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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Feb 26, 2018 7:13:43 GMT -5
I've been prepared for Romans push since the Shield but I'm not about to tell people to stop complaining or watching if they're unhappy. It's not my place as some scrub online.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Feb 26, 2018 7:55:15 GMT -5
Did not enjoy that Chamber match. At all.
Like, I knew Roman would win. I figured Braun would look crazy strong. But having him eliminate 5 of the 6 guys, kick out of MULTIPLE finishers, and then have NOTHING for Roman and his finsishers, 27 weak Superman punches, and 2 Spears and that's it. Just........not a good match. And I hate playing armchair booker.
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Post by mutafan on Feb 26, 2018 8:05:11 GMT -5
even though we've known the outcome of this PPV since LAST year....it still doesnt take away from the fact that its just getting ridiculous with Roman someone tell me exactly what this doorknob has done to deserve getting FOUR Wrestlemania closing main events in a row? Seriously. It's a ing travesty, it's an insult to every other guy who works JUST AS HARD and is 10x better at everything wrestling than Roman, to continue to take a backseat to this guy. and the worst part is that Vince knows this. he knows exactly what he is doing. because he knows that no matter how much we all complain, we are still watching. thats why its happening, because in the end, we might be angry, but we're still giving $10 a month to him, we're still watching RAW, still buying figures, still talking about it all the time, still giving him reactions. there's no other options anymore, and we're about to sit through yet ANOTHER coronation of Roman as "the guy"...because YOU WILL LOVE HIM......what else are we going to do? This is the Truth the whole truth and nothing but the Truth.
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Post by bigshab421 on Feb 26, 2018 8:07:02 GMT -5
My biggest problem is where do they go with Braun if it isn't being added to the title match?
Feud with Miz? Already done, and he has gotten his revenge on Miz literally 20 times already, including last night by eliminating him first. Teaming with Ronda? Lame, he is the hottest act in WWE today and being relegated to a mixed tag with the bosses daughter is a joke. Facing Kane or Big Show or some other "monster?"......YAWN
Vince and his short shortsightedness is killing manys enjoyment, and in a lot of ways sacrificing the product all for yet another failed attempt on getting his pet project over. If fans weren't such marks, they need to boo and literally drown out Reigns and Vince anytime they are on the mic. Stop doing the bowing gesturing and singing "No Chance," because if you are this disenchanted, give him hell.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Feb 26, 2018 8:25:43 GMT -5
even though we've known the outcome of this PPV since LAST year....it still doesnt take away from the fact that its just getting ridiculous with Roman someone tell me exactly what this doorknob has done to deserve getting FOUR Wrestlemania closing main events in a row? Seriously. It's a ing travesty, it's an insult to every other guy who works JUST AS HARD and is 10x better at everything wrestling than Roman, to continue to take a backseat to this guy. and the worst part is that Vince knows this. he knows exactly what he is doing. because he knows that no matter how much we all complain, we are still watching. thats why its happening, because in the end, we might be angry, but we're still giving $10 a month to him, we're still watching RAW, still buying figures, still talking about it all the time, still giving him reactions. there's no other options anymore, and we're about to sit through yet ANOTHER coronation of Roman as "the guy"...because YOU WILL LOVE HIM......what else are we going to do? This is the Truth the whole truth and nothing but the Truth. Seconded. Total truth. Like. I got to a point where I was indifferent on Reigns. Didn't cheer him, but didn't boo him. Just didn't care. But now he's getting that elevation again, and it's gonna suck that WM34 is gonna be the FOURTH consecutive, SHOW CLOSING, WM Main Event that he gets. Cena, nope. Austin, nope. Taker, nope. Rock, nope. Triple H didn't. The only one I can think that got 4 or more CLOSING main events IN A ROW at Mania is Hogan.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Feb 26, 2018 8:48:08 GMT -5
Aside from Roman winning, the overall match was ass. It was a multi-man match inside the chamber. The women’s match used more of the structure than the men’s. There’s honestly no point in the match if they’re not gonna use the structure for a majority of the match
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Feb 26, 2018 8:51:31 GMT -5
Joe should've been the one to take the title off of Lesnar at GBOF
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Post by y13 on Feb 26, 2018 8:55:19 GMT -5
Stone Cold Steve Austin main-evented 3 Wrestlemania's total in his 6+ year run at or near the top. you figure 1996 was the start, 97 was when it really kicked in (wm13), leading in to 98...so you give Austin 97-02 as his true top years 14 ('98), 15 ('99), 17 ('01) were the 3 he closed out Roman is going on his 4th STRAIGHT WM closing spot. and he just hit 5 years with the company, 4 of which have been spent in this ridiculous singles push. during Austin's years when he literally was the biggest draw in the history of the business, there were still other guys who were worth enough of a mania main event spot. just like to throw a few more coals on the reigns fire when i can It’s crazy to think about. You assume if not injured, Austin would have main evented WrestleMania 2000. So, who knows what would have happened had he not gotten injured in storylines and character changes etc. But Austin’s 4th main event in a row would have been vs Rock at 17. Think about where he was in 2001 to wear Reigns is now. Roman is pretty much exactly the same where he was in 2015, in every aspect. Austin’s star only grew by the year. And WrestleMania 17 was probably where it was at its highest. I really have no issues with Roman. I think he’s fine in the ring and pretty much always delivers in his matches. Like most, it’s just the booking that drives me crazy. We knew this was gonna be the main event a year ago. But in recent weeks, they start giving Seth Rollins momentum and you start to get a little hope he could win. Then you got Braun, who has gotten over the way they wanted Roman too, but won’t fully pull the trigger on. Can you imagine if Roman eliminated everyone in the match? I think the internet would explode. Now Strowman will be in some squash match with the Miz where he chases him around for 10 minutes, destroys Axel and Dallas and beats Miz. Who knows where guys like Rollins and Balor end up. Almost wouldn’t mind seeing Braun added to the title match and either Seth or Finn get Miz
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 9:07:55 GMT -5
My biggest problem is where do they go with Braun if it isn't being added to the title match? Feud with Miz? Already done, and he has gotten his revenge on Miz literally 20 times already, including last night by eliminating him first. Teaming with Ronda? Lame, he is the hottest act in WWE today and being relegated to a mixed tag with the bosses daughter is a joke. Facing Kane or Big Show or some other "monster?"......YAWN Vince and his short shortsightedness is killing manys enjoyment, and in a lot of ways sacrificing the product all for yet another failed attempt on getting his pet project over. If fans weren't such marks, they need to boo and literally drown out Reigns and Vince anytime they are on the mic. Stop doing the bowing gesturing and singing "No Chance," because if you are this disenchanted, give him hell. Booing Roman isn't working. Silence would be stronger why don't the fans get that.
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Post by bigshab421 on Feb 26, 2018 9:32:29 GMT -5
My biggest problem is where do they go with Braun if it isn't being added to the title match? Feud with Miz? Already done, and he has gotten his revenge on Miz literally 20 times already, including last night by eliminating him first. Teaming with Ronda? Lame, he is the hottest act in WWE today and being relegated to a mixed tag with the bosses daughter is a joke. Facing Kane or Big Show or some other "monster?"......YAWN Vince and his short shortsightedness is killing manys enjoyment, and in a lot of ways sacrificing the product all for yet another failed attempt on getting his pet project over. If fans weren't such marks, they need to boo and literally drown out Reigns and Vince anytime they are on the mic. Stop doing the bowing gesturing and singing "No Chance," because if you are this disenchanted, give him hell. Booing Roman isn't working. Silence would be stronger why don't the fans get that. They'll just pipe in cheers if its silent....they did at Mania 32.
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Post by JL24FPS on Feb 26, 2018 9:51:16 GMT -5
The men's match was boring up until the final 3. We knew Roman was winning. WE KNEW. Just like we KNOW he's kicking out of an F-5 at Mania and bringing that Universal Title back on the road.
Overall, the entire PPV was solid. Women's Chamber was awesome.
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Post by marino13 on Feb 26, 2018 10:16:19 GMT -5
The only thing I didn't understand last night was why some were surprised Stephanie didn't get beat up by Rhonda. You should know by now that they are going to save that for WM. It's booking 101. Make the fans pay to see the heel get what is coming to them. That's why Stephanie has eaten a Spear and went through the tables the last few years at WM.
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Post by Bandalero on Feb 26, 2018 10:23:31 GMT -5
In a weird wacky way, Braun's the second comming of Hulkamania. I was/never will be a Hulk Hogan fan, but I can't deny his drawing power in the 80s. the only guys I've ever seen come close to that was Austin and the Rock, and there's been a lull since then. Cena has come close and probably has made more money than any one of them, but he's had a divisive crowd his whole career. Braun emulates what Hulkamania was all about. WWE has a star in the making for the next 10 years, and they are giving it someone else.
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Feb 26, 2018 11:29:46 GMT -5
Answer: Watch all of WrestleMania and then switch it off and go to bed just before the main event starts. You know it’s on last and you know the result so just don’t get angry and don’t watch it. Also, If everyone does it then they will notice a high number of people tuned out and stopped watching at the same time. this is the movement that needs to pick up steam going into wrestlemania.
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Post by Chip on Feb 26, 2018 13:32:12 GMT -5
i kinda didnt like the mens chamber match either tbh, i mean there were a few cool spots and Rollins' frog splash was a thing of beauty but they barely did anything with the structure which, last i checked, is the ENTIRE POINT of the chamber
why build the thing and go through the gimmick only to have the guys barely do anything related to it? i understand putting the mats outside so they dont take bumps on the steel, but crap i dont think anybody even went into the chains until braun/reigns at the end
im just SO sick of this company constantly overselling things, they talk up chamber like its the most brutal match in the history of wrestling, and the end result last night was nobody bled, nobody did really anything brutal, and braun went through some plastic....whoopeee.
i think its just time to retire the chamber concept. they aren't going to do what they used to do with it, at this point its just a financial drain and really doesn't sell anything anymore. they said last night its the 22nd chamber match (or there have been 22)...hard to believe, but its really run its course i think
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Post by Joey Cush on Feb 26, 2018 14:11:46 GMT -5
I told myself months ago if we get AJ Vs Nakamura for Smackdown I wont be mad at whatever they do for RAW as it pertains to Mania.
My biggest issue after last night was they made it a 7-person EC match so Braun can eliminate just one more guy. This entire match was built to book Braun as a huge monster. Which would be fine if that was the end result. But Reigns has to be the one, the only one who can withstand it all and beat Braun Strowman.
There were 7 guys last night, for the first time, 7. So Braun can eliminate 5 of them. And finally so Reigns can beat Braun. I think everyone and their mother can agree after watching the match itself, you wanted to see Brock Vs Braun again not Reigns.
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Post by King Richius on Feb 26, 2018 14:31:08 GMT -5
Overall, I thought it was a good PPV. Not great but not bad either.
The women did a good job starting things off in the chamber and I think the right decision was made to have Alexa retain and then cut a great promo trolling the crowd.
The tag match, Matt vs Bray, and Asuka vs Nia were solid matches but really not much better than what we've been seeing on Raw lately.
Ronda's contract signing was better than I expected and sets up a WM match that I am surprisingly hyped for: Rousey/Angle vs Triple H/Steph. It won't be a great technical match but it should tell a great story if done right.
The men's chamber was by the numbers with an ending almost as predictable as the sun rising in the east. I thought John Cena phoned it but everybody else did their best. I'm not sure why they had to make it a seven man match when they could have easily pulled Miz out and had an IC title match on the card too but at least we got to see Braun throw MIz off a pod onto the other wrestlers. Cool spot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 15:09:43 GMT -5
Braun has dominant performance. Closes the show standing tall why didn't he win the match?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 15:13:00 GMT -5
Thoughts, Thoughts, Thoughts or is it a review? dunno don't care.
Club vs Miztourage was a standard pre show match, It was harmless 2 out of 5 Sweets
Womens Chamber was a pretty good match, It's not like the first mens chamber, cause that had an allstar talent lineup, and I don't know about you, but Mandy Rose doesn't seem like she listens to Smah Mouth. Anyway Bliss wins LOL. 3.5 out 5 Sasha Bald Spots
Titus Worldwide vs The Bar, it was fine 2 out 5 URAH URAHs
Nia Jax vs Asuka, also a Fine Match 2 out of 5 Jaxhammers
Matt Hardy vs Bray Wyatt, This crowd sucks 2 out of 5 Laughs.
Men's Chamber, MOTN, we all knew Roman was gonna win, and yes BRAUNNN did look awesome but still sucks he lost, 4/5 Tug of Wars for the belt.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 26, 2018 15:21:57 GMT -5
WWE Elimination Chamber February 25th, 2018 | T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada | Attendance: 15,126
Most of WWE has been excellent in 2018. Other than Smackdown, the weekly shows are usually giving us high quality wrestling and some strong storytelling. Raw was on a roll heading into this Pay-Per-View. Could they keep it up or live up to the great Royal Rumble PPV?
Bo Dallas and Curtis Axel vs. Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows Recently, we’ve been treated to high quality Kickoff matches. This felt more like the days of King Barrett vs. R-Truth. This was a fine television style match and nothing more. Anderson took a short heat segment, before Gallows got to run a bit wild. A Magic Killer on Axel scored the win for the Good Brothers in 8:49. Like I said, this was fine, but totally forgettable and basic. [**]
WWE Raw Women’s Championship Elimination Chamber: Alexa Bliss [c] vs. Bayley vs. Mandy Rose vs. Mickie James vs. Sasha Banks vs. Sonya Deville This had potential to crap the bed or be really good. Thankfully, it was the latter. Bayley started against Sonya Deville and they had a fine exchange. Mandy joined next and the Absolution girls teamed up on Bayley for what was easily the dullest part of the match. It only lasted a few minutes, but dragged on since Sonya and Mandy aren’t that good just yet. Sasha came in to even the odds and the match really gained momentum. Absolution against Bayley and Sasha proved to be one hell of a battle. Mickie entered next and had a strong run. It eventually came down to Alexa against Bayley and Sasha. Alexa ran from them and climbed the Chamber, which was fun. Sasha turned on Bayley, of course, kicked her off a pod like this was the Lion King or something. Bayley got rolled up in a slightly awkward moment, leaving it to Sasha and Alexa. Alexa busted out Twisted Bliss off a pod, that Sasha countered into the Bank Statement, which also didn’t come off too smoothly. Alexa weathered the storm and won with a hanging DDT in 29:38. A great match with some very good moments sprinkled in throughout. All the ladies worked hard and bumped their asses off. A few things lacked at some points (the Absolution team up and the final segment between Alexa and Sasha), but this was mostly great. [***¾]
WWE Raw Tag Team Championship: The Bar [c] vs. Titus Worldwide w/ Dana Brooke I’ve enjoyed most of their TV matches. This was about as good as their last title match. There were several fun exchanges. Apollo took the heat, which made sense as he’s more sympathetic than Titus. However, the crowd still hasn’t been given quite enough reason to get behind the group, so they weren’t as into the babyface stuff as you’d want. Titus had a fine hot tag, though it was nothing special. The Bar put Apollo away with a tandem White Noise after 11:41. Very enjoyable tag team wrestling, highlighted by the Bar being their consistent selves, and by Apollo having one of his better PPV performances. [***]
Asuka vs. Nia Jax If Nia won, she’d join the WrestleMania Raw Women’s Title match. There’s not much interest in this, as we’ve seen it a bunch in NXT and even on TV recently. The concern of, “Can Nia be the one to beat Asuka?” wasn’t there. I will give them props for the shot of Nia stepping on Asuka’s mask before the match. That was cool. Anyway, the match was similar to their prior matches, though not on the level of the TakeOver or Osaka bouts. They did play off the finish of those, which was nice. Asuka rolled through a pin to remain unbeaten at 8:10, before Nia attacked her after the match. It was fine pro wrestling that played to what works for both characters, it just lacked anything to really make it even a little exciting. [**¾]
Bray Wyatt vs. Matt Hardy Like Asuka/Nia and Titus Worldwide/The Bar, we also got this on television in 2018. Bray basically squashed Matt on Raw 25. That, coupled with the terrible segments between the two, made for one of the most unappealing matches in recent memory. That happens a lot with Bray, huh? Anyway, this felt like more television filler. There was little life or energy behind anything, and the crowd cared about everything but the stuff going in the ring. Matt got the win with the Twist of Fate in 10:10 and we can all just move on with our lives. The definition of a “nothing” match. [½*]
Ronda Rousey came out to sign her contract next, complete with Kurt Angle, Triple H, and Stephanie McMahon in the ring. The segment moved along relatively fine, though Ronda is clearly still not comfortable on the microphone. She didn’t talk for a long time, but I still cringed a bit. Once Kurt Angle opened his mouth, the segment was saved. He hilariously confessed that HHH and Stephanie were still unhappy with Ronda for WrestleMania 31 (between this and what we find out was the Universal Title match, might as well call this year’s Mania WrestleMania 31: The Sequel) and they wanted to control her. With Ronda no longer talking, the segment took off. She put HHH through a table with a great looking spinebuster. Stephanie did slap her, but Ronda just gave her a look and she went running. Ronda signed the contract, setting up some kind of mixed tag at Mania most likely. It started slow and Ronda could definitely use a mouthpiece, but it ended with a bang and made me interested in Ronda. Success.
Elimination Chamber: Braun Strowman vs. Elias vs. Finn Balor vs. John Cena vs. The Miz vs. Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins A seven-man Chamber should be wild. I was so happy that Finn, Seth, and Miz started. Their match on Raw in 2017 was the most underrated of the year. They started the match hot, making for some great moments. Things really picked up once Braun entered. He got most of the highlights and literally eliminated everyone until it came down to himself and Roman Reigns. I have to point out that the best spot was Braun launching Miz off a pod onto everyone below. Braun kicked out of EVERYTHING, surviving so much until the end. When it came down to him vs. Roman, it was good, but not on the level of their great encounters last year. Reigns hit him with everything in his power to pull out the expected win after 40:11. I did like how Finn and Seth lasted a long time (they were the last two eliminated before Braun) and got so much time in the match. They clearly weren’t afterthoughts. Watching live, I reacted to a lot of my friends were popping for, but missed a few things. I re-watched on my own this morning and liked it a fair amount less. It wasn’t as chaotic as you’d expect from something involving so many people and the final encounter wasn’t that great. It’s a very good chamber, just not the standout one I wanted, especially after the excellent gauntlet match on Raw. [***½]
Overall: 6.5/10. Raw has been a very good show so far in 2018. However, their exclusive PPV performed like most of their others since the brand split. It was above average and nothing more. The two chambers were very good and certainly the highlights, but the rest of the card felt like filler. Even with Asuka/Nia being solid and the Tag Title match being good, they didn’t really feel special. Other than the Chambers, it felt like an episode of TV. The same goes for the Ronda segment, even though it was good.
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