becks007
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Post by becks007 on Apr 9, 2018 6:41:25 GMT -5
I still think that they wanna have Brock surpass the 434 days reign of CM Punk. 434 days is a record for the WWE Championship, not the Universal Championship. Two different titles and lineage. As it stands, Lesnar is the longest reigning Universal champion.
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Post by blissfan4life on Apr 9, 2018 6:46:03 GMT -5
Why on earth do they insist on keeping Lesnar Champion? does he have embarrassing photos of Vince or something? is this crap reign ever gonna end?
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Post by tg11 on Apr 9, 2018 6:47:27 GMT -5
Yes Lesnar is the longest reigning champion in WWE right now but at the same time I would rather not have the title on every week especially if Reigns is the champion. If it was anyone else in Reigns' position then yeah I would want the title off of Brock. However, it looks like Brock is staying because if he were gone for sure they would have had him drop the title. If Lesnar was going back to the UFC he wouldn't be WWE Universal Champion right now. Furthermore, it tells me that WWE managed to re-sign Brock at the very last minute.
I think we get Lesnar/Lashley at some point but as for when is anyone's guess.
The Greatest Royal Rumble on April 27th as far as a PPV makes me wonder if either Brock will drop the title there in Saudi Arabia or if we don't see Brock until at least SummerSlam 2018.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 6:55:16 GMT -5
pretty decent Mania actually and the chitshow on twitter when Jinder won the title was and is GLORIOUS my boy Jinder, all grown up... Bitch tits and all.
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Post by tarver89 on Apr 9, 2018 6:59:33 GMT -5
I still think that they wanna have Brock surpass the 434 days reign of CM Punk. 434 days is a record for the WWE Championship, not the Universal Championship. Two different titles and lineage. As it stands, Lesnar is the longest reigning Universal champion. And you think they really care about this separation? They will announce him as the longest reining champion in the modern era.
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Post by tg11 on Apr 9, 2018 6:59:54 GMT -5
Rewatching WrestleMania 34 on The Network right now
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Apr 9, 2018 7:04:30 GMT -5
This is one of the bes - No. This is the best Wrestlemania theres ever been. I've never had more fun watching a wrestling match than I did with the Mixed Tag match. Ronda looked impressive for what she done. She genuinely looks happy as to be out there and that makes it even better.
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Post by robbutler01 on Apr 9, 2018 7:09:08 GMT -5
This is one of the bes - No. This is the best Wrestlemania theres ever been. Sorry but that statement is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard in over 30 years watching wrestling!
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Post by tg11 on Apr 9, 2018 7:14:23 GMT -5
Ronda Rousey actually looked good out there last night and to think she was out there with a WWE Hall of Famer as her tag team partner. However, Triple H and Stephanie did look good. They basically made Ronda look like a million bucks. This basically puts Ronda over huge and it seems WWE is going to make Ronda the focal point of the Women's Division. If that is the case then you may as well skyrocket her straight towards the RAW Women's Championship.
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Post by tg11 on Apr 9, 2018 7:17:36 GMT -5
John Cena vs Undertaker underwhelmed me so much as a fan and why? The match felt so rushed and it felt so damn short. Cena barely got in any offense at all and it was like a squash match for Taker. If you are going to build this up at least make this match a classic and have the match be back and forth. I mean my God this match sucked and honestly this match should have happened at WrestleMania 32 if not way back at WrestleMania 30.
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Post by Will on Apr 9, 2018 7:42:40 GMT -5
Apparently Nicholas is referee John Crone's son. Everyone knows him and was congratulating him in the back. Awesome
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Post by Bandalero on Apr 9, 2018 7:47:58 GMT -5
Overall I think the PPV was fun; it was a better WrestleMania than the ones in recent years - but yes 7 hours is way too long.
Rousey did much better than I expected, but there's definitely work to be done. Maybe she might be like Kurt Angle and take to the ring like it was second nature - for now she shows loads of potential and her stock just increased in the eyes of the office and the fans. I'd suggest she go bare-feet like UFC or get a costume overhaul. Her pulling down her tights and fixing her tank top through out the match was distracting for the wrong reasons.
On another note:
I know Owens vs Zayn is the storybook rivalry all smarks love (and they will eventually break up to renew this rivalry), but give me Ciampa vs Gargano any day of the week and twice on Sundays please.
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Post by tg11 on Apr 9, 2018 7:47:59 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan looked like he hadn't missed a step and it almost brought a tear to my eye considering the last time Bryan was in a WrestleMania ring in New Orleans the Miracle on Bourbon Street happened 4 years ago at WrestleMania 30. Yesterday night when it looked like Bryan was down and out he manages to make the comeback. Bryan came in hot with him and Shane getting the win. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn they will end up on RAW anyway. It is practically inevitable and honestly Kevin Owens for me he never fit on Smackdown Live. Owens was strictly RAW and should have never have left in the first place. However, Zayn never should have turned heel. Furthermore, I will say Zayn now he actually fits the role of a heel. They should keep him heel and if he goes to RAW too then him and Kevin should become RAW Tag Team Champions.
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Post by tg11 on Apr 9, 2018 7:50:09 GMT -5
Shane definitely looked unhealthy but then again diverticulitis is pretty damn serious. I mean if Shane has this illness he should not even be wrestling hell he should not even be on TV period until he deals with his illness.
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Post by tg11 on Apr 9, 2018 7:53:08 GMT -5
Overall I think the PPV was fun; it was a better WrestleMania than the ones in recent years - but yes 7 hours is way too long. Rousey did much better than I expected, but there's definitely work to be done. Maybe she might be like Kurt Angle and take to the ring like it was second nature - for now she shows loads of potential and her stock just increased in the eyes of the office and the fans. I'd suggest she go bare-feet like UFC or get a costume overhaul. Her pulling down her tights and fixing her tank top through out the match was distracting for the wrong reasons. On another note: I know Owens vs Zayn is the storybook rivalry all smarks love (and they will eventually break up to renew this rivalry), but give me Ciampa vs Gargano any day of the week and twice on Sundays please. Owens vs Zayn is practically inevitable at this point
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Post by enigmafigs on Apr 9, 2018 7:59:39 GMT -5
This is one of the bes - No. This is the best Wrestlemania theres ever been. I've never had more fun watching a wrestling match than I did with the Mixed Tag match. Ronda looked impressive for what she done. She genuinely looks happy as to be out there and that makes it even better. Best Mania of all time? This was one of the worst.
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Post by bigshab421 on Apr 9, 2018 8:31:50 GMT -5
My thoughts and reviews of the show:
Kickoff Show
1. Andre the Giant Battle Royal: I am a sucker for battle royals, so this one I enjoyed. I truly liked the ending to this match with Wyatt coming back and helping Hardy. If they keep him face, I will be really intrigued because fans like Bray and if he can pick up some W's that could revitalize his career. Rating 2/5
2. Mustafa Ali v. Cedrick Alexander (CW Title): Really enjoyed this match. Fast action, good spots but I did think the wrong guy won. Loved Ali's tornado DDT and 405 splash. I don't think Cedrick has the mic skills yet, but can bring it in the ring. Hopefully this gave 205 some more exposure. Rating: 3/5
3. Women's Battle Royal: Gotta be honest, I only caught the end because I had to walk the dog, but I was confused as to why Naomi won the thing when she is an afterthought on SDL. Bayley/Sasha had a Mania worthy feud going, and to have them in the final two would have been way better. Really confusing as to why Naomi won this. Rating: 2/5
WrestleMania 34 Main Card
1. Intercontinental Title Match: Really good match. Hard hitting, exciting and the right guy won the damn thing, very un-WWE like. Gotta ask a question though, why did they not have Balor come out with the Demon entrance? Kind of lame if you ask me, I'm not the biggest Balor fan, but I feel like they could have ammped up the psychology if they had him ad the Demon character. Anyways, I really liked the Curb Stomp onto the Miz as the finish. Rating: 3.5/5
2. Asuka v. Charlotte(c): Amazing entrance for Charlotte (love the WM30 nod) and Asuka. Great match, it was hard hitting and action packed. The moonsault into the triangle was crazy, as was the apron suplex. Also the Spanish Fly that almost killed Asuka was incredible, but took my breath away because of how scary it looked (NOTE TO AGENTS, DON'T USE THE SAME HIGH SPOTS TWICE IN ONE NIGHT!). The ending shocked me not because Flair won, but because of how fast Asuka tapped. For how much damage they put Charlotte through, I don't recall Asuka taking as much damage that would cause her to quit so quickly and only to one Figure 8 attempt. That kind of took away from an otherwise amazing match. Rating: 4/5
3. United States Title Match: Fun little match. Did it's job to cool down the crowd from the first two matches. Wrong guy won, even though I love Jinder, Rusev should have won. WWE blatantly sabotages themselves. Unless they turn Rusev full face against Jinder they are blowing a huge opportunity to cash in on Rusev at the peak of his popularity. Rating: 2.5/5
4. Ronda Rousey & Kurt Angle def. Stephanie McMahon & Triple H: MOTN for me personally. Ronda killed it as I knew she would. She is too big a fan, too athletic and too professional to lay an egg. Delivering in your first match at one of the biggest Mania's ever proved she will be worth every dollar they give her. I love Angle but now that he is off pain killers (plus years being on them), you can tell his body is broken down. He didn't hurt the match by any means, but I do hope they give him one more retirement match and that is it. He can't go like he used to and I don't want to see him get hurt or worse. Back to the match, they should have kept Ronda away from Stephanie until the very end. I know it is wrestling, but godamnit don't try to sell me that Stephanie McMahon can defend a Rousey armbar. It is preposterous. I predicted it would end in double submission, but when HHH broke the hold and sent Kurt into Ronda, I totally bought in and thought that the shovel was coming out once again. But the right ending happened and I loved seeing Ronda pepper HHH with punches and then slapping the submission on. Great stuff, hopefully Ronda is around more than Brock. I already love her, and cannot wait to see her develop. Rating: 4.5/5
5. SmackDown Live Tag Title Match: I didn't like that this match was a stick and move fest with ND and Usos trying to thwart Bludgeon Bros. I am sure the rematch or Usos/BB will be really good at the next PPV, but it served its purpose and the right team won. Rating: 2/5
6. John Cena v. The Undertaker: LOVED the story they told, done incredibly well that Cena talked crap, ran his mouth and then froze like a chicken for the first time in his career against the Deadman. I obviously don't agree with Roman going over last year now that Taker returned and Reigns didn't win, but Taker physically looked great and quick, and the match was exactly what it should have been. The story was that Cena learned a lesson to not run his mouth. Rating: 2.5/5
7. Daniel Bryan & Shane McMahon def. Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn: I can honestly say that since I was a 8-11 year old kid with Stone Cold, I have never been more invested in a wrestler than Daniel Bryan. His journey, the injury, and the return has made him one of my top 5 favorites and it was heart warming to see him return because you could actually feel the relief, joy, and excitement of his through the television screen. The match was pretty good stuff. If Shane does in fact have a legitimate hernia, major props to him because I have had two hernia surgeries and hernias make extreme movement nearly impossible, so props to Shane-O. This match it seemed effectively killed the crowd and its no surprise. It was a fun match and I really liked the YES kicks to Sami and Zayn sold the running knee like a champ. Excited to see how Bryan is booked from here on out. My only gripe was that this match should have went on first. Rating: 3.5/5
8. Nia Jax v. Alexa Bliss(c) (RAW Women's Title): I probably enjoyed this more than most people. They told a good story and had a couple good spots. When Bliss smacked Nia, and Nia screamed at her which caused Alexa to scream and run away, I almost spit my drink out. The Twisted Bliss to the floor and Super Samoan drop to muh babygurl Alexa were awesome. Happy for Nia, she's come a long way and intrigued where this goes. The RAW women's division is WAY TO STACKED right now, and with Asuka and Rousey, it may spell a short title reign. Rating: 2.5/5
9. Shinsuke Nakamura v. AJ Styles (WWE Championship): With how long the show was, plus the amount of hype for this "Dream Match," I knew there was no way this was going to be an incredible, Wrestle Kingdom caliber match. Because of low expectations, I enjoyed the match. They worked stiff and I was legit shocked that Nakamura kicked out of the Phenomenal Forearm. I loved the Kinsasha counter into the Clash, but I loved the heel turn even more. When Shinsuke grabbed the title and dropped to a knee, I knew it was coming, but it still shocked me. This opens up so many new doors. I wish Heyman could manage Shinsuke, it would propel him to the level of star they want him to be. Rating: 3/5
10. RAW Tag Titles Match: I am not going to say much, but they have effectively killed Braun Strowman's character and aura with this crap. He should have been a major ttle player going into Mania, not teaming with a prepubescent kid. Rating: 0.5/5
11. Roman Reigns v. Brock Lesnar(c) (Universal Title): What a hot mess of a main event. Roman has now main evented FOUR.......FOUR, WrestleMania events in a row, and has failed to deliver in every single one of them. Part of that is poor booking, but if he is as great as he is made to believe, he has to be better. Then again, when you are in a purely suplex/finisher fest of a match, there isn't much room to have a good match. This would have benefited by going on in the middle of the night to get it out of the way. Lesnar winning was shocking, but not shocking at the same time. I had a feeling the were going to go with him just because of everyone and their mothers knowing Roman was going to win, so they had to swerve us. Regardless, match sucked, feud sucked, and capped off another way too long WrestleMania that peaked at about 10:45pm. Rating: 1/5
Final Thoughts: My biggest gripe is that this show much like last year's, ran way way too long. From experience, no matter the card (even if its Mania) it is hard to keep the energy flowing from 5:30 p.m - 12:05 a.m. Just purely impossible. Not to mention, they paced this show oddly and front loaded it to the point where, had Daniel Bryan not wrestled, the crowd would have been completely dead after the Rousey debut. I really enjoyed the show despite the last few matches being total clunkers. Then again, it was hard to follow Takeover which was imo, one of the greatest shows in WWE history. I feel like I need to wait til Monday to watch Takeover so my expectations for Mania aren't so high, because at the end of the day it is two totally different styles.
All in all, a really really good Mania that ran out of gas in the last act and limped to the finish line. There were incredibly bright spots and great matches, with terrible head shaking lows. This year's Mania was the "Ultimate Thrill Ride," the ups and downs of this show rode like a rollercoaster. Aside from some head scratching booking moments and a dud of a main event, this show was very entertaining and lived up to the hype.
Final Rating: 3.5/5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 8:33:52 GMT -5
I thought the show was fairly solid with the exception of the main event.
Solid opening match. Although I like Finn, he SERIOUSLY needs to stop doing the sling blade every other move. I 'member when that move used to be a finisher and when its used 223 times in a match, its just a dumb looking clothesline.
One of the best women's title matches in years (Although if Asuka was meant to lose, I wouldn't have had her submit. But its over and done with).
The US title match could have used 5 more minutes and Rusev should have won. But booking wise I get the Jinder-win.
The mixed tag was way better than it had any right to be.
The SD tag title match was a nice come down to the previous match and it didn't over stay its welcome. Short and sweet.
UT/Cena didn't need to go past 5 minutes and at this point in UT's career, we don't need a 20 minute match from him. He hit his big spots against one of the biggest names in the sport and got it done within 3 minutes. I dug it.
Bryan hasn't missed a step. It was surreal watching him wrestle last night as if he hasn't been away for 3 years. And the finish was surely designed to have KO turn on Zayn.
The Nia Jax match was average. I feel like this should have been a squash with the way she murdered Mickie. I'm glad she won.
AJ and Nak had a decent match. The crowd was dead and the placement of the match killed any sort of hype surrounding it. At that point I was exhausted too. I could have gone either way on a winner here as I thoroughly enjoy both guys. Anxious to see what a heel Nakamura will accomplish. I can see him winning the title next month.
The RAW tag title match was what it was. I enjoyed reading your reactions on here last night more than the match. Some of you take this stuff waaaaay to seriously.
The main event sucked. What else can I say? I enjoyed the random blood spot but why on earth did it take 42 F5s to put Roman down? Oh well. I'm curious to see where we go from here.
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Post by Arik Cannon on Apr 9, 2018 8:41:53 GMT -5
The cena undertaker match was perfect in my opinion.
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Post by Bandalero on Apr 9, 2018 8:45:47 GMT -5
While I agree with some of your summary there bigshab421 - a few things: The Demon character couldn't work for the simple fact of the logistics of crawling down that long ramp! Sure they could have been creative and found a way to get him there in a blink of eye, but a demon crawl would be like watching an Undertaker 10-min entrance to the ring. Cena vs Taker was a mess, a complete mess. 2:45 seconds because Taker is 143 years old and can't go anymore. He's simply an attraction like Andre was in his latter years. And that's the best thing the bookers could have done. I see lots of folks crapping on Braun, but take it for entertainment - it's a show first and a wrestling event second - that's just the cold hard facts. Braun looses nothing because of last night, in fact he becomes more endearing as a face and will eventually topple a heel champion. Hillbilly Jim wanted to lecture us about opportunity, but Braun is the living embodiment of ceasing opportunity and making the most of it.
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