sherri
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Post by sherri on Oct 28, 2018 10:52:03 GMT -5
I just looked back at the Elite Line and noticed that the last First In The Line Flashback was Elite 57. We are now on Elite 64. All of the Flashbacks in the Regular Elite Line have been re-dos of already released wrestlers. So, where are the First In The Line Flashbacks going? They're all store exclusives. The 3 upcoming figures that I really want, Bob Backlund, King Harley Race and Queen Sherri are all First In The Line and they are all Wal Mart Exclusives. As I've said in another post, I'm 41 years old. I don't want to chase figures. By making the figures I want store exclusives you are pissing me off and really hampering my collecting spirit. I think it's a mistake to treat collectors this way and I hope figures like the 3 I mentioned and Red rooster, Wendi Richter, Pat Patterson and Mabel come out soon and in a way that I can buy them through Ringside Collectibles instead of having to either go store searching or by paying Internet scalpers extra money. What Mattel is doing is not fair to us old guys that have been watching wrestling since we were 5 and really just want to buy our childhood heroes in figure form.
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FUSamBaker
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Post by FUSamBaker on Oct 28, 2018 10:55:26 GMT -5
They don’t care. I’m buying all mine second hand at flea markets. Don’t care if I’m paying double, I’m not chasing and I’m not giving Mattel my money on them 😂. I don’t understand what they are doing besides making it even harder to get figures.
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Post by Purple Reigns on Oct 28, 2018 11:04:28 GMT -5
If they felt they were making a mistake they wouldn't continue to do it.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Oct 28, 2018 11:09:08 GMT -5
Nah
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Post by Mongo Bears on Oct 28, 2018 11:09:55 GMT -5
It’s a loosing battle my friend. Flashback collectors are second class citizens to Mattel.
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Post by stc13 on Oct 28, 2018 11:15:27 GMT -5
I think people are a little hyperbolic about how hard to locate these figures are. I've seen every figure from HOC and Flashback series 1 and 2 available on ebay or Amazon for within a few dollars of retail, if not below. We'll have to wait to see how these are distributed, but I read that they'll be 2 per case. If that's true, I don't think these figures will be particularly hard to find. At the end of the day they're mass produced retail figures.
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Elitemainia
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Post by Elitemainia on Oct 28, 2018 11:29:26 GMT -5
They are making a big mistake I'm a flashback collector and on occasions I do pick up some of the current figures but they are watering them down all you see is John cena ,Roman's and now a j styles I get they sell but dang every series has one of those guys in it . they could put a flashback in one of there place.most of the flashbacks has been redos for a while it's time wwe gives mattel the rights to make more Legends or there going to lose a lot of collectors I'm already losing interest
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Oct 28, 2018 11:33:40 GMT -5
It’s a loosing battle my friend. Flashback collectors are second class citizens to Mattel. Of course they are. There’s more people buying current figures than flashbacks. They go where the money is
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natureboyfauser
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Post by natureboyfauser on Oct 28, 2018 11:37:44 GMT -5
Those are the figures I want too. I love this line but will not pay a premium for any figure. If I can't get them I may stop and they don't want me to stop because I spend way too much money. But 1 in a pack for Build a figure is never cool. Harley Race the former champion has only 1 per pack and you can't get it. Not good.
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taserface
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Post by taserface on Oct 28, 2018 11:42:16 GMT -5
Those are the figures I want too. I love this line but will not pay a premium for any figure. If I can't get them I may stop and they don't want me to stop because I spend way too much money. But 1 in a pack for Build a figure is never cool. Harley Race the former champion has only 1 per pack and you can't get it. Not good. Give it till December when they go on clearance, because the line isn’t going to continue. They will be on the bay for $19.99 along with the rest of Series 2 & 3
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 11:45:25 GMT -5
No offence, but as a flashback collector, you are in a very small minority when it comes to people buying figures, so of course, what you, and i want, as FB collectors doesnt rank highly at Mattel, i have no trouble getting the store exclusives i want, and i live around 5000 miles from a Walmart, so Americans shouldnt have a problem Mattel make figures of guys who make them money, thats the way a business works
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Post by SteveHulk on Oct 28, 2018 11:46:19 GMT -5
I feel your pain - if you're in the US though, at least you have a chance of finding these figures... they're not even released here in the UK, so often our only choice is to pay about £40 for them.
But look at it this way: at least these types of figures are being made... at the end of the day, would you rather Mattel make them store exclusives/harder to get - or not make them at all? I think they are trying to get the figures out, but we are a small part of the overall market and they've had trouble with a lot of Flashbacks warming shelves in the past.
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mikeawesome
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Post by mikeawesome on Oct 28, 2018 12:01:16 GMT -5
Those are the figures I want too. I love this line but will not pay a premium for any figure. If I can't get them I may stop and they don't want me to stop because I spend way too much money. But 1 in a pack for Build a figure is never cool. Harley Race the former champion has only 1 per pack and you can't get it. Not good. Give it till December when they go on clearance, because the line isn’t going to continue. They will be on the bay for $19.99 along with the rest of Series 2 & 3 lol funny but so true I've seen it so so many tlmes you go on target.com you can still find a the shark right now Walmart have the WCW flashbacks build the JJ Dillon clogging the shelves also flashback Elites series 2 you can find a whole set except Shawn Michaels the flashbacks aren't doing that well but yes I collect them too
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randyrock
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Post by randyrock on Oct 28, 2018 12:01:32 GMT -5
My kid has been out of the game for a few years now so the only figures I get are ones that make sense for me. Those would be Flashback figures and Ronda Rousey. I often wonder as to why I still collect because there’s never going to be an end game for me. I’d like to round out the Wrestlemania III roster but we’re never going to get Billy Jack Haynes or Tom Zenk. Every year we speculate as to who is gonna be the surprise Golden Era figures and we seemed to be disappointed with every reveal. Then we get Harley Race and it’s the best figure ever but limited quantity.
I don’t understand the business. I wish I did and would like to be in charge of the Flashback series. At least then I can have some perspective as to why we get two Big Boss Man figures and characters like Greg Valentine and Hercules continuously get skipped over.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Oct 28, 2018 12:05:34 GMT -5
It’s a loosing battle my friend. Flashback collectors are second class citizens to Mattel. Loosen your standards and buy that Roman Reigns flashback for last year lol.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 12:07:01 GMT -5
If they are harder to get then that is pretty much the same as them not existing in the first place IMO?! I am not paying ridiculously high prices for a piece of plastic. These figures are a mass produced product, not high end collectibles so I refuse to pay anything more than retail or 10% above the retail price.
As for the notion that legends collectors make up only a small fraction of the customer base- anyone have any stats to back that claim up?! Also, if this is the case then why are they bothering to release any legends figures at all?! They have to be making some money from these figures or else they wouldn't be releasing them. When the flashbacks were part of the main elite line, Bill had said they were selling very well, now that they spun them off into store exclusive lines they supposedly are not doing well which is why we keep seeing one exclusive line after another shut down. They had the perfect formula and screwed it up, they should have left things as they were with 1 or 2 flashbacks per wave in the main elite line. Surely allotting 1 slot per wave for a legends figure is not going to be detrimental to the current product?!
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Post by SteveHulk on Oct 28, 2018 12:26:23 GMT -5
If they are harder to get then that is pretty much the same as them not existing in the first place IMO?! ?? ...it's not the same AT ALL. If they exist, then at least you have a chance of finding them - or have the option of paying a bit more to get them. With respect, it's not really "ridiculously high prices" we're talking about... you should be able to get them for what... $30-$40 on the secondary market? Personally, if there was a figure I really wanted, I'd much rather Mattel actually make it a store exclusive or hard to get than not make it at all: at least then I have the option to buy it or not, even if it means having to search harder for it or pay extra.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Oct 28, 2018 12:47:19 GMT -5
My kid has been out of the game for a few years now so the only figures I get are ones that make sense for me. Those would be Flashback figures and Ronda Rousey. I often wonder as to why I still collect because there’s never going to be an end game for me. I’d like to round out the Wrestlemania III roster but we’re never going to get Billy Jack Haynes or Tom Zenk. Every year we speculate as to who is gonna be the surprise Golden Era figures and we seemed to be disappointed with every reveal. Then we get Harley Race and it’s the best figure ever but limited quantity. I don’t understand the business. I wish I did and would like to be in charge of the Flashback series. At least then I can have some perspective as to why we get two Big Boss Man figures and characters like Greg Valentine and Hercules continuously get skipped over. Because the Big Boss Man is gonna sell more than Greg Valentine & Hercules /thread
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Oct 28, 2018 12:50:18 GMT -5
If they are harder to get then that is pretty much the same as them not existing in the first place IMO?! I am not paying ridiculously high prices for a piece of plastic. These figures are a mass produced product, not high end collectibles so I refuse to pay anything more than retail or 10% above the retail price. As for the notion that legends collectors make up only a small fraction of the customer base- anyone have any stats to back that claim up?! Also, if this is the case then why are they bothering to release any legends figures at all?! They have to be making some money from these figures or else they wouldn't be releasing them. When the flashbacks were part of the main elite line, Bill had said they were selling very well, now that they spun them off into store exclusive lines they supposedly are not doing well which is why we keep seeing one exclusive line after another shut down. They had the perfect formula and screwed it up, they should have left things as they were with 1 or 2 flashbacks per wave in the main elite line. Surely allotting 1 slot per wave for a legends figure is not going to be detrimental to the current product?! When you start asking for stats, you've already lost. Flashback collectors are the minority. Adult collectors are not the target market. I don't need stats.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Oct 28, 2018 12:52:43 GMT -5
If they are harder to get then that is pretty much the same as them not existing in the first place IMO?! I am not paying ridiculously high prices for a piece of plastic. These figures are a mass produced product, not high end collectibles so I refuse to pay anything more than retail or 10% above the retail price. As for the notion that legends collectors make up only a small fraction of the customer base- anyone have any stats to back that claim up?! Also, if this is the case then why are they bothering to release any legends figures at all?! They have to be making some money from these figures or else they wouldn't be releasing them. When the flashbacks were part of the main elite line, Bill had said they were selling very well, now that they spun them off into store exclusive lines they supposedly are not doing well which is why we keep seeing one exclusive line after another shut down. They had the perfect formula and screwed it up, they should have left things as they were with 1 or 2 flashbacks per wave in the main elite line. Surely allotting 1 slot per wave for a legends figure is not going to be detrimental to the current product?! When you start asking for stats, you've already lost. Flashback collectors are the minority. Adult collectors are not the target market. I don't need stats. Exactly. The majority of this line’s sales are from people that watch the current product and/or children. We don’t need statistics to know this is true
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