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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Dec 31, 2017 11:34:44 GMT -5
I honestly don't get how ending the streak was giving back to the business. Undertaker is a draw who has sold tickets and brought in ratings so surely that is giving to the business.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Dec 31, 2017 11:36:43 GMT -5
Cena should’ve ended the streak. On Cena’s 1st night in wwe Undertaker shook his hand and said he was gonna be something special one day, imagine if that would’ve come full circle I always thought Cena should of broke it if it had to be broken. He could of won underhandedly and they could of had him turn heel. I’m not a person who constantly is clamoring for Cena to turn heel. But it would of been epic. yeah I don’t think they should turn cena heel, but that would define be the way to do it
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Post by hbkjason on Dec 31, 2017 12:24:55 GMT -5
At the time it happened,I remember some people saying that they did not like it, but they "understood why the WWE did it"
Well all these years later and I still do not know why they did it. You could argue that had Randy Orton went over him at WrestleMania 21 that it would have made sense and elevated Orton as the real Legend Killer, but Brock Lesnar??? WTF did that achieve apart from a bunch of grown men with a forced look of shock on their face which is now so overdone on live WWE programming I get a headache from rolling my eyes at it everytime it happens.
The Streak was one of the last true good things left in wrestling and they pissed it away for nothing.
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Dec 31, 2017 14:36:40 GMT -5
Nothing. It was only done for shock value and should have never been broken in the first place. i completey agree, im just interested in what others thought, if anyone thought it really did anything positive in the long run It didn’t really have any benefit in the long run imo. It gave Brock extra credibility to put over Roman(which didn’t happen) and it gave WWE a “WrestleMania Moment” to put in the hype packages every year.
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Post by TurboEddie on Dec 31, 2017 15:54:37 GMT -5
Let’s get real, The Streak only ended to sell WWE Network subscriptions.
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Post by tg11 on Dec 31, 2017 16:47:57 GMT -5
The streak only shouldve ended if it was Undertaker's FINAL match and it shouldve been to either John Cena if he was going to turn heel or Roman Reigns My exact thoughts too in the sense that the streak should have ended only if The Undertaker was for sure going to retire. Now as for who should have been The One to end it? I would have went with Cena or Reigns preferably Cena though.
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Post by TheLastDude on Dec 31, 2017 21:33:03 GMT -5
The ONLY way the Streak should have ended was if Taker himself had said he was done for good. I didn't like the fact that Bock defeated him, merely because I don't know if Brock appreciates the severity of it. I hope I'm wrong but, I fear that type of thing means s**t to Brock. Plus you never know with Brock. He could have bailed on them shortly after and it all would have been for nothing. Last year I had less of an issue with Roman winning for two reasons. First, the bloom is already off the rose. Streaks over, so it meant a lot less. And two, Taker's age finally caught up with him. He looked old, he looked sore, and he looked tired. I love having him around, but I pray he doesn't come back for one more. The only way I would like him to come back would be if they striped away the Deadman gimmick. No more powers. Just have him as a man who has moved on to the next chapter in his life. But (let's say Owens) won't leave him be. He bothers him at home. He attacks him while he's out to eat with his family. He's poking the bear at every chance he can. Build him up like Logan. After all the abuse finally the old man Mark comes back to make his last stand. Just my opinion though. Perfectly summed up.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Dec 31, 2017 22:11:17 GMT -5
I don't think it was a matter of giving back to the business. I think McMahon was tired of it. We've heard countless stories about how Bundy was going to end it in 95, or how if Nash stayed he would have ended it, or how Taker was lobbying for Brock to end it before he actually did. If you want to believe JR, he said that Brock was against beating Taker but that the call was already made. I know I'm in the minority of people that never really cared for The Streak though.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Jan 1, 2018 8:34:44 GMT -5
I'm just glad Lesnar did it rather than ing reigns. Undertaker is my all time fave and I would like to have seen him ride into the sunset undefeated at Mania, but it wasnt to be. I justify it by putting it this way, Ric Flair was retired, a whole career wrapped up, by Shawn Michaels who didnt need the rub just like Lesnar ended Undertakers WM hype and didnt need the rub. WWE doesnt make sense, if we start questioning it too much, everything falls apart, and nothing is fun anymore.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jan 1, 2018 14:53:20 GMT -5
Oh boy, after reading all of the responses, wow!
To those who feel Brock Lesnar wasn't a made man, he was during his 2002-2004 run. When you allow Lesnar to go over The Rock, Undertaker, and Kurt Angle. It speaks volumes of how they made Lesnar look at the time. Lesnar's match at No Mercy 2002 against The Undertaker solidified his status at a main event level draw. The issue with Lesnar when he came back in 2012 was he jobbed to John Cena out of the gate. Up to WrestleMania XXX, they did a lot of damage to Lesnar by having him lose to Cena and Triple H. I believe Jim Ross when he said that Lesnar wasn't comfortable ending The Streak. While I agree said streak made WrestleMania exciting, it came to an end out of shock value.
I don't think the WWE had major plans for Roman Reigns at the time. Considering it was before The Shield disbanded. The wheels got in motion for Reigns months after 'Mania XXX. It was a benefit that Seth Rollins had his Money In The Bank contract leading into WrestleMania XXXI. Why, you delayed Reign's eventual first World Title reign, established a new heel champion, and Lesnar didn't have to take the job. I wished people could just accept that Reigns is "The Chosen One." Reigns works his ass off and knows how to tell a story in the ring.
If 'Taker's streak was intact leading into WrestleMania XXXIII and Reigns defeating him, it would have made more sense. Granted it was a sad match to watch but it was where storytelling came into the picture. I was okay with Roman going over. Case in point, The Streak ending would have made more sense as a passing of the torch moment rather than being used for shock value. Looking back at WrestleMania XXX, I would have done Cena/Taker and a rematch with Lesnar and CM Punk.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jan 1, 2018 16:59:48 GMT -5
Yeah.. honestly if anyone says Brock wasn't a made man before he broke the streak you must not have any clue about who Brock is or his accomplishments.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jan 1, 2018 17:30:47 GMT -5
To ultimately make Roman look strong.
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Post by King of Kings on Jan 1, 2018 17:34:12 GMT -5
They did it fairly, Imo
The guy who beat the streak, and the guy who retired the deadman. Two important milestones came out of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 16:55:07 GMT -5
Going into Wrestlemania nobody thought Brock would break the streak. In years prior there were always people that believed it could be the year. Brock looked pretty meh from Extreme Rules 2012 up until that point. So saying that he didn’t need it seems a little crazy.
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Post by k5 on Jan 2, 2018 17:20:02 GMT -5
i think it all went awesomely - only thing I would change would have been for undertaker to have finished his career there. But that’s not my choice.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 2, 2018 17:41:25 GMT -5
Anyone remember when people claimed Vince had the streak ended to spite the fans for making him put Daniel Bryan in the main event!?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 17:46:45 GMT -5
Anyone remember when people claimed Vince had the streak ended to spite the fans for making him put Daniel Bryan in the main event!? Everything is a C-O-N-Spiracy!
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