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Post by The American Nightmare on Nov 13, 2017 12:41:47 GMT -5
So, with hearing about Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn being unhappy in WWE lately, I was thinking about how amazing it was when they were both in NXT. Then I watched the preview for NXT, Secret to Sensation on the network and I made me realize how much more I like NXT, and have consistently like the NXT product, better than the WWE product for the last few years. Do you guys think guys like Balor, Owens, Roode etc wish they could have stayed in NXT ? How do you guys feel about NXT vs WWE in terms of which product you like better?
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Post by bababooey on Nov 13, 2017 13:18:06 GMT -5
If NXT was a separate company I️ think a case could be made that NXT would be better. However, NXT is a feeder system for WWE. It’s a place where WWE puts people to either get ready for the main roster or get other people ready for the main roster.
If the goal is to keep someone in NXT there is no point in pushing them hard or investing time and money in them.
An MLB team wouldn’t sign a big time player and put a lot into him if the intention is to keep him in Triple A.
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Post by J12 on Nov 13, 2017 14:25:13 GMT -5
When most of those guys were in NXT, we didn't have a few years of lackluster call-ups souring our outlook on main roster transitions. It's hard to ask talent to stay down in NXT when most of them are making significantly less money when they're down there (with few exceptions.) Ultimately, the goal is always a main roster contract with main roster payday and bonuses.
As far as which product I enjoy more, I think weekly NXT has taken a pretty dramatic dip in the last year and a half or so. I'm not as into most of the talent as I was in the "heyday" (2015), but it's still a logically sound, well-booked product. Now, as far as special events go, I think NXT blows WWE out of the water. Takeover is consistently a better product than its main roster Pay-Per-View counterpart. I think the two best Takeovers this year (Chicago & Brooklyn III) have been better than every main roster PPV this year.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Nov 13, 2017 14:27:02 GMT -5
I used to love NXT and would watch it on a weekly basis but once Nakamura got called up I haven’t cared for it ever since. I’ll watch the TakeOvers but I can’t sit through an episode, there’s just not many people I care for in there ever since Finn, Joe, Nakamura etc left. As for do I think if anyone wishes they stayed in NXT? Nope, not at all. Who’s really going to sign with WWE and hope to stay in their developmental system? lol
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Post by The American Nightmare on Nov 13, 2017 15:08:29 GMT -5
When most of those guys were in NXT, we didn't have a few years of lackluster call-ups souring our outlook on main roster transitions. It's hard to ask talent to stay down in NXT when most of them are making significantly less money when they're down there (with few exceptions.) Ultimately, the goal is always a main roster contract with main roster payday and bonuses. As far as which product I enjoy more, I think weekly NXT has taken a pretty dramatic dip in the last year and a half or so. I'm not as into most of the talent as I was in the "heyday" (2015), but it's still a logically sound, well-booked product. Now, as far as special events go, I think NXT blows WWE out of the water. Takeover is consistently a better product than its main roster Pay-Per-View counterpart. I think the two best Takeovers this year (Chicago & Brooklyn III) have been better than every main roster PPV this year. That's really the big thing to me. NXT has it's PPVs booked properly. They matches they set up are slow built, and they mean something. I'm an Adam Cole mark, so I have loved all of the Undisputed Era stuff, but I agree since Shinsuke came up the week to week has been -as- good. Now, that being said, the build up for War Games = Gold, pure gold. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 15:35:39 GMT -5
I Love NXT, though their champion is boring as piss.
Give the belt to the Velveteen Dream.
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Post by King Richius on Nov 13, 2017 15:59:59 GMT -5
If NXT was a separate company I️ think a case could be made that NXT would be better. However, NXT is a feeder system for WWE. It’s a place where WWE puts people to either get ready for the main roster or get other people ready for the main roster. If the goal is to keep someone in NXT there is no point in pushing them hard or investing time and money in them. An MLB team wouldn’t sign a big time player and put a lot into him if the intention is to keep him in Triple A. Tim Tebow says hello. But yeah, I get your point and agree. People get so caught in the fact that NXT is a great product of its own and forget that it is and will always be the WWE DEVELOPMENTAL promotion. If getting to teh top of the NXT mountain is all a wrestler wants, they'd be better off staying in ROH or NJPW or where ever they came from. |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Nov 13, 2017 16:15:18 GMT -5
When most of those guys were in NXT, we didn't have a few years of lackluster call-ups souring our outlook on main roster transitions. It's hard to ask talent to stay down in NXT when most of them are making significantly less money when they're down there (with few exceptions.) Ultimately, the goal is always a main roster contract with main roster payday and bonuses. As far as which product I enjoy more, I think weekly NXT has taken a pretty dramatic dip in the last year and a half or so. I'm not as into most of the talent as I was in the "heyday" (2015), but it's still a logically sound, well-booked product. Now, as far as special events go, I think NXT blows WWE out of the water. Takeover is consistently a better product than its main roster Pay-Per-View counterpart. I think the two best Takeovers this year (Chicago & Brooklyn III) have been better than every main roster PPV this year. That's really the big thing to me. NXT has it's PPVs booked properly. They matches they set up are slow built, and they mean something. I'm an Adam Cole mark, so I have loved all of the Undisputed Era stuff, but I agree since Shinsuke came up the week to week has been -as- good. Now, that being said, the build up for War Games = Gold, pure gold. WWE PPVs would be built up the same way if they had 5 PPVs this year too as opposed to 16. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Nov 13, 2017 16:27:44 GMT -5
That's really the big thing to me. NXT has it's PPVs booked properly. They matches they set up are slow built, and they mean something. I'm an Adam Cole mark, so I have loved all of the Undisputed Era stuff, but I agree since Shinsuke came up the week to week has been -as- good. Now, that being said, the build up for War Games = Gold, pure gold. WWE PPVs would be built up the same way if they had 5 PPVs this year too as opposed to 16. It's nice to think that'd be the case, but it really wouldn't. WWE would do a two month build to an Orton vs Owens PPV match by having Orton vs Owens six times on TV in the months beforehand. NXT has the luxury of not chasing ratings and not having to come up with two/three/four main event segments every episode like the main shows, so they don't use everyone every week or burn out all the top matches. To the OP: Owens, Balor and co staying in NXT wasn't feasible. They were on big money contracts, which means they had to be put in a position to draw money at some point. NXT is a huge money loser, so it'd be wasteful to sign them and keep them there. |
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Post by marino13 on Nov 13, 2017 18:02:52 GMT -5
I think NXT benefits from having less TV time to write. But I do think they write better characters there too. Look at how beloved Sami Zayn was during his run for the title. Look at how we are invested in Johnny Gargano & Tommaso Ciampa. They build the underdog far better than the main roster. Maybe Vince just doesn't resonate with underdogs?
One problem I have with NXT is (besides Asuka) talent drops a couple matches before being called up. It makes sense when they're leaving the company. It made plenty of sense during the Monday Night Wars. But it doesn't make sense for NXT into WWE. We saw Nakamura & Finn both lose several matches before going to WWE. Losing these farewell matches almost takes the shine off of them before they ever debut on the main roster. IMO this is something that needs to change for the betterment of the talent.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Nov 13, 2017 19:11:47 GMT -5
NXT had it's Attitude Era when Balor, Nakamura, Joe, Roode, Zayn, Enzo and Cass, Owens etc where in it but now all those guys are gone and it's just not as exciting as it used to be.
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Post by bababooey on Nov 13, 2017 21:21:45 GMT -5
I️ also feel like a lot of people feel like they prefer NXT because of the airtime.
NXT has 1 hour to fill per week. Main roster has 5 if you just watch RAW and Smackdown. NXT leaves people wanting more and guys can get cycled through week in and week out. Main roster gets to feel like torture because they are just trying to fill time and everyone is overexposed.
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Post by Nivro™ on Nov 13, 2017 23:28:18 GMT -5
NXT just feels special when I watch it. I rarely have time to sit and watch the hour long show every week but when there is a Takeover event, I rarely have watched the build up but I find the show to be amazing. The main roster just isnt like that. RAW & SD are just snoozers any more. RAW more so because it feels like it goes on forever. SD is probably the better of the two shows but they lost so much after the shakeup it just doesnt seem as good. By the time a PPV comes around Im burned out on it and its just on for background noise more then anything.
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Nov 15, 2017 13:49:53 GMT -5
NXT vs WWE would be different. But NXT is still kind of WWE's developmental territory and if they book NXT to lose, it would make NXT look less stronger than it already is. If WWE booked NXT to win against WWE, that would be a different story; NXT would look stronger than ever.
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Post by PVA on Nov 18, 2017 16:18:41 GMT -5
I used to love NXT and would watch it on a weekly basis but once Nakamura got called up I haven’t cared for it ever since. I’ll watch the TakeOvers but I can’t sit through an episode, there’s just not many people I care for in there ever since Finn, Joe, Nakamura etc left. As for do I think if anyone wishes they stayed in NXT? Nope, not at all. Who’s really going to sign with WWE and hope to stay in their developmental system? lol Yeah NXT was great weekly for awhile there but after the raid from the main roster. Just the Takeovers for me unless I am bored wed night. Sami, Owens, Finn, nakamura, alpha males, revival, four horse women , asuka etc.....were great in nxt |
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Post by James St. James on Nov 18, 2017 18:28:37 GMT -5
NXT doesnt have 20 minute Stephanie McMahon promos so it wins.
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Post by AV1 on Nov 20, 2017 9:57:59 GMT -5
Once someone has been in NXT for a year or so they will move up to the main roster and someone will take their place. This cycle keeps it constantly fresh and you don’t have the problem of creative finding something to do with someone once they lose the title.
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Post by bigshab421 on Nov 20, 2017 11:19:15 GMT -5
NXT just feels special when I watch it. I rarely have time to sit and watch the hour long show every week but when there is a Takeover event, I rarely have watched the build up but I find the show to be amazing. The main roster just isnt like that. RAW & SD are just snoozers any more. RAW more so because it feels like it goes on forever. SD is probably the better of the two shows but they lost so much after the shakeup it just doesnt seem as good. By the time a PPV comes around Im burned out on it and its just on for background noise more then anything. Bingo, I honestly watch clips of NXT and rarely if ever watch the whole episode. But I find myself more invested and interested in NXT than WWE. You know why? Unpredictability. Also, I feel as though the transition of NXT guys to WWE often fumbles because WWE expects the majority of their fans to know these guys before they come to the main roster but in actuality, many don't. Look at American Alpha, the goofy promos that made them fan favorites and their journey to the top was never seen on the main roster. Imagine how hard Almas is going to struggle on the main roster.....They told his redemption story arc already in NXT and when he is promoted he will be just another "former NXT champion." |
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Post by The American Nightmare on Nov 21, 2017 14:01:58 GMT -5
NXT doesnt have 20 minute Stephanie McMahon promos so it wins. Amen brother! |
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