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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 29, 2018 9:37:10 GMT -5
I know it's very Unlikely, almost a nonexistent chance of happening, but what if they don't go the route that has been rumored?
Could we get Strowman vs Lesnar in a definite, clean finishing title match to cement Strowman as a top face? Seeds were planted as he often had the upper hand on Brock and didn't get pinned.
What if they listened to the crowd reaction and decided to have a pass the torch rematch with Cena/Reigns? I know it happened already but fans were still LOUD when they were in together last night.
Again I know it's happening, but I would definitely not want to see Reigns/Lesnar again or Cena and a broken Taker
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Post by tg11 on Jan 29, 2018 9:45:28 GMT -5
Yeah I would definitely go Cena/Reigns in a No Mercy rematch at WrestleMania 34 with Cena losing to Reigns and ultimately passing the torch over to Roman as Cena goes off into the sunset going off to Hollywood. I mean that makes more sense than Reigns going over Lesnar. Then you can throw Brock and Braun in there one last time and Strowman finally going over Brock at Mania would cement Braun as not only a top face but it would cement him as the "face" of the WWE going forward. Plus by Reigns retiring Cena after he did the same to Taker back at 33 it would truly cement Roman as "The Guy" for years to come especially because Cena was "The Guy" for years.
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Post by J12 on Jan 29, 2018 12:17:58 GMT -5
The coronation of Roman Reigns is coming whether anyone likes it or not. It's better to get it over with now and see what the future holds rather than continue to put it off.
Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar is the plan. It's been the plan since they faced off at Mania 31 and things had to go in a different direction. It's going to be the plan until Roman Reigns beats Brock Lesnar. I don't think another Strowman/Lesnar match (which wasn't very good) is the answer. I don't see Reigns/Cena as being a draw again. Going in that direction would make Wrestlemania be a repeat of No Mercy. There's no upside in that at all.
Lesnar/Reigns will have a very good match in all likelihood. They're throwing the die hards a bone with Nakamura/AJ, and the rest of the card has plenty of potential. Conceding to Reigns/Lesnar at this point isn't the worst thing in the world.
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Post by hbkowns on Jan 29, 2018 13:51:49 GMT -5
The coronation of Roman Reigns is coming whether anyone likes it or not. It's better to get it over with now and see what the future holds rather than continue to put it off. Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar is the plan. It's been the plan since they faced off at Mania 31 and things had to go in a different direction. It's going to be the plan until Roman Reigns beats Brock Lesnar. I don't think another Strowman/Lesnar match (which wasn't very good) is the answer. I don't see Reigns/Cena as being a draw again. Going in that direction would make Wrestlemania be a repeat of No Mercy. There's no upside in that at all. Lesnar/Reigns will have a very good match in all likelihood. They're throwing the die hards a bone with Nakamura/AJ, and the rest of the card has plenty of potential. Conceding to Reigns/Lesnar at this point isn't the worst thing in the world. How many coronations are we getting with this guy until they realize he’s not the top dude? He just beat two legends in two consecutive years in the main event. Not to mention he main evented against Brock 3 years ago. I just don’t get it. That crowd is going to eat him alive for the fourth year in a row. |
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Post by J12 on Jan 29, 2018 13:54:51 GMT -5
The coronation of Roman Reigns is coming whether anyone likes it or not. It's better to get it over with now and see what the future holds rather than continue to put it off. Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar is the plan. It's been the plan since they faced off at Mania 31 and things had to go in a different direction. It's going to be the plan until Roman Reigns beats Brock Lesnar. I don't think another Strowman/Lesnar match (which wasn't very good) is the answer. I don't see Reigns/Cena as being a draw again. Going in that direction would make Wrestlemania be a repeat of No Mercy. There's no upside in that at all. Lesnar/Reigns will have a very good match in all likelihood. They're throwing the die hards a bone with Nakamura/AJ, and the rest of the card has plenty of potential. Conceding to Reigns/Lesnar at this point isn't the worst thing in the world. How many coronations are we getting with this guy until they realize he’s not the top dude? He just beat two legends in two consecutive years in the main event. Not to mention he main evented against Brock 3 years ago. I just don’t get it. That crowd is going to eat him alive for the fourth year in a row. That's a question only Vince McMahon can truly answer, but I would imagine until he either clicks, or business take a significant downturn that can be attributed to him and only him, once all other scapegoats have been exhausted. |
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Post by hbkowns on Jan 29, 2018 15:31:49 GMT -5
How many coronations are we getting with this guy until they realize he’s not the top dude? He just beat two legends in two consecutive years in the main event. Not to mention he main evented against Brock 3 years ago. I just don’t get it. That crowd is going to eat him alive for the fourth year in a row. That's a question only Vince McMahon can truly answer, but I would imagine until he either clicks, or business take a significant downturn that can be attributed to him and only him, once all other scapegoats have been exhausted. It’s going to be 4 years since they started pushing him hard. Odds are he would’ve gotten over already if he ever was going to. The thing is, yeah, they have the luxury to keep pushing him and people can bitch and moan despite business not being affected. But could you imagine them giving the same push to someone who everyone can get behind that draws actual money instead of stagnant numbers? |
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Post by J12 on Jan 29, 2018 15:40:25 GMT -5
That's a question only Vince McMahon can truly answer, but I would imagine until he either clicks, or business take a significant downturn that can be attributed to him and only him, once all other scapegoats have been exhausted. It’s going to be 4 years since they started pushing him hard. Odds are he would’ve gotten over already if he ever was going to. The thing is, yeah, they have the luxury to keep pushing him and people can bitch and moan despite business not being affected. But could you imagine them giving the same push to someone who everyone can get behind that draws actual money instead of stagnant numbers? I mean, Roman Reigns is over. He consistently gets one of, if not the biggest reactions of the night, every night. He's the biggest full time star the company has right now. The problem is, he's not over in the way they want him to be over, and that hurts the product. Additionally, there's no one staring Vince in the face as the logical replacement for Roman Reigns. We can talk about the Finn Balors, and the Shinksuke Nakamuras, and the AJ Styles, and the Daniel Bryans and CM Punks before them. But in Vince's eyes, they're either too small or they can't talk or they don't have the look or they can't represent the company well enough or they're not over enough, etc., etc., etc. I don't think most fans care about any of that stuff, but Vince does. And, until he either gets over it (he's not going to), or he hands the reigns over (no pun intended), nothing is going to change. If Vince had listened to the audience three years ago and turned Roman heel, I think we'd be on the cusp of him emerging as the huge babyface Vince always wanted him to be. But, he didn't pull the trigger, and so we're here. This is what it is. |
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Post by PJ on Jan 29, 2018 15:55:56 GMT -5
I don't see Strowman as a face. Yes, he has the face of baby Huey but I see him more as a heel. Making him a face would be horrible, because nobody would be a believable formidable opponent for him so it would be boring. Let's look at some past champions...
Backlund had guys like Graham, Muraco and Snuka to feud with.
Hogan had guys like Piper, Andre, Studd, Orndorff, Bundy.
Bret, HBK, Austin, Rock, Taker and Triple H all had each other.
Besides Brock nobody on today's roster looks to be Strowman's equal. There would be nothing entertaining about Strowman being the top face on this roster. As a monster heel (not even the top heel) there's so much more they could do with him. At least with Roman there's guys he could work with that would be considered legitimate threats to him.
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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 29, 2018 16:29:21 GMT -5
I don't see Strowman as a face. Yes, he has the face of baby Huey but I see him more as a heel. Making him a face would be horrible, because nobody would be a believable formidable opponent for him so it would be boring. Let's look at some past champions... Backlund had guys like Graham, Muraco and Snuka to feud with. Hogan had guys like Piper, Andre, Studd, Orndorff, Bundy. Bret, HBK, Austin, Rock, Taker and Triple H all had each other. Besides Brock nobody on today's roster looks to be Strowman's equal. There would be nothing entertaining about Strowman being the top face on this roster. As a monster heel (not even the top heel) there's so much more they could do with him. At least with Roman there's guys he could work with that would be considered legitimate threats to him. you can say Austin was a face but everything he did was heelish/grey area. Same with Braun he's attempting murder all the time on raw but the fans are behind him |
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Post by Kanenite on Jan 29, 2018 17:32:20 GMT -5
I don't see how anyone could mistake Braun as a Heel now.
He gets the biggest pops, and is fueding with full blown heel Kane. Kane and Team Miz tried to like murder him at TLC and Braun has been getting his revenge. He's also interacting with the kids on House Shows.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Jan 29, 2018 17:43:16 GMT -5
Braun will absolutely face Kane, been saying it since TLC. The two have never had their dance in singles competition with an actual outcome and that has been entirely deliberate.
The wheels were out in motion for this a while ago and even more so for Lesnar v Reigns. Reigns will take out all others in the Chamber and go on to defeat Brock.
However, surely the one to beat Roman for the first nicerssal title will be Strowman. He can’t contest another championship match and lose. Brock should have been the one giving Braun the win.
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Post by PJ on Jan 29, 2018 18:21:03 GMT -5
I don't see how anyone could mistake Braun as a Heel now. He gets the biggest pops, and is fueding with full blown heel Kane. Kane and Team Miz tried to like murder him at TLC and Braun has been getting his revenge. He's also interacting with the kids on House Shows. I know he is being used as a face now, but I am saying he is better suited as being a heel. After Brock there is nobody on the roster that is believable as a legitimate threat to beat him. So where does he go from here? The fans will turn on him and blame creative/writing for his horrible run, because there's nobody on the roster after Brock that would be remotely considered a viable opponent capable of beating him even if they were cheating. As a monster heel there's plenty of matches he can have because his opponents would have the underdog factor. Each week they have him flipping tractor trailers, stages, the rafters so with all these weekly super human feats who on the roster will be believable enough to able to hold his shoulders to the mat for three seconds? |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 30, 2018 16:14:17 GMT -5
I'd have preferred Lesnar vs Strowman and Reigns vs Cena as two of the top Mania matches for sure, if only they hadn't blown through both of them at No Mercy.
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