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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 18, 2018 23:54:47 GMT -5
Balor should have been the face of 205 Live. Anyone that disagrees with that can fight me.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Jul 19, 2018 0:47:24 GMT -5
He's basically in holding mode right now, like Nakamura was last year. They don't have a major feud for him right now, so they're giving him whatever filler they can. The issue is compounded on Raw, given that the top champion is never around.
He's a guy that can survive it though. They do need to move him into something meaningful before too long, but I wouldn't too much for the time being. Personally, I would move him to Smackdown. There are a lot more interesting feuds for him over there right now. If not that, put him into the IC title picture with Dolph.
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Post by hbkjason on Jul 19, 2018 2:06:15 GMT -5
As the Demon King he is freaking cool as just regular Finn Balor he is just another guy.
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Post by blissfan4life on Jul 19, 2018 6:39:29 GMT -5
He's just basically boring smiling Finn. A Heel turn would freshen things up
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jul 19, 2018 7:38:03 GMT -5
It’s funny, in the attitude era you could have had the rock wrestle the opening match for 3 weeks straight and no one would think or say anything about it. Now if you aren’t champion for 3 years and headlining every show, something is wrong. Let him do His thing. There’s no believable way he can be part of the title picture right now. You have Brock Lesnar who destroyed everything in his way so far. You have Braun who flips cars and beats 3 man teams. How does Finn fit into that and can have either of those two lose to him CREDIBLY without ruining their character? Can’t be done
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 19, 2018 8:36:33 GMT -5
You covered everything that's been going on with Balor. I'm not sure what else we can add.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jul 19, 2018 9:08:29 GMT -5
As the Demon King he is freaking cool as just regular Finn Balor he is just another guy. No. He's an extraordinary guy who does extraordinary things. BALOR CLUB!
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Post by havoc7179 on Jul 19, 2018 9:14:36 GMT -5
It’s funny, in the attitude era you could have had the rock wrestle the opening match for 3 weeks straight and no one would think or say anything about it. Now if you aren’t champion for 3 years and headlining every show, something is wrong. Let him do His thing. There’s no believable way he can be part of the title picture right now. You have Brock Lesnar who destroyed everything in his way so far. You have Braun who flips cars and beats 3 man teams. How does Finn fit into that and can have either of those two lose to him CREDIBLY without ruining their character? Can’t be done Thank you. I find it hilarious about how the only thing that separates this era from Attitude era was the PG-13 to R storylines. People complain about AJ vs. Nakamura 4, but they were ok with Triple H v Rock 42 and them opening the show with a match. Some fans have the attention span measured in nanoseconds. Balor is on tv weekly in matches. He's on PPVs--dual branded PPVs. You know who wasn't last week? Breeze, Roode, Good Brothers, Revival, AOP, Titus Worldwide, Becky Lynch, Riott Squad, the Bar, Chad Gable, Shelton Benjamin, Elias, should I keep going? Hawkins. Jinder. Goldust. Mojo. Ascension. The Entire 205 Live Brand. Ember Moon. Miz. Samoa Joe. When he misses two PPVs in a row and it's not because of injury, let's revisit this topic. Until then, he's fine.
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Post by J12 on Jul 19, 2018 9:52:18 GMT -5
He's just a guy in the mid-card on a show ruled by bigger guys. He'd greatly benefit from a move to Smackdown.
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Post by PJ on Jul 19, 2018 11:12:29 GMT -5
It’s funny, in the attitude era you could have had the rock wrestle the opening match for 3 weeks straight and no one would think or say anything about it. Now if you aren’t champion for 3 years and headlining every show, something is wrong. Let him do His thing. There’s no believable way he can be part of the title picture right now. You have Brock Lesnar who destroyed everything in his way so far. You have Braun who flips cars and beats 3 man teams. How does Finn fit into that and can have either of those two lose to him CREDIBLY without ruining their character? Can’t be doneWhile I agree that there’s nothing wrong with what Finn’s doing right now. That said I do think it’s no different than the WWE having us believe DB could beat Triple H and then Orton and Batista in a handicap match in the same night to become WWE champion. To do it Finn should have won MitB. Braun should be a heel because everything he’s doing to Owens is heel bullying. So you have Braun face Brock beating the crap out of each other for 15-20 minutes and then have Finn come out and cash in like Seth did at WrestleMania. That could have worked were neither Brock or Braun are hurt by the loss. But like I said earlier in the thread he is not hurting where he is right now within the company. But I do feel that he should be given the championship for at least a one or two month reign to makeup for having to drop it the night after because of the injury. He deserves to defend the title at least once or twice seeing he didn’t get the opportunity the first time.
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Post by crashholly2002 on Jul 19, 2018 13:11:48 GMT -5
oh please, the same claim can (and has been) said about AJ Styles, and now look at him; 2x current reigning WWE champion Balor will get his dues eventually, that is if he isn't injured by then
Not the same at all though. I don't really think theres been a time in AJ's tenure in WWE that he's been booked terribly. neither has Finn Balor; the point is that Balor will get dues eventually. Remember when AJ was wrestling Shane McMahon; people were livid, citing that wrestling Shane is beneath AJ Styles and he should be world champion, and now he's the current WWE champion
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 1:38:15 GMT -5
They ruined him like They did bray Wyatt and like they will elias
They have no clue anymore.
There was zero reason to scrap the demon character other than they’re clueless and have been for a long time. He’s never gonna be anything without that
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 8:37:57 GMT -5
With all the smiling he does it's a miracle he hasn't gotten Rocky Maivia type heat yet. What bothers me is that he isn't the Demon on big shows like in NXT. He should have wore the paint at wrestlemania!
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Post by marino13 on Jul 20, 2018 10:23:35 GMT -5
I don't think they've shelved the Demon. They are saving it for moments it makes sense. If he used it every week, then it isn't special anymore. By saving it, it can be marketed as something you don't see often. Just like when he was going to use it for Bray, but kept it to face AJ. The Demon was the spotlight attraction. No need to over-saturate it and devalue it.
Finn will be fine. Sure, he does need some direction, but you can tell they still value him. He's still featured often. He's just resting on the back-burner till his time comes.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 20, 2018 10:37:54 GMT -5
Once they get the belt off Brock and they can take the however number of top guys and specifically put them into either the Universal Title picture or IC Title picture, everyone's path will be more clear.
It was tough to figure out what to do with Balor, I think. With Brock off TV, they took guys like Roman and Seth and made them IC Champ because you needed a TOP GUY to be the IC Title and be the face of the show....that left a lot of other guys in limbo with what seemed like nothing important to do.
Once the belt gets off of Brock and your Universal Title picture is (probably) Roman, Lashley, Braun, and maybe Seth?
Then you can take guys like Balor, Elias, and McIntyre and have them in that IC Title picture, since I don't think Dolph is a long term thing for WWE.
I personally see Finn Balor walking out of SummerSlam as IC Champ...but that's just me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 11:38:53 GMT -5
I don't think they've shelved the Demon. They are saving it for moments it makes sense. If he used it every week, then it isn't special anymore. By saving it, it can be marketed as something you don't see often. Just like when he was going to use it for Bray, but kept it to face AJ. The Demon was the spotlight attraction. No need to over-saturate it and devalue it. Finn will be fine. Sure, he does need some direction, but you can tell they still value him. He's still featured often. He's just resting on the back-burner till his time comes. He should use it for ppvs. In NXT he used it at every Takeover, it was great. His main roster stint is not great. Good at best!
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Post by marino13 on Jul 20, 2018 11:44:07 GMT -5
I don't think they've shelved the Demon. They are saving it for moments it makes sense. If he used it every week, then it isn't special anymore. By saving it, it can be marketed as something you don't see often. Just like when he was going to use it for Bray, but kept it to face AJ. The Demon was the spotlight attraction. No need to over-saturate it and devalue it. Finn will be fine. Sure, he does need some direction, but you can tell they still value him. He's still featured often. He's just resting on the back-burner till his time comes. He should use it for ppvs. In NXT he used it at every Takeover, it was great. His main roster stint is not great. Good at best! On the main roster if he used it for every PPV, that'd be once a month. In NXT it was 3-4 times a year. A lil different. IMO once a month would be overkill.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 12:29:21 GMT -5
He should use it for ppvs. In NXT he used it at every Takeover, it was great. His main roster stint is not great. Good at best! On the main roster if he used it for every PPV, that'd be once a month. In NXT it was 3-4 times a year. A lil different. IMO once a month would be overkill. Hey some people say he should use it permanently. That would be overkill. How long does it take to put all that demon facepaint on?
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Post by marino13 on Jul 20, 2018 12:36:23 GMT -5
On the main roster if he used it for every PPV, that'd be once a month. In NXT it was 3-4 times a year. A lil different. IMO once a month would be overkill. Hey some people say he should use it permanently. That would be overkill. How long does it take to put all that demon facepaint on? No idea but I have to imagine it takes a fair amount of time. To me, once a month is a bad idea regardless.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jul 20, 2018 13:08:49 GMT -5
On the main roster if he used it for every PPV, that'd be once a month. In NXT it was 3-4 times a year. A lil different. IMO once a month would be overkill. Hey some people say he should use it permanently. That would be overkill. How long does it take to put all that demon facepaint on?2.5-3 hours.
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