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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 18:15:15 GMT -5
We're all social creatures of course, and I was recently studying up on what makes humans "tick." This ended up bringing me to Abraham Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Back in '43, the famous psychologist put together a pyramid of just what exactly our species needs, from most important at the bottom (food, shelter, water, etc.), going up from there... Third on this pyramid is "love and belonging." This got me to thinking - obviously we humans NEED love and belonging, no doubt about that. We need families, groups/tribes, romantic love, and everything else similar. But do some of us think we have it, but don't? Imagine your group of friends or "tribe" - you guys help each other out. But, what if you realized you were only part of that group because you pretended to act a certain way? Or, what if you had a piece of information about your life that, if you told them, would exclude you from the group? As long as the information is kept secret, you remain part of the tribe of course. Or do you? Are you really in the group? Or, carry that to the idea of someone who loves you and you love, with the same questions. They love you as long as they don't know certain bits of information about your life history, or because you play a "certain character" around them (the Cobain quote "I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I am not" comes to mind). Is the love REAL then? Maybe it depends on the person. Some people would still consider the love or place in the group to be REAL even considering the above, some wouldn't. Oh Maslow, so many questions come out of your magic pyramid...
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Post by King Richius on Jan 11, 2018 18:33:29 GMT -5
There is only one unconditional love in the world: that of a dog for its master. I am not a dog person but even I can see that a dog will follow its master to hell and back no questions asked. My cats wouldn't even follow me from one room to another unless there is food or laser pointer involved.
IMHO humans are only capable of conditional love. We all have expectations and take it personal when they aren't met. Even family bonds can be broken, hence divorce and families that don't get together for months if not years.
That's my deep thought for the day.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Jan 11, 2018 22:25:02 GMT -5
Back in '43 WWII was going on. Meanwhile Abraham, your guru was making pyramids. Sounds like he was a draft dodger to me.
Interesting that he's writing about how we need love, belonging and safety at a time when people where being blown to bits.
If you want to be a sheep, you follow the rules of that pyramid. Just like soldiers followed their higher ranking Generals pyramids straight into hell.
The problem with pyramids is that when you have a steady foundation, you should just stop. Dont keep building and adding layers and layers.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Jan 12, 2018 12:49:05 GMT -5
Back in '43 WWII was going on. Meanwhile Abraham, your guru was making pyramids. Sounds like he was a draft dodger to me. Interesting that he's writing about how we need love, belonging and safety at a time when people where being blown to bits. If you want to be a sheep, you follow the rules of that pyramid. Just like soldiers followed their higher ranking Generals pyramids straight into hell. The problem with pyramids is that when you have a steady foundation, you should just stop. Dont keep building and adding layers and layers. He was ineligible for the draft, so I would suggest doing some research before you start criticizing things you don't understand.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Jan 12, 2018 17:42:01 GMT -5
Back in '43 WWII was going on. Meanwhile Abraham, your guru was making pyramids. Sounds like he was a draft dodger to me. Interesting that he's writing about how we need love, belonging and safety at a time when people where being blown to bits. If you want to be a sheep, you follow the rules of that pyramid. Just like soldiers followed their higher ranking Generals pyramids straight into hell. The problem with pyramids is that when you have a steady foundation, you should just stop. Dont keep building and adding layers and layers. He was ineligible for the draft, so I would suggest doing some research before you start criticizing things you don't understand. I was joking.
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Post by Taylor on Jan 13, 2018 13:43:40 GMT -5
Interesting thread. I think most of these things we, as humans, focus on as a marker for 'happiness'. The one that is pretty telling is 'to make a difference'. How do we make a difference to those around us.
Very valid discussion as to whether people are in groups due to who they are or more so who they portray themselves to be.
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