sell. Maybe not in our eyes but enough Mattel keep using them. And I mentioned in other threads about Mattel changing their strategy with Flashbacks by making them store exclusives with places like WWEShop. Mattel didn't trust Yankem and Virgil for a mass release. They sent them to TRU.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 16, 2017 13:26:52 GMT -5
Updated my pic. Just missing Rogers, Koloff, Stasiak, Morales, Graham, Backlund, Hardy, and Mahal.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Dec 16, 2017 14:07:43 GMT -5
Harley Race might've been a no brainer in 2004, but not anymore
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Post by warriorheart on Dec 16, 2017 14:43:20 GMT -5
The window on Graham might of closed. He possibly had some sort of deal with the WWE the last few years as they sold his shirts on WWE Shop up to about a month or so ago. Really surprised he never got a Mattel figure during that time period.
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Post by PJ on Dec 16, 2017 14:49:30 GMT -5
Updated my pic. Just missing Rogers, Koloff, Stasiak, Morales, Graham, Backlund, Hardy, and Mahal. I would buy Koloff, Backlund, Graham, Morales and maybe Stasiak.
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