natureboyfauser
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Post by natureboyfauser on Mar 18, 2018 13:04:27 GMT -5
I would love to know the approximate percentage of WWE figures total sales at:
Toys R Us
Walmart
Target
Kmart
Amazon
Ringside Collectibles
Big Bad Toys
etc ...
What will the closing of Toys r us going to do to the other stores?
Who will make up the ground that Toys R Us loses?
Will the other stores get their exclusives?
I don't expect anyone to know this but in case I would love to know and hope that buyers recognize this.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Mar 18, 2018 13:25:09 GMT -5
Good luck with your research.
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Post by CampCornette on Mar 18, 2018 13:33:35 GMT -5
I would love to know the approximate percentage of WWE figures total sales at: Toys R Us Walmart Target Kmart Amazon Ringside Collectibles Big Bad Toys etc ... What will the closing of Toys r us going to do to the other stores? Who will make up the ground that Toys R Us loses? Will the other stores get their exclusives? I don't expect anyone to know this but in case I would love to know and hope that buyers recognize this.  |
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Post by #HANDSOME1 on Mar 18, 2018 13:34:15 GMT -5
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Post by jayrod2009 on Mar 18, 2018 13:36:17 GMT -5
TRU closing will send a massive riple effect actoss the board for toys. From Manufacturing, shipping, distribution, sales, and collectors. I expect price increases from manufacturers to make up for loss of sales. I also expct Target and Walmart to hopefully use this as a spring board to relaunch their toy aisles. Target has the upper hand here, because their toy selection is much larger than Walmart has to offer. However, Walmart has them beat with online options as Walmart will use third party sellers.
The biggest loss here though will be for collectors. This is one less stop n shop for us. Which means other retail will get more hits, which is grat for them, but only makes hunting harder.
The winner here is Amazon. Which has been the largest contender for the past decade. I know there are bids in for Toys R Us and its assets, but to jump in with $2.6B of debt from the starting line is a major gamble.
As far ad properties that will take a loss, Neca and Funko top that list, followed by Tamashii Nations. These companies had major floor space on TRU sales floors. Tanashii in itself has lost its US distribution outside of Barnes and Noble and Diamond Distribution, meaning B&N and comic shops are their only outlet. Funk had great sales space at TRU, and had a ton of luck with selling their SDCC and NYCC exclusives through both TRUās online and retail stores. The largest loss here goes to Neca. Which had a full aisle dedicated to their products. From film franchises and video game, Neca will take a major loss here. Walmart sold 3 licenses from Neca over the past 10 years ( Alien Xenomorph, Godzilla, Terminator) and never acquired assorted cases. Target has stepped up and have taken on one figure, being Kratos from God of War. Necaās only other major US seller for brick and norter is FYE, who is also in major debt and riding the rd line as physical media of CDās and DVDās are a dying market.
We as collectors are watching the last years of toys. Enjoy them. Buy them, and donāt hold out for clearance/deals. I understand saving money is awesome, but it morphs into a detrement for retail, and manufacturers.
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Post by TheSneakerBoki on Mar 18, 2018 13:36:48 GMT -5
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natureboyfauser
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Post by natureboyfauser on Mar 18, 2018 13:43:55 GMT -5
Thanks for your thoughtful input jayrod2009. I am concerned where this is going and hope somebody picks up the slack. Toys r us - Ringside collectibles and walmart is where I get the most ... Target is not close but I would get there if on-line.
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Post by stc13 on Mar 18, 2018 13:56:15 GMT -5
I'm don't know if WWE specific numbers are available as a whole or by store. But some of the recent TRU closing articles placed TRU as accounting for between 15-20% of all Mattel sales, Target around 10-15%, and Walmart around 20% of sales. I'd assume those numbers are at least within the ballpark of actual numbers for the WWE line.
Analysts were projecting (assuming TRU closes completely and doesn't continue in some form) that most of those sales would shift to other retailers, but about 15% of TRU's overall sales would be lost.
I'm interested to see what happens to the "Fan Central" line. From a branding perspective, it makes a lot more sense for that to be associated with a brick and mortar store than an online retailer like Amazon, and it's probably something Mattel and WWE would rather not see go away entirely since it allows a lot of different promotional and marketing tie-ins. Should definitely shake things up a bit.
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natureboyfauser
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Post by natureboyfauser on Mar 18, 2018 14:43:59 GMT -5
Very interesting! Wow! Thank you Stc13. I hope our Mattel passion finds there way through this mess.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Mar 18, 2018 16:11:43 GMT -5
TRU closing will send a massive riple effect actoss the board for toys. From Manufacturing, shipping, distribution, sales, and collectors. I expect price increases from manufacturers to make up for loss of sales. I also expct Target and Walmart to hopefully use this as a spring board to relaunch their toy aisles. Target has the upper hand here, because their toy selection is much larger than Walmart has to offer. However, Walmart has them beat with online options as Walmart will use third party sellers. The biggest loss here though will be for collectors. This is one less stop n shop for us. Which means other retail will get more hits, which is grat for them, but only makes hunting harder. The winner here is Amazon. Which has been the largest contender for the past decade. I know there are bids in for Toys R Us and its assets, but to jump in with $2.6B of debt from the starting line is a major gamble. As far ad properties that will take a loss, Neca and Funko top that list, followed by Tamashii Nations. These companies had major floor space on TRU sales floors. Tanashii in itself has lost its US distribution outside of Barnes and Noble and Diamond Distribution, meaning B&N and comic shops are their only outlet. Funk had great sales space at TRU, and had a ton of luck with selling their SDCC and NYCC exclusives through both TRUās online and retail stores. The largest loss here goes to Neca. Which had a full aisle dedicated to their products. From film franchises and video game, Neca will take a major loss here. Walmart sold 3 licenses from Neca over the past 10 years ( Alien Xenomorph, Godzilla, Terminator) and never acquired assorted cases. Target has stepped up and have taken on one figure, being Kratos from God of War. Necaās only other major US seller for brick and norter is FYE, who is also in major debt and riding the rd line as physical media of CDās and DVDās are a dying market. We as collectors are watching the last years of toys. Enjoy them. Buy them, and donāt hold out for clearance/deals. I understand saving money is awesome, but it morphs into a detrement for retail, and manufacturers. Funko will be fine. Wal-Mart, target, books a million, Barnes and noble, due, hot topic, Amazon, best buy...They will notice a hit, but nothing to write home about |
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Post by theicwguy on Mar 18, 2018 18:45:05 GMT -5
I would love to know the approximate percentage of WWE figures total sales at: Toys R Us Walmart Target Kmart Amazon Ringside Collectibles Big Bad Toys etc ... What will the closing of Toys r us going to do to the other stores? Ā Who will make up the ground that Toys R Us loses? Will the other stores get theirĀ exclusives? I don't expect anyone to know this but in case I would love to know and hope that buyers recognize this. Also Walgreens and Smyths. There's probably others too. |
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Post by vashts on Mar 20, 2018 10:23:24 GMT -5
TRU closing will send a massive riple effect actoss the board for toys. From Manufacturing, shipping, distribution, sales, and collectors. I expect price increases from manufacturers to make up for loss of sales. I also expct Target and Walmart to hopefully use this as a spring board to relaunch their toy aisles. Target has the upper hand here, because their toy selection is much larger than Walmart has to offer. However, Walmart has them beat with online options as Walmart will use third party sellers. The biggest loss here though will be for collectors. This is one less stop n shop for us. Which means other retail will get more hits, which is grat for them, but only makes hunting harder. The winner here is Amazon. Which has been the largest contender for the past decade. I know there are bids in for Toys R Us and its assets, but to jump in with $2.6B of debt from the starting line is a major gamble. As far ad properties that will take a loss, Neca and Funko top that list, followed by Tamashii Nations. These companies had major floor space on TRU sales floors. Tanashii in itself has lost its US distribution outside of Barnes and Noble and Diamond Distribution, meaning B&N and comic shops are their only outlet. Funk had great sales space at TRU, and had a ton of luck with selling their SDCC and NYCC exclusives through both TRUās online and retail stores. The largest loss here goes to Neca. Which had a full aisle dedicated to their products. From film franchises and video game, Neca will take a major loss here. Walmart sold 3 licenses from Neca over the past 10 years ( Alien Xenomorph, Godzilla, Terminator) and never acquired assorted cases. Target has stepped up and have taken on one figure, being Kratos from God of War. Necaās only other major US seller for brick and norter is FYE, who is also in major debt and riding the rd line as physical media of CDās and DVDās are a dying market. We as collectors are watching the last years of toys. Enjoy them. Buy them, and donāt hold out for clearance/deals. I understand saving money is awesome, but it morphs into a detrement for retail, and manufacturers. THat sums it up. But not just toys. You must support physical stores. Online is a problem, but so are things like outsourcing, and lets be honest, China(I hope I do not get in trouble for saying that by WFT). America needs to get middle America running again. While all these regulations passed, American's cannot get jobs because of politics and agenda. Places like TRU are great, because it allows those who cannot get to or through college, a chance to move up in the world. Not everyone has a high IQ or can do engineering or do more tech based work. I know managers who after 10 years starting at the bottom, made 100k plus, without college. BUt they made it in the late 90's...I think most of these stores no longer want/can pay 100k to managers of stores. It's mostly men losing jobs out there also. It's really bad as identity politics are basically denying men jobs/education. These same men are going to work at physical stores, doing physical labor and these stores are simply going out of business partially online but millennials are the "BROKE" generation. A good example of the times was cars. Scion was a very good brand of cars that Toyota banked on drawing in a younger audience, and the joke that got passed around the industry was Toyota didn't expect all millennials to be broke....hence the brand folded and some of it got absorbed by Toyota this past year. Compare this to the toy industry and we might see parallels. |
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Post by Decky on Mar 20, 2018 15:40:16 GMT -5
So you got a 25 percent at best. And then you addĀ Entrance Greats Kurt AngleĀ to the mix?
You-the chances of winning drasticy go down. Amazon got a 33 and a third chance of winning. But I! I got a 66 and two thirds chance of winning, cuz Walmart KNOOOWS he can't beat Target, and theyre not even gonna try.
So, gamestop exclusive Samoa Joe, you take your thirty three and a third chance minus my twenty five percent chance and you got an eight and a third chance of winning at toy sales.
But then you take my 75 perchance-chance of winning, and then add 66 and two thirdsā¦percents, I got a 141 2/3 chance of winning at toy sales. The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at TRU
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Mar 20, 2018 15:59:49 GMT -5
So you got a 25 percent at best. And then you addĀ Entrance Greats Kurt AngleĀ to the mix? You-the chances of winning drasticy go down. Amazon got a 33 and a third chance of winning. But I! I got a 66 and two thirds chance of winning, cuz Walmart KNOOOWS he can't beat Target, and theyre not even gonna try. So, gamestop exclusive Samoa Joe, you take your thirty three and a third chance minus my twenty five percent chance and you got an eight and a third chance of winning at toy sales. But then you take my 75 perchance-chance of winning, and then add 66 and two thirdsā¦percents, I got a 141 2/3 chance of winning at toy sales. The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at TRU Lol |
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Post by Iron Bison on Mar 20, 2018 17:37:53 GMT -5
So you got a 25 percent at best. And then you addĀ Entrance Greats Kurt AngleĀ to the mix? You-the chances of winning drasticy go down. Amazon got a 33 and a third chance of winning. But I! I got a 66 and two thirds chance of winning, cuz Walmart KNOOOWS he can't beat Target, and theyre not even gonna try. So, gamestop exclusive Samoa Joe, you take your thirty three and a third chance minus my twenty five percent chance and you got an eight and a third chance of winning at toy sales. But then you take my 75 perchance-chance of winning, and then add 66 and two thirdsā¦percents, I got a 141 2/3 chance of winning at toy sales. The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at TRU I love you |
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Post by powerfred3k on Mar 21, 2018 1:01:22 GMT -5
I would love to know the approximate percentage of WWE figures total sales at: Toys R Us Walmart Target Kmart Amazon Ringside Collectibles Big Bad Toys etc ... What will the closing of Toys r us going to do to the other stores? Who will make up the ground that Toys R Us loses? Will the other stores get their exclusives? I don't expect anyone to know this but in case I would love to know and hope that buyers recognize this. Yeah it would be great if the CEO of mattel would actually announce how wwe figures are doing every quarter and year over year. The problem is they don't, so maybe buy some stock and ask him yourself is the only way to get the man himself to comment ?? Also another part of it is when mattel ships product to retailers and its at there warehouse/distribution center mattel considers that sold. So stores could be clogged with stuff thats not selling and have warehouses full newer stuff thats clogged there as well. Then you get stores that get sent 7 cases of one series of elites (elite 33 & 39) and they sit there and rot for a few years. This is why i cringe when i see new wwe mattel displays, cause I usually only want 1 or 2 figures in a set. Also combine that with the fact with until recently wwe figures where never recalled or marked down. |
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Post by erikg on Mar 21, 2018 4:46:59 GMT -5
I don't think it's gonna be as dire as people think
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Post by deskjet on Mar 21, 2018 7:11:12 GMT -5
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Post by Vamp55 on Mar 21, 2018 7:18:11 GMT -5
So you got a 25 percent at best. And then you addĀ Entrance Greats Kurt AngleĀ to the mix? You-the chances of winning drasticy go down. Amazon got a 33 and a third chance of winning. But I! I got a 66 and two thirds chance of winning, cuz Walmart KNOOOWS he can't beat Target, and theyre not even gonna try. So, gamestop exclusive Samoa Joe, you take your thirty three and a third chance minus my twenty five percent chance and you got an eight and a third chance of winning at toy sales. But then you take my 75 perchance-chance of winning, and then add 66 and two thirdsā¦percents, I got a 141 2/3 chance of winning at toy sales. The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at TRU Shut the place down - post of the year right here |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Mar 21, 2018 7:29:23 GMT -5
So you got a 25 percent at best. And then you addĀ Entrance Greats Kurt AngleĀ to the mix? You-the chances of winning drasticy go down. Amazon got a 33 and a third chance of winning. But I! I got a 66 and two thirds chance of winning, cuz Walmart KNOOOWS he can't beat Target, and theyre not even gonna try. So, gamestop exclusive Samoa Joe, you take your thirty three and a third chance minus my twenty five percent chance and you got an eight and a third chance of winning at toy sales. But then you take my 75 perchance-chance of winning, and then add 66 and two thirdsā¦percents, I got a 141 2/3 chance of winning at toy sales. The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at TRU Post of the year so far šš½ššš |
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