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Post by IRS on Aug 6, 2018 11:27:24 GMT -5
Listen, are you going to tell me right now that The Marine 3-6 are not critically acclaimed, A-list movies? Because that would not be awesome.
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Aug 6, 2018 11:28:11 GMT -5
This exactly. Everyone saying they want more of a cinematic approach doesn’t realize we’d just be getting more WWE studios garbage. Raw and SDL are already bad enough, I don’t want them to get anything closer to The Marine 287 or whatever number they’re on now.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 6, 2018 11:35:32 GMT -5
I’d enjoy them doing some more silly skits instead of just the million pointless workrate filler rematch formula they’ve done for the last few years, but it’s more expensive and it’d mean coming up against the language barrier for international broadcasts. And we’d still complain about everything anyway, so there’s no incentive for them to do it.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 6, 2018 14:31:38 GMT -5
Remember when The Wyatt Family abducted Kane and The Undertaker? Well we should've seen them locked up in Wyatt's house where he tortures them and tries to consume their powers and I honestly believe that would've helped built the feud up huge. But instead they show up on Raw with no explanation as to how they escaped so sometimes stuff like that is relevant. Even Braun Strowman going to Brock Lesnar's house to cash in his contract would be cool too.
Lets be honest the WWE is sports entertainment and instead of getting the same matches every week they should take a break from the ring at times and gives us something different. What iMPACT have been doing lately is refreshing.
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Post by Quazimoto on Aug 6, 2018 16:05:48 GMT -5
If you you ask me, WWE doesn't need a cinematic approach. What they need most is better writing, more specifically they desperately need believable bad guys. Heels drive the on air show and modern WWE heels are just far too cookie cutter. The same could be said for the faces as well, but face characters, by and large, have always been pretty interchangeable. They need more badass heels. I'm not talking dudes that cant be bothered to show up half the time. I'm talking bad guys that don't run away all the time. Bad guys that can and do win in a fair fight. Bad guys that do bad stuff and like it. Kevin Owens and Tommaso Ciampa in NXT are perfect examples. Give fans that type of bad guy on the main roster and watch how much more interesting WWE shows get.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Aug 6, 2018 16:16:06 GMT -5
I enjoyed WWF wrestling a lot more when it was presented as a live sport.
Anything backstage was either done with Okerlund interviewing a superstar, or they went to some lengths to justify WHY a camera was roaming around backstage and caught something.
The less the company has taken itself seriously, the less I've watched. I'm not even a big fan of the in ring promos. I think the should be left to contract signings or an important address.
In short, I hate the episodic television factor of modern day WWE. I just can't suspend my disbelief at all anymore. I'll turn the channel straight to an actual game on the dial somewhere.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 6, 2018 16:37:25 GMT -5
I enjoyed WWF wrestling a lot more when it was presented as a live sport. Anything backstage was either done with Okerlund interviewing a superstar, or they went to some lengths to justify WHY a camera was roaming around backstage and caught something. The less the company has taken itself seriously, the less I've watched. I'm not even a big fan of the in ring promos. I think the should be left to contract signings or an important address. In short, I hate the episodic television factor of modern day WWE. I just can't suspend my disbelief at all anymore. I'll turn the channel straight to an actual game on the dial somewhere. Have they ever really taken themselves that serious?
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Post by Planktung on Aug 6, 2018 17:00:16 GMT -5
I think they'll try it someday. Right now, they might think that sort of cinematically-produced content looks silly in comparison to their "natural" style of segments, but if it ever proves to be the most viable business model, then it'll happen.
I would hope that they dabble in it sooner or later because when done right - and I know WWE can do it right with their budget - those types of scenes can go a long way to develop characters and storylines.
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Post by Zigzag on Aug 6, 2018 17:40:25 GMT -5
It's exactly the reason why I choose not to follow Impact or LU. I don't want it in promotions I enjoy watching.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Aug 6, 2018 17:48:09 GMT -5
I enjoyed WWF wrestling a lot more when it was presented as a live sport. Anything backstage was either done with Okerlund interviewing a superstar, or they went to some lengths to justify WHY a camera was roaming around backstage and caught something. The less the company has taken itself seriously, the less I've watched. I'm not even a big fan of the in ring promos. I think the should be left to contract signings or an important address. In short, I hate the episodic television factor of modern day WWE. I just can't suspend my disbelief at all anymore. I'll turn the channel straight to an actual game on the dial somewhere. Have they ever really taken themselves that serious? I kayfabe in general more or less. The 80s had as much cheese as we've ever seen. It simply didn't effect the fact that the company presented itself as a live sporting event, the WWF just put their wrestlers in wacky situations for the viewing audience. I'll take this over a camera randomly being in a limo when the Miz is making a getaway. Hell Uncle Elmer's wedding was actually legit lol.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Aug 6, 2018 18:52:37 GMT -5
Okay listen up now. 12 Rounds was good, The Call was good, Oculus was great, and Knucklehead is an absolute gem.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 6, 2018 19:14:41 GMT -5
Don't forget the House of Horrors! And in every instance, they WWE-ified it and it stunk. Well, Ultimate Deletion was pretty decent, but still fell short of all the Impact versions of the Broken Universe. No. All of them were equally bad. Well, Austin and Pillman was good as was Triple H and Orton, but Wyatt’s/New Day, House of Horrors & Ultimate Deletion were all bad. Wasnt Randy Orton's "wife" laughing during that segment when HHH came up to her and holding a sledgehammer?
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Post by TurboEddie on Aug 6, 2018 19:39:38 GMT -5
Because they think it's cool to do interviews on an iPhone.
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Post by BØRNS on Aug 7, 2018 0:25:42 GMT -5
WWE tries to mimic "reality" television, that's my best guess.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 9:35:04 GMT -5
Listen, are you going to tell me right now that The Marine 3-6 are not critically acclaimed, A-list movies? Because that would not be awesome. I liked Marine 5,I thought Bo Dallas was a good villian.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 7, 2018 10:35:23 GMT -5
The WWE Superstars are pretty bad actors, for the most part. The majority of the roster can barely walk out there and even simply TALK about having a match.....I don't think it would be a good idea if they added more cinematic acting to WWE.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Aug 7, 2018 14:00:49 GMT -5
WWE tried to do it with certain segments. Problem is, they overproduce things. WWE needs to worry more about their booking before they should worry about this. But since they're at their most profitable, nothings going to change
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Post by walkingturtles on Aug 7, 2018 19:12:23 GMT -5
WWE tried to do it with certain segments. Problem is, they overproduce things. WWE needs to worry more about their booking before they should worry about this. But since they're at their most profitable, nothings going to change In this era of competitive cable tv against cord cutters and streaming services. A dependable and strong product that draws consistently mid 2/3s gets 5 Billion from Fox. Vince answers to the shareholders, he use to answer to the fans and the industry.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Aug 7, 2018 19:25:14 GMT -5
WWE tried to do it with certain segments. Problem is, they overproduce things. WWE needs to worry more about their booking before they should worry about this. But since they're at their most profitable, nothings going to change In this era of competitive cable tv against cord cutters and streaming services. A dependable and strong product that draws consistently mid 2/3s gets 5 Billion from Fox. Vince answers to the shareholders, he use to answer to the fans and the industry. Of course I know he answers to shareholders. I was responding to you saying that they should change their production to look similar to Lucha Underground. I was just saying there's more things WWE should worry about than how the show looks like production wise. I used their booking as an example, but at the same time agreed that since they're making money, they really don't have to change anything. Vince McMahon and WWE will find new ways of revenue for their company. They don't have to worry about production. And I'll also agree when they tried to do segments to look similar to those companies mentioned, it fell flat or looked too overproduced.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 8, 2018 15:36:10 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think they should do anything in recorded backstage segment that they couldn't accomplish in front of a live audience, because it becomes too jarring and feels like you're watching two separate things.
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