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Post by vampiroporvida on Nov 13, 2017 14:57:42 GMT -5
Hello all, I was wondering what you all prefer, physical or digital (books, music, movies, etc.), and why? Would there be something that could draw you to the other side? What problems do you see with only having one or the other? Any way we can make both physical and digital better coexist?
I thought this might be time to bring this question up, seeing such a ubiquitous use of streaming, online rentals, store closings, availability of physical releases, and the threat of EMP from N. Korea to the U.S.
Thank you all. Will post my views soon.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Nov 14, 2017 15:27:28 GMT -5
Hello all, I was wondering what you all prefer, physical or digital (books, music, movies, etc.), and why? Would there be something that could draw you to the other side? What problems do you see with only having one or the other? Any way we can make both physical and digital better coexist? I thought this might be time to bring this question up, seeing such a ubiquitous use of streaming, online rentals, store closings, availability of physical releases, and the threat of EMP from N. Korea to the U.S. Thank you all. Will post my views soon. VPV Tag: @3nwpro It depends on the type of media for me. I've been streaming music for years. I've only had one instance of Spotify dropping an album I really love and it was back within a few months. And if there's something I really love that they get rid of our just don't have, I can but the album digitally (or dust off my CD collection and rip them to a computer) and add them to my account. Movies and TV are more hit or miss. I've tried several streaming services -- Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Funimation Now, Shudder, etc -- and I'm happy with them for the most part. I've discovered all kinds of things that I never would have seen without these services but it is really frustrating when I can't get something that I want to watch. For example, over Halloween I wanted to watch the original Dawn of the Dead. I was able to watch Night of the Living Dead, Day of the Dead and TWO versions of the Dawn remake were available but not the original. Overall I prefer streaming, but it does have some major downsides. I exclusively read digital books. I wouldn't read as much as I did if it weren't for ebooks.
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Post by King Richius on Nov 14, 2017 15:33:09 GMT -5
Music hasn't been the same since the demise of the vinyl album. Awesome album artwork, full lyrics for those who cared, and novel length liner notes added so much to the experience.
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Post by RSCTom on Nov 14, 2017 16:01:29 GMT -5
Music is definitely digital for me, but I still buy/download mp3's and put everything on a 5th generation iPod.
I love streaming services for an easy option but I still have a movie collection and still add to it. I don't want to have to have 10 different subscriptions to have access to different things I want to watch and it's just going to go up and up and there will be more and more from here.
I'm also kind of a freak about having space not taken up by physical things but dvd/blu ray/ even some VHS where it's otherwise impossible to get are the exception for me. That's also because I'm a movie buff/film major tho.
I think as said above it just comes down to preference. If you like to collect things it's one thing but I have this overwhelming fear that some day some of these movies we own won't be accessible on a streaming service because of a rights issue or something and some do tend to just disappear off the face of the Earth all together (Amazon is actually really good about having great streaming transfers of obscure titles).
Books I'm indifferent as it's fun to read a physical copy but the practicality of a Kindle/reader (which isn't wrapped up in the same type of rights issues as many movies are, at least as far as I know as a not-so-avid reader) can't be beat. That having been said I don't own a digital reader.
We live in the wild west of digital!!!
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Post by BSR on Nov 15, 2017 1:52:48 GMT -5
When it comes to music I sometimes buy digital and physical. Depends on the bandphinehas for example made a ton off of me this month with dark flag.
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Post by IRS on Nov 15, 2017 2:11:49 GMT -5
Music is probably the one thing I'll get digitally. The rest of the time, I stick to physical.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 3:33:37 GMT -5
Hello all, I was wondering what you all prefer, physical or digital (books, music, movies, etc.), and why? Would there be something that could draw you to the other side? What problems do you see with only having one or the other? Any way we can make both physical and digital better coexist? I thought this might be time to bring this question up, seeing such a ubiquitous use of streaming, online rentals, store closings, availability of physical releases, and the threat of EMP from N. Korea to the U.S. Thank you all. Will post my views soon. VPV Tag: @3nwpro Great stuff as always Sir. Let’s have a look. Hello all, I was wondering what you all prefer, physical or digital (books, music, movies, etc.), and why? As others have said, it depends on what you get, what you use and how you use it. I have an iPod, an iPhone and an iPad - so I lean towards digital for the most part, primarily for music, movies and television. It’s simply a sign of the times. The exception to an extent is comics; while I enjoy reading comics online via ComiXology or Readcomiconline, having a trade paperback is where it’s at for me. Would there be something that could draw you to the other side? Having said that, I have an extensive CD, DVD and Blu-Ray collection of various content - so I feel I already straddle both ‘sides’, even though I’m more inclined to digital for most of my needs. What problems do you see with only having one or the other? I think any problem would stem from the particular interests within the content more than anything, it would depend on what you want I would say. Here in Australia, while we have Netflix and it’s fantastic - we have a “local version” called ‘Stan’, which has different shows but has some crossover with Netflix. We also have Foxtel, which has been the primary pay-TV model in Australia for ages. If you want to watch a certain show and it’s not on Netflix, chances are it’s on Foxtel, which is more expensive. Game of Thrones is the chief culprit here - and I don’t want Foxtel, so I shell out for the DVD boxset instead. I have to wait ages for it and have to avoid spoilers but that’s something that is possible - so again, it all comes down to what you’re after. Space could be an issue too, having too many discs (like me) Any way we can make both physical and digital better coexist? Perspective. It’s all down to the individual and your habits when consuming content. I think right now they exist fine together, but ultimately I can see digital edging ahead as technology continues to evolve. Cheers bud
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Post by Quazimoto on Nov 15, 2017 4:09:34 GMT -5
Both honestly...
I'm in the process of digitizing my entire music, movie, TV show, and wrestling collection with the plan to view everything digitally via a NAS system connected to a raspberry pi running OSMC. However, I do plan on keeping hard copies of everything as well. Just want to have that physical media backup. I will say, however, that I don't care a spit for having full albums or most music (actually made collections of my favorite songs for almost all the artists I had complete with custom album art for that collection) and could not care less about special features for movies. Also don't really care much about packaging for physical media as I store everything in either discsox data disc sleeves or multi-disc CD sized cases with custom (and simplified) artwork so I can easily see what's what if needed. So, basically, I watch or listen to all that digitally, but do still like having the physical media, just in case.
Books are physical all the way. Just not the same reading on a tablet or computer screen and pressing buttons instead of flipping pages.
Video games are a mixed bag. Used to be all physical all the time for games. Lately though, it's just whatever version I can get cheaper.
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Post by Halloween King on Nov 15, 2017 10:18:46 GMT -5
For years I hated the idea of digital media. Mostly because it costs the same, if not more than a physical copy to the customer. Case in point, there are movies you can buy at a 5 dollar bin at Walmart or Target that will prob cost twice as much on amazon. I feel that digital media should be cheaper because it saves the production companys lots of money. All they have to do is upload something instead of having discs produced, and shipped, and placed on shelves. Those savings should be passed on to us customers.
Recently though I've been watching lots of stuff at work on my phone. And I realize that it would be impossible to watch so much content, on the go, with physical media. So I love the convenience.
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 15, 2017 11:12:01 GMT -5
I still prefer physical copies over digital downloads. The movie industry was way ahead of the game by giving us the digital downloads (as long as they were iTunes) with the movies. That's the best case scenario imo. I have the physical copy on my shelf and then the digital download for my phone.
I have zero issue with listening to Spotify at work everyday, but that's not stuff I own. If I actually want to own music I go buy the CD and upload it to iTunes (or get the CD for free because I bought concert tickets, which is an awesome thing now). I think music is different for those of us who were that first wave of Limewire kids and on. Even still, we put that stuff onto CDs after we downloaded it(32 hours for 12 songs, what what).
I'm still not onboard the digital downloads for video games. I think that's a sh*t gimmick industry if I've ever seen one. All of the "digital downloads" of PS1 games I bought on my PS3 are stuck on my PS3. So if I want them on PS4 I have to buy them over again. So yeah... that's some bullsh*t. It would be totally different if they were remastered, but they're not, just rescaled.
I still don't associate digital with ownership. It feels temporary and like something I don't own. Maybe that's a silly mindset, and reflective of growing up in different times, but that's how I feel. I definitely feel that way with comics. If I just want to read something I don't mind digital. If I love it and want it on my shelf though, I don't consider having the digital copy owning the book. But I'm a comic book, and movie, collector, and I just don't think digital ever lives up to the satisfaction of the physical medium.
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Post by J12 on Nov 15, 2017 11:36:11 GMT -5
I go physical all the way with very few exceptions.
I have an extensive movie collection, it's been a hobby of mine for over a decade. I have no problem renting films via streaming platforms, I use Netflix plenty, but when it comes to owning, I will not pay for digital copies. I buy physical disks only. The reason for that is two-fold. First and foremost, I see it as a better value. I like tangible assets - I like the cover art, the slipcovers, and the appearance of having a collection. In a more practical sense, the quality is superior. I realize we're getting to a point of parity between the two when you download the films you own, but streaming is still nowhere near the level of physical media. If you have a high-end display, especially, the contrast is even more stark. I also find that, given how diligent I am in getting good prices, it's cheaper to buy physical media.
With music, I have no qualms buying digital copies if that's the only way the album is released. When I have a choice, though, I always go physical. Again, I like having the tangible album artwork in my hand and I like having the freedom to rip the CD as many times and in as many formats as I may choose. I do load all of my music onto an iPod, but I like having the physical media to fall back on.
With games, I'm a little more lenient, but it's more of a cost thing. I might pick up an older title that's dirt cheap via PSN/Xbox Live during one of their big sales. Usually it's a game I'm peripherally interested in, but wouldn't spend $15-$20 to buy a physical copy. Most of the time, though, I purchase physical.
I also prefer reading books as opposed to using an e-reader, though I'm occasionally tempted to pick up a Kindle Paperwhite. Again, I like having a physical book in hand.
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Post by IRS on Nov 15, 2017 12:01:59 GMT -5
I still prefer physical copies over digital downloads. The movie industry was way ahead of the game by giving us the digital downloads (as long as they were iTunes) with the movies. That's the best case scenario imo. I have the physical copy on my shelf and then the digital download for my phone. I have zero issue with listening to Spotify at work everyday, but that's not stuff I own. If I actually want to own music I go buy the CD and upload it to iTunes (or get the CD for free because I bought concert tickets, which is an awesome thing now). I think music is different for those of us who were that first wave of Limewire kids and on. Even still, we put that stuff onto CDs after we downloaded it(32 hours for 12 songs, what what). I'm still not onboard the digital downloads for video games. I think that's a sh*t gimmick industry if I've ever seen one. All of the "digital downloads" of PS1 games I bought on my PS3 are stuck on my PS3. So if I want them on PS4 I have to buy them over again. So yeah... that's some bullsh*t. It would be totally different if they were remastered, but they're not, just rescaled. I still don't associate digital with ownership. It feels temporary and like something I don't own. Maybe that's a silly mindset, and reflective of growing up in different times, but that's how I feel. I definitely feel that way with comics. If I just want to read something I don't mind digital. If I love it and want it on my shelf though, I don't consider having the digital copy owning the book. But I'm a comic book, and movie, collector, and I just don't think digital ever lives up to the satisfaction of the physical medium.
That's precisely my biggest problem with digital. That, and it kinda feels like it could disappear at any second to me. Whereas, with a DVD or CD, I know that nothing is going to prevent me from using it - short of breaking it or being robbed. Not to mention, buying the physical copy affords you the option to make a digital backup if you want to anyways. And then there's the whole ability to resell it, which you can't do with digital. It just feels like the far superior medium, imo - even if digital can provide a touch more convenience.
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Post by TurboEddie on Nov 15, 2017 13:32:16 GMT -5
Physical media. Digital is less reliable, and I like to display things.
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Post by vampiroporvida on Nov 15, 2017 15:55:57 GMT -5
Thank you all for posting replies. Seems to be a topic people have an opinion on. I see a lot of what I was going to say in here, especially since I am a physical media supporter, barely anything digital. One glaring ommision is physical music (cd and cassette, and a little vinyl for me), normally, has better sound, be it your preference of vinyl, cassette, cd, or 8 track. Plus there is the intangible experience of buying it, flipping through the booklet, popping it on, and immersing yourself in it. There is the added wall/table decor aspect for the kids and oldschoolers. Now, we all know the benefits of having a companion digital side, which is perfect to fill the gaps, give more access to people in other countries (some), and adjust for taste and portability, but it is encroaching much too far as to become harmful. In my opinion, physical needs to stay the primary for a multitude of reasons. Imagine an all digital world: Digital has already replaced physical so much, it has caused me, and surely others in small towns, more isolation. I have hardly anwhere to go in town anymore, of any interest, making me more of a hermit and less people to associate with. Isolation for big swaths of the population can cause restfulness, sadness, and potential lawlessness (wild n out), as the past has shown. Physical media needs more than to exist online, as well, as rental stores, cd shops, and arcades (for the vg heads and mallrats like myself) gave not just a place to go, but community havens for conversation, debate, safe fun, and places to make friends. Even digitally, forums, the internet equivalent to these places, are disappearing. Too, no digital platform can show you the vast array of titles and artwork and make you care. I once read, digital, alone, leaves out a section of the world's population whom can't afford high speed internet, don't have access, are elderly, or uniformed and not as tech savy. Entertainment, or art, is for everyone. punksnotdead , IRS and TurboEddie said it already, but it cannot be stressed enough. Digital can all go bye-bye in an instant. Maybe not all, but in a lot of cases where a company loses rights to a title, goes out of business, etc., you get burned. If it is stored on your harddrive in a non-proprietary format, you might still have it. You don't really own the material, ay a certain point. Digital only gives the corporation or owner of the material too much control over the consumer. No more buying/selling used to save money, and in games specifically, no more taking them and playing at a friend's house (I am aware of online play). They are able to dictate your use down to a minute degree. When physical ruled the roost, they had to play ball to an extent, and we had many more benefits than today. I leave the threat of an EMP for last, as it is quite imperative that we heed the warning and back the internet and media of the past, present, and future to books, hand writings, and a non-magnetic storage system like a cd for preservation of our collective knowledge and works. If an EMP hits, all digital info, if not backed up, autonomously, out of the affected zone, and even then if the infrustructure is down, we lose everything. Could we rebuild? We need to backup propietary info ala trade secrects to writings, to make sure we can get the infrastructure and necessary life components back, net loss of 0 for current day life, and back up everything else musically, non-printed books, videos, games, etc. to a non-magnetic format and then restore them after everything is back up and running. I hope this wasn't tl;dr for most people. Thank you all for your input. @3nwpro glad you jumped in buddy. Much respect to you all. VPV
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Post by ahunter8056 on Nov 15, 2017 16:07:44 GMT -5
No matter what the product, I will always much prefer a physical product over a digital product.
I just like having nice things to look at. Whether it's cover art, a booklet, or whatever, I just like to see it. If it's a game, I want to look at the cover, look at the back, and read the manual. If it's a DVD/Blu-Ray, then I want to look at the cover and the back. Likewise for a book.
When it comes to HD video, a Blu-Ray will always be significantly superior quality to a streamed video.
I don't know if it's just me, but I cannot read an ebook for an extended period of time. I just lose interest fairly quickly, whereas I don't tend to do it that much with a physical book. I don't know why, but I just do.
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Post by Suckasays on Nov 15, 2017 17:31:44 GMT -5
I've dang near went full on digital with movies. I love vudu.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Nov 16, 2017 18:38:15 GMT -5
Physical media for me. To me it all comes down to ownership. If I buy a movie, game, or book through a digital service I'm stuck with it. But by purchasing physical media, if the time comes that I want to part ways with it, I know that I'll get something back from it. And in some cases I'll get more than what I originally purchased it for in the case of say Rule of Rose on the Playstation 2, Dead Alive on Blu-Ray, The Friday the 13th Soundtracks on Vinyl. Or in some cases if I read a book or watch a movie or play a game and want my friends to get the same experience from it that I did, I can easily loan them the physical copy. But is also the collector in me. I collect movies and video games and vinyl. And yes I read, watch, and listen to that stuff. I don't get it to put it away and never be messed with. I do keep everything as close to new as it can be but I do get enjoyment out of it.
Streaming service have there place and I understand why they are popular. I personally have never used a streaming service for music, I only listen to music on vinyl. I have used Netflix and Hulu but this is after I've done extensive research and it's mainly for TV shows. Sometimes I want to watch a TV show all the way through but I don't want own it. So I'll get Netflix for a month or two until I complete the show or shows I want to watch. But at the same time I do own complete runs of TV shows because I know they are not on streaming services or if they are, they are incomplete like Taxi, Wings, Spin City, and Becker. The last two of which are not on any streaming service.
Show me a streaming service for movies that can have films that star Serena Grandi to films directed by Jean-Pierre Melville to films of The Marx Brothers and I'll sign up. Most streaming services I've noticed try to draw you in by having the big Hollywood Blockbusters. I'm not the Hollywood blockbuster type of person. I've read Save the Cat. I like classic films, foreign films, and films with sexy ladies. Sexy ladies in classic foreign films and I'm in heaven.
With books I'm still physical. I don't know how e-readers really work. But I do know, that if there is a quote or something that I need to reference from say Christopher Hitchens, I can go to my books and open it up and I typically put a post it in the front of the book with page numbers with which has the quotes I liked throughout the book. I'm sure there is some other way that you can do that on an e-reader.
As for the EMP...I won't get caught up in it. While I do acknowledge that we should use written text as a way to preserve everything and not rely so heavily on digital, I don't think that North Korea would actually pull something off. I could be convinced otherwise but...yeah I've seen and heard a lot over the years.
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Post by Brad on Nov 21, 2017 4:54:48 GMT -5
Definitely physical media. I just can't get myself to go digital.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Nov 21, 2017 5:22:08 GMT -5
Physical, by a mile. I like looking at the cover artwork and read the liner notes of a CD and appreciating the effort that has gone into it. You don't get that from a digital copy. I also like to see my building collection of CDs and blu rays.
That being said, I'll still use Netflix to watch TV shows though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 6:20:55 GMT -5
The only CDs I really buy these days are Big Finish audio dramas, and it makes sense to pay the extra £5 and get the CD AND the download. Plus, the artwork on the CDs is bloody beautiful.
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