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Post by whossideareyouon on Feb 28, 2018 7:16:38 GMT -5
When the Mattel Retro range came out, I was unbelievably excited.
I don't collect any other Wrestling figs other than the Hasbros that I collected as a kid, so saw this as an opportunity to get back in to getting something modern.
When series 1 came out I was delighted with the selection. Some genuine legends, from the Attitude and Golden era, and a couple of more modern guys as well.
Series 2 disappointed me. For the retro range, I don't really want a big collection of modern guys - I wanted figures that Hasbro didn't make, as well as figures that were lost in the void in between the end of the Golden era and the Attitude era.
As a grumpy old man, the retro range for me...should be just that...retro. I don't mind a few modern guys thrown in though if need be. But I would hate for it to focus primary on them. I think the app stuff in the base is way of kilter for the target audience as well. Are they aiming these at kids, older collectors or what? I feel its getting a bit muddled.
I'm just curious what you want to see for each series? Hasbro era guys? Attitude era, Modern? A good mix, or tilted towards one side?
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 28, 2018 7:40:19 GMT -5
As a fellow grumpy old man, I'm really disappointed in the way the line is going - I was hoping for mainly Flashback/Legend type guys, with some current A-listers mixed in. Having the line be nearly ALL current roster kind of defeats it's purpose in my eyes... it quickly became a must-have line to a maybe/might not bother one. And I was REALLY excited after the first 2 series too. I think the app stuff in the base is way of kilter for the target audience as well. Are they aiming these at kids, older collectors or what? I feel its getting a bit muddled. Yeah... I've said it before - for a line that will primarily appeal to older fans and Hasbro collectors, it just seems strange to make it so current-roster heavy. And, given they're now around the same price as the Basic figures, I would have thought that kids today would prefer regular Basic (and Elite) figures over the "strange looking" Retro-styled ones. Series 2 disappointed me. For the retro range, I don't really want a big collection of modern guys - I wanted figures that Hasbro didn't make, as well as figures that were lost in the void in between the end of the Golden era and the Attitude era.  Are you sure you mean Series 2 (Austin, Rock, Kane, Mankind, Sting, Triple H)? I thought they were great. Series 3 onwards though... |
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Post by Thought Collector on Feb 28, 2018 8:41:39 GMT -5
As I mentioned before. I would have loved to create it as a 'what if??' line. What if they could have picked up at the point in time the Hasbro line ended as though it never did. But I know it's just impossible for lots of reasons. That's only for me to have fun dreaming up in my imagination lol. But if they could have started the line with even more legends like say the new Savage instead of Owens, Jerry Lawler instead of Cena, Bret instead of Reigns...maybe even try to get a USA Luger in there and push the Brock into the very lacking Series 3...but I know they need those new stars in there of course. And if they actually made the cards orange it would have been such an awesome nod to collectors.
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Post by The other Rougeau brother on Feb 28, 2018 9:01:42 GMT -5
I was hoping that this line was going to go the way of masters of the universe classics and redo older hasbro era wrestlers for us older fans while still appealing to kids and releasing current roster wrestlers. I only have Warrior, I was hoping for more 80s-early 90s wrestlers and since there haven’t been any more released I gave up and I have zero interest now. Not even for the flair figure coming out.
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Post by buddyboy101 on Feb 28, 2018 9:04:29 GMT -5
This line has turned into a joke. It came out swinging with the purple Taker and Attitude era guys in series 2 (except that modern jumper Sting...), but since then very few new retro flashbacks. I understand they probably want to create something "new" instead of just re-releasing characters made by Hasbro, but then why not produce guys like Diesel, New Age Outlaws, late 90s HBK, the Outsiders, USA Lex Luger, surfer Sting, Crow Sting (90s, not 2015), X-Pac, Ministry Taker, Corporate Bossman, Mean Gene, Lawler, Cactus Jack, etc. Seriously so many options.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Feb 28, 2018 9:07:47 GMT -5
I understand why they’re doing modern guys but I would’ve preferred them to do new gen and Attitude Era guys mostly instead of just one series. I can’t justify buying another line honestly but I would buy Diesel and may end up getting Rock, Austin, Triple H, Mankind, and Kane eventually
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Post by wweretrocollector on Feb 28, 2018 9:10:39 GMT -5
I feel that they need to do a few modern guys and a few old school guys to keep everyone interested. They have released 16 figures in total and I guess technically half of them have been flashbacks. I just hope we get a little of both. I personally love them so I will buy whoever, but I really want that diesel!
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 28, 2018 9:11:27 GMT -5
Diesel. I just want  ing Diesel. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 9:14:55 GMT -5
This line has turned into a joke. It came out swinging with the purple Taker and Attitude era guys in series 2 (except that modern jumper Sting...), but since then very few new retro flashbacks. I understand they probably want to create something "new" instead of just re-releasing characters made by Hasbro, but then why not produce guys like Diesel, New Age Outlaws, late 90s HBK, the Outsiders, USA Lex Luger, surfer Sting, Crow Sting (90s, not 2015), X-Pac, Ministry Taker, Corporate Bossman, Mean Gene, Lawler, Cactus Jack, etc. Seriously so many options. Only if he comes with the purple Ultimate Warrior "Warrior Wham!" action, the one that has wild arm flailing movement when you push down on his torso, otherwise I don't even want to entertain the idea of it. |
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Post by stc13 on Feb 28, 2018 9:29:43 GMT -5
I don't mind the series being tilted towards modern wrestlers. I'd rather see a line that has broad appeal and sells well run for a few years than have a legends-focused product that dies after a few waves. The nostalgia factor is awesome, but ultimately that alone won't sell enough figures to make it profitable.
I think some of the issue may be whoever is designing these figures. For all the grief we give him, Bill is a wrestling fan and figure collector, and knows the history of the Hasbro line. And I think series 2 that he designed showed that - the Attitude Era figures were awesome and within the relative time period of the Hasbro line. But whoever is designing the other series may have little to no wrestling knowledge and is probably just working off of list of top sellers. Unless you are a collector or do some serious research, you are never going to know that there are hundreds of 30-something guys out there foaming at the mouth for a Made in the USA Lex Luger, Mabel, and Diesel. I wouldn't mind seeing Finn or New Day, or even Savage, if someone like Luger was sprinkled in. And I'd pay money at this point to know why Mattel seems to avoid Surfer Sting like the plague.
I'm optimistic that if the line continues to do well we will see more flashback-geared figures, or maybe RSC picking up some exclusives. We'll see.
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Post by awebbf5 on Feb 28, 2018 9:56:08 GMT -5
The ones I want the most they won't make, Owen king of hearts, diesel, tugboat, barbarian,dino bravo, anvil hart foundation gear, and power and glory.
So I buy just for the nostalgia aspect of taking me back to when I was a kid and I want to collect all hasbros.
Granted the series with sting and stone cold I thought was great.
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Post by PJ on Feb 28, 2018 10:13:25 GMT -5
They are toys sold in mass market retailers so they are primarily aimed at a child’s appeal. Sure they hope collectors will buy them, but we aren’t the targeted audience. Personally I don’t care what the mix is I just hope they cut down on the jumpers. Of all that were shown that I want half have been jumpers...Sting (both), Triple H, Rollins, Balor, Goldberg. The only ones I wanted that aren’t jumpers were... Warrior, Austin, Taker, Flair, Styles and Jericho (I don’t remember is he a jumper?) anyway that is way to many jumpers for me, because I was never a fan of the jumper figures.
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Post by Cammi Oh on Feb 28, 2018 10:26:22 GMT -5
I am enjoying them (for the most part). I display some of the newer ones with the Hasbros but Reigns, Rollins, Owens are all in a Hasbro bucket. I got them but I don't like the characters enough to display them with Piper, Warrior, Owen Hart, Bret Hart, etc.
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Post by Cane Dewey Riley on Feb 28, 2018 10:56:25 GMT -5
If they made more figures that seemed to pick up where Hasbro left off it'd be great but I know why they can't realistically. No one wants a Bob "Spark Plugg" Holly figure these days, nor would they likely recognize Henry O. Godwinn or Duke Drose.
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Post by whossideareyouon on Feb 28, 2018 11:44:35 GMT -5
Series 2 disappointed me. For the retro range, I don't really want a big collection of modern guys - I wanted figures that Hasbro didn't make, as well as figures that were lost in the void in between the end of the Golden era and the Attitude era. Are you sure you mean Series 2 (Austin, Rock, Kane, Mankind, Sting, Triple H)? I thought they were great. Series 3 onwards though... Doh, meant series 3 - sorry. Series 2 was simply amazing. Exactly what I wanted from these Retros! Glad I'm not the only one then who think the line is fading fast. The lack of legends/hasbro/attiude era guys is honestly baffling to me given the style of the figure and who I thought they were being aimed at. Yes, as mentioned, they are toys first...but surely kids would rather have basics? I don't know. Series 4. I like the new Flair. But the rest? I might even give a miss. I've seen lots of pics of what is coming...and honestly, there's only a handful I want. Modern Jericho is a mistake too. Make him debut Jericho or something. Difficult for Mattel I guess, but after Series 2...I was hyped beyond belief. It was a dream to see these guys in Hasbro form. |
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Post by whossideareyouon on Feb 28, 2018 11:47:54 GMT -5
I think some of the issue may be whoever is designing these figures. For all the grief we give him, Bill is a wrestling fan and figure collector, and knows the history of the Hasbro line. And I think series 2 that he designed showed that - the Attitude Era figures were awesome and within the relative time period of the Hasbro line. But whoever is designing the other series may have little to no wrestling knowledge and is probably just working off of list of top sellers. Sorry, I'm new here so excuse my ignorance...the guy who designed series 2 no longer works on the line? (a shame, because he needs a medal for series 2) Who gets final call on what figure is produced? |
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Post by #HANDSOME1 on Feb 28, 2018 11:48:30 GMT -5
Current & 90's
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 11:53:21 GMT -5
Diesel. I just want ing Diesel. This. And Jarrett, Hart Foundation, Backlund, Lawler, USA Luger, Tugboat and Tatanka. |
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Post by stc13 on Feb 28, 2018 12:00:58 GMT -5
I think some of the issue may be whoever is designing these figures. For all the grief we give him, Bill is a wrestling fan and figure collector, and knows the history of the Hasbro line. And I think series 2 that he designed showed that - the Attitude Era figures were awesome and within the relative time period of the Hasbro line. But whoever is designing the other series may have little to no wrestling knowledge and is probably just working off of list of top sellers. Sorry, I'm new here so excuse my ignorance...the guy who designed series 2 no longer works on the line? (a shame, because he needs a medal for series 2) Who gets final call on what figure is produced? Bill is the lead designer for the WWE line. He designs all of the Elite figures in the various lines. He used to design all or most of the figures, but about a year ago shifted to focusing exclusively on Elites due to the high number of figures released each year. I don't think we've ever learned who is designing the retro and basic lines now, but there's a good chance probably don't work exclusively on the WWE products as Bill does. |
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Post by ToyeticToys on Feb 28, 2018 12:02:57 GMT -5
I enjoy the current era stars, but since this whole line is based on nostalgia I'd really love for the flashbacks to take a front seat. I'd love to see some female wrestlers or valets made in this style.
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