smarklyyfe
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Post by smarklyyfe on Aug 16, 2018 18:43:33 GMT -5
For unknown reasons to us some very deserving in ring competitors never got their shot to be "the guy". One that comes into mind for me is Razor Ramon. You think that a big guy like him, with the look that he had, and being as they say "over like rover" like he was. Would've sported the iconic winged eagle championship at least once in his career. Any other superstars you can think of that should've been champion?
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Post by LA Times on Aug 16, 2018 18:58:45 GMT -5
You dont need a World title to be considered a legend, but these guys couldve been given the belt, headlined multiple shows and still pick up business
Rowdy Roddy Piper Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase Rick Rude
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Aug 16, 2018 19:04:12 GMT -5
I think if Razor would've stuck around he probably woulda had a run as champ but I am sure he's happier with the paychecks he got from Ted Turner instead.
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Post by theicwguy on Aug 16, 2018 19:09:31 GMT -5
Big Cass (raises right arm). 😂
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Post by smarklyyfe on Aug 16, 2018 19:10:14 GMT -5
You dont need a World title to be considered a legend, but these guys couldve been given the belt, headlined multiple shows and still pick up business Rowdy Roddy Piper Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase Rick Rude Couldn't agree more I think everyone mentioned more than proved that.
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Aug 16, 2018 19:14:29 GMT -5
Always thought John Cena could have been something, shame he never got a run with the title.
Nah, in all seriousness: Cesaro with Heyman in 2014 Cody Rhodes 2010-2014 Dolph Ziggler 2012-2014 Christian Ted DiBiase Sr. Ken Shamrock Dusty Rhodes Roddy Piper Rick Rude
I wish guys like Jeff Hardy, Kane, RVD, and Eddie Guerrero had got an opportunity to have a longer reign with the belt (not the big gold, the actual WWE title) for a good 5-7 months.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Aug 16, 2018 19:17:34 GMT -5
I literally just posted about this a few days ago regarding who gets pushed and who doesn’t. The planted have to align and you have to be in the right place at the right time with all the qualities of a perfect employee. And the fans have to like you. But let’s look at Razor for a moment. Scott Hall has mentioned in recent interviews that he didn’t care if he was the guy leading the company, or if he was winning or losing. Sure, money was a motivator for him, but he wanted to put on a good show. He was happy to be a cog in the wheel and to do whatever it took to ensure the wheel kept moving, and it didn’t bother him if a title was involved or not, just as long as the story was good. You dont need a World title to be considered a legend, but these guys couldve been given the belt, headlined multiple shows and still pick up business Rowdy Roddy Piper Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase Rick Rude I agree with all of those, strictly speaking WWF, but Rude had a run with the heavyweight title in WCW didn’t he?
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Post by smarklyyfe on Aug 16, 2018 19:26:37 GMT -5
I've seen a few people mention Rick Rude. For some reason I never looked at him that way. I just think character wise he wasn't a plausible WWE Champion.
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Post by smarklyyfe on Aug 16, 2018 19:29:27 GMT -5
I literally just posted about this a few days ago regarding who gets pushed and who doesn’t. The planted have to align and you have to be in the right place at the right time with all the qualities of a perfect employee. And the fans have to like you. But let’s look at Razor for a moment. Scott Hall has mentioned in recent interviews that he didn’t care if he was the guy leading the company, or if he was winning or losing. Sure, money was a motivator for him, but he wanted to put on a good show. He was happy to be a cog in the wheel and to do whatever it took to ensure the wheel kept moving, and it didn’t bother him if a title was involved or not, just as long as the story was good. You dont need a World title to be considered a legend, but these guys couldve been given the belt, headlined multiple shows and still pick up business Rowdy Roddy Piper Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase Rick Rude I agree with all of those, strictly speaking WWF, but Rude had a run with the heavyweight title in WCW didn’t he? I don't think he did but I could be wrong.
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Post by smarklyyfe on Aug 16, 2018 19:37:49 GMT -5
Always thought John Cena could have been something, shame he never got a run with the title. Nah, in all seriousness: Cesaro with Heyman in 2014 Cody Rhodes 2010-2014 Dolph Ziggler 2012-2014 Christian Ted DiBiase Sr. Ken Shamrock Dusty Rhodes Roddy Piper Rick Rude I wish guys like Jeff Hardy, Kane, and Eddie Guerrero had got an opportunity to have a longer reign with the belt (not the big gold, the actual WWE title) for a good 5-7 months. Shamrock would've been interesting.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Aug 16, 2018 19:41:59 GMT -5
I literally just posted about this a few days ago regarding who gets pushed and who doesn’t. The planted have to align and you have to be in the right place at the right time with all the qualities of a perfect employee. And the fans have to like you. But let’s look at Razor for a moment. Scott Hall has mentioned in recent interviews that he didn’t care if he was the guy leading the company, or if he was winning or losing. Sure, money was a motivator for him, but he wanted to put on a good show. He was happy to be a cog in the wheel and to do whatever it took to ensure the wheel kept moving, and it didn’t bother him if a title was involved or not, just as long as the story was good. I agree with all of those, strictly speaking WWF, but Rude had a run with the heavyweight title in WCW didn’t he? I don't think he did but I could be wrong. Eh, yeah you’re right. I remember seeing pics of him wearing big gold, but apparently it was WCW’s international heavyweight belt at the time and not recognized by the NWA when he won it, so it doesn’t count. Or something along those lines. My bad.
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Post by The American Daydream on Aug 16, 2018 19:43:46 GMT -5
Drugs are bad mmmkayyy
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Post by smarklyyfe on Aug 16, 2018 19:44:29 GMT -5
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Post by tylerbreezee on Aug 16, 2018 20:11:41 GMT -5
Ted Dibiase Jr.
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Post by BSR on Aug 16, 2018 21:25:48 GMT -5
This thread happens so often.
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Post by Darkhawk on Aug 17, 2018 2:40:55 GMT -5
Mr. Kennedy 05-06.
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Post by Falconsinclair on Aug 17, 2018 3:48:13 GMT -5
"Roddy" Piper shouldn't be on this list all. He was THE GUY to beat in the WWF at the time, Roddy never needed the title to get over and in all honesty the angle with Hogan would have been just as great if Hogan didn't have the belt at that time either. Hogan also never pinned Piper during that entire angle. At the War to Settle the Score Piper was disqualified. At WrestleMania 1 Orndorff ate the pin.
While Hogan was the man at that time. Piper was the man to beat during that period.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 17, 2018 7:11:38 GMT -5
Responding to the OP...
Most reports say that Razor would have been considered for a main event push had it not been for his personal problems. Yes Vince was enamored with Nash’s size but Razor was over like crazy. I still believe that Razor could have taken Diesels’ WWF Title run in ‘94-95 had he been more reliable. Just watch SummerSlam 1994 to see how over he was.
To me it wasn’t so much that he wasn’t given a chance in the main event but that Vince couldn’t trust him (which is funny considering how much he gave to HBK for all of his personal problems).
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 17, 2018 7:37:07 GMT -5
I believe if Scott Hall had stayed in the WWF instead of going to WCW, he would have been WWF Champion. He was bigger (size) than Bret and Shawn, and he was super over. If Nash jumps to WCW and Razor stays, Razor shoots straight to the top.
The problem was, Hall and Nash went to WCW together for the money.
Obviously Scott Hall has had a massive amount of personal problems in his life with drugs and alcohol and we have no idea of knowing if those would have occurred in WWF the way that they did in WCW.
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Post by vampiroporvida on Aug 17, 2018 8:23:08 GMT -5
Jake the Snake, King Kong Bundy, British Bulldog. For kicks, a Pillman run could have been insane.
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