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Post by Yambag Jones on Apr 13, 2018 8:33:20 GMT -5
I just want Brock gone at this point, he needs to go. He's a shell of himself and WWE ruined his character to try and put Reigns over. I'd be shocked if he still has the belt after the Greatest Royal Rumble.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 8:57:28 GMT -5
So the crowd was chanting "This is awful"?
I thought they were randomly chanting "Miz is awesome".
Hmm.
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Post by blissfan4life on Apr 13, 2018 11:07:10 GMT -5
Brock is what is wrong with this current product. He's selfish and lazy, and refuses to try anything new with opponents.
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Post by koreygunz on Apr 13, 2018 16:33:13 GMT -5
So the crowd was chanting "This is awful"? I thought they were randomly chanting "Miz is awesome". Hmm. It was definitely "this is awful"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 17:50:19 GMT -5
Brock is what is wrong with this current product. He's selfish and lazy, and refuses to try anything new with opponents. I agree! I actually wanted Roman to win. At least we will see the title every week. Plus Roman is a great wrestler. The crowd hates his trite character, but they can't deny he can work.
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Post by koreygunz on Apr 18, 2018 7:16:04 GMT -5
I was with you until you said Daniel Bryan should dethrone Brock. He has gone through Strowman, Joe, Reigns, AJ etc so realistically how could Daniel Bryan be a legitimate threat to him? In all honesty I wouldn't care if Brock never lost the belt. It's a stupid championship so I would rather the World title be duel branded so the Raw guys can fight for something prestigious. In this instance, I was only using Bryan as an example of someone the crowd is actually emotionally invested in and would support in his "quest for the title." However, I think Bryan could very well be built as a believable adversary to Brock. I seem to remember a segment Bryan was doing during Total Divas where he was talking about changing his style and was talking about becoming more ground and submission based and building his style up to where even a double leg takedown was cool and exciting. So I could see them going that path. Its the classic David vs Goliath story, and they could build Bryan's pure wrestling ability as his edge. "If he can get the Beast down on his back..."
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Post by k5 on Apr 18, 2018 12:06:50 GMT -5
I was with you until you said Daniel Bryan should dethrone Brock. He has gone through Strowman, Joe, Reigns, AJ etc so realistically how could Daniel Bryan be a legitimate threat to him? In all honesty I wouldn't care if Brock never lost the belt. It's a stupid championship so I would rather the World title be duel branded so the Raw guys can fight for something prestigious. In this instance, I was only using Bryan as an example of someone the crowd is actually emotionally invested in and would support in his "quest for the title." However, I think Bryan could very well be built as a believable adversary to Brock. I seem to remember a segment Bryan was doing during Total Divas where he was talking about changing his style and was talking about becoming more ground and submission based and building his style up to where even a double leg takedown was cool and exciting. So I could see them going that path. Its the classic David vs Goliath story, and they could build Bryan's pure wrestling ability as his edge. "If he can get the Beast down on his back..." considering i’ve been debating with other members for years how Brock/Bryan would be not only a feasible, but a potentially great match it’s excellent to see someone who feels the same way. to me, it is the only major big match current wwe could offer that i’d be interested in other than Bryan/Roman.
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Post by The American Daydream on Apr 18, 2018 20:43:50 GMT -5
That would be the most unbelievable thing ever if Bryan beat Lesnar clean. I don't mean unbelievable in WOW factor I mean someone that could blow away with a strong wind could never take someone of Lesnars size and ability. That's a stretch even for WWE 😂😂
Besides why waste that loss for Lesnar when he'd just be right back on the injured list after Lesnar busted him open the hard way.
I could see someone of his size like Shawn Michaels beating him but their style is so different. One sweet chin at the right moment and it's over. But a knee? Or a Yes lock? Idk I don't see it being believable even on their spectrum. Maybe a diving headbutt or something but it would have to be something big and impactful. His move arsenal just doesn't cut it for me. Maybe they could do it. I just doubt it would come off as legit.
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Post by Edge618 on Apr 19, 2018 0:07:55 GMT -5
I was with you until you said Daniel Bryan should dethrone Brock. He has gone through Strowman, Joe, Reigns, AJ etc so realistically how could Daniel Bryan be a legitimate threat to him? In all honesty I wouldn't care if Brock never lost the belt. It's a stupid championship so I would rather the World title be duel branded so the Raw guys can fight for something prestigious. Using the word “realistically” when discussing a potential fake WWE storyline is one of the funniest things I read on here. This is WWE we’re talking about here.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Apr 19, 2018 6:56:28 GMT -5
I thought it was a good match with a shocking ending nobody predicted. If anything was bad about the match, it was the mark fans booing and doing "boring" and "this is awful" chants because they thought they knew the ending. I hate those. Like.....if it's so awful, leave. Better yet, start training. Get good. And YOU go do it 300 days a year. Until then, shut up. People are allowed to be disappointed, but to call into question, the talents and skill of a WWE worker, is asinine. Regardless of the following of other promotions - ROH, NJPW, etc. - WWE is the top dog of wrestling. Regardless of what anyone says to get the smarks riled up, everyone wants to go to WWE at one point in their career to say they've been there.
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Post by koreygunz on Apr 19, 2018 7:06:37 GMT -5
That would be the most unbelievable thing ever if Bryan beat Lesnar clean. I don't mean unbelievable in WOW factor I mean someone that could blow away with a strong wind could never take someone of Lesnars size and ability. That's a stretch even for WWE 😂😂 Besides why waste that loss for Lesnar when he'd just be right back on the injured list after Lesnar busted him open the hard way. I could see someone of his size like Shawn Michaels beating him but their style is so different. One sweet chin at the right moment and it's over. But a knee? Or a Yes lock? Idk I don't see it being believable even on their spectrum. Maybe a diving headbutt or something but it would have to be something big and impactful. His move arsenal just doesn't cut it for me. Maybe they could do it. I just doubt it would come off as legit. For argument's sake, what's the difference in "believability" between a kick (foot) to the face and a flying knee to the face?
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Post by BulletV1 on Apr 19, 2018 8:49:43 GMT -5
I thought it was a good match with a shocking ending nobody predicted. If anything was bad about the match, it was the mark fans booing and doing "boring" and "this is awful" chants because they thought they knew the ending. It wasn't a handful of fans chanting this. It was basically the whole damn stadium. The match was crap and nobody gave a damn. Especially after the other matches we'd already seen that night that were superior in every possible way.
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Post by BulletV1 on Apr 19, 2018 8:52:56 GMT -5
That would be the most unbelievable thing ever if Bryan beat Lesnar clean. Mysterio beating Kane, Big Show, etc... is more believable?
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Apr 19, 2018 9:19:07 GMT -5
I thought it was a good match with a shocking ending nobody predicted. If anything was bad about the match, it was the mark fans booing and doing "boring" and "this is awful" chants because they thought they knew the ending. It wasn't a handful of fans chanting this. It was basically the whole damn stadium. The match was crap and nobody gave a damn. Especially after the other matches we'd already seen that night that were superior in every possible way. I respect the opinion of people who did not enjoy the match. But personally, I did enjoy the match. For an entire year everyone thought it was a 100% certainty that Roman Reigns was winning the Title. Instead, the match ended with him in a puddle of his own blood as the loser of the match. We got Suplex City, they broke the announcers table, we got blood, Roman lost....it was everything I could have expected or wanted. Anybody who expected Savage/Steamboat II was being unrealistic. Brock Lesnar hasn't done anything other than Suplex City for the last 4 years, and Roman isn't really that good of a wrestler....how was this supposed to be a 6 Star match from the Tokyo Dome with those two guys? I think that given the two people involved, it was as good as it could have been. Yeah, Roman has more moves that he could have done (Drive By, Samoan Drop, dive over the top rope, and the sit out Razor's Edge he only did during the feud with Rusev two years ago).... but it is what it is.
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Post by k5 on Apr 19, 2018 9:41:58 GMT -5
That would be the most unbelievable thing ever if Bryan beat Lesnar clean. I don't mean unbelievable in WOW factor I mean someone that could blow away with a strong wind could never take someone of Lesnars size and ability. That's a stretch even for WWE 😂😂 Besides why waste that loss for Lesnar when he'd just be right back on the injured list after Lesnar busted him open the hard way. I could see someone of his size like Shawn Michaels beating him but their style is so different. One sweet chin at the right moment and it's over. But a knee? Or a Yes lock? Idk I don't see it being believable even on their spectrum. Maybe a diving headbutt or something but it would have to be something big and impactful. His move arsenal just doesn't cut it for me. Maybe they could do it. I just doubt it would come off as legit. Royce Gracie beat men twice his size using submissions and those were legitimate fights...it’s bookable, no question. have Bryan severely damage one of lesnar’s arms by submission in the early going, etc.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 19, 2018 14:15:35 GMT -5
That would be the most unbelievable thing ever if Bryan beat Lesnar clean. I don't mean unbelievable in WOW factor I mean someone that could blow away with a strong wind could never take someone of Lesnars size and ability. That's a stretch even for WWE 😂😂 Besides why waste that loss for Lesnar when he'd just be right back on the injured list after Lesnar busted him open the hard way. I could see someone of his size like Shawn Michaels beating him but their style is so different. One sweet chin at the right moment and it's over. But a knee? Or a Yes lock? Idk I don't see it being believable even on their spectrum. Maybe a diving headbutt or something but it would have to be something big and impactful. His move arsenal just doesn't cut it for me. Maybe they could do it. I just doubt it would come off as legit. Bryan beating Lesnar by submission is laughable, but I think the knee beating Lesnar is somewhat plausible (within a ridiculous pro wrestling contest), if they spend a year protecting it as a knockout shot.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Apr 20, 2018 11:48:49 GMT -5
I really don't care one bit either way. Neither man does anything to inspire or excite me.
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