Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Feb 23, 2019 19:22:36 GMT -5
The WWE started to suck from 2009 and now I know why. People were complaining that WWE sucked LONG before 2009. Exactly. There has always been at least a small vocal group complaining about the product. A few years ago, someone here linked some forum posts from 1999, and people were complaining then too, at the height of the Attitude Era.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 23, 2019 20:03:55 GMT -5
Vince McMahon, Stephanie and HHH will still be his editors
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 20:12:56 GMT -5
People were complaining that WWE sucked LONG before 2009. Exactly. There has always been at least a small vocal group complaining about the product. A few years ago, someone here linked some forum posts from 1999, and people were complaining then too, at the height of the Attitude Era. Where can I see these posts? I thought everyone loved the attitude era, but didn't go on message boards back then.
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Feb 23, 2019 20:14:28 GMT -5
Exactly. There has always been at least a small vocal group complaining about the product. A few years ago, someone here linked some forum posts from 1999, and people were complaining then too, at the height of the Attitude Era. Where can I see these posts? I thought everyone loved the attitude era, but didn't go on message boards back then. I'm honestly not sure where anymore, a member here linked them a few years ago. The one complaint I remember the most was how Triple H was getting buried. How the times have changed.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 23, 2019 21:25:33 GMT -5
Exactly. There has always been at least a small vocal group complaining about the product. A few years ago, someone here linked some forum posts from 1999, and people were complaining then too, at the height of the Attitude Era. Where can I see these posts? I thought everyone loved the attitude era, but didn't go on message boards back then. There was complaining throughout the attitude era. Too many promos, needs more wrestling, Austin/Undertaker is holding down the young guys, etc etc. There was just less of it than there is today because the Internet just wasn’t as big at the time, and pages took forever to load on dial-up.
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Post by BSR on Feb 23, 2019 21:38:43 GMT -5
Where can I see these posts? I thought everyone loved the attitude era, but didn't go on message boards back then. I'm honestly not sure where anymore, a member here linked them a few years ago. The one complaint I remember the most was how Triple H was getting buried. How the times have changed. Triple h is lucky he got to be the guy who worked against the guys who actually drew the money.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Feb 24, 2019 1:10:06 GMT -5
Where can I see these posts? I thought everyone loved the attitude era, but didn't go on message boards back then. There was complaining throughout the attitude era. Too many promos, needs more wrestling, Austin/Undertaker is holding down the young guys, etc etc. There was just less of it than there is today because the Internet just wasn’t as big at the time, and pages took forever to load on dial-up. Yep there was a very vocal group of too much Austin. I also remember when internet darlings were Billy Gunn and Hardcore Holly.
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hbkowns
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Post by hbkowns on Feb 24, 2019 2:04:34 GMT -5
People might be fans of Prichard’s podcast, as am I. But to completely honest I’m not aware of anything Prichard, atleast to my knowledge, has positively contributed to WWE during his tenure there. I know he’s taken responsibility for a lot of the crapty booking that happened during his time there. People probably hold Prichard in high regard because he was working there during the golden age and the attitude era, but what major storyline or creating of a superstar has he been apart of? I just don’t see how Prichard fits in and understands the current roster. Even if he does have great ideas, Vince just does what he wants either way, especially nowadays in his later years. If anybody should have that position in should be Ryan Ward.
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Post by Chip on Feb 24, 2019 2:08:15 GMT -5
my god, this is crazy. good for bruce, he is one of the all time great minds of the business and LOVES this company. he wants it to be successful and he knows what the he's doing. they need that on the other hand, i really enjoy the STWW podcast, and i dont see how he's going to be able to continue doing it, although who knows. if it leads to bigger things for him AND conrad thats good. but also its not like Alabama Dream doesnt have anything else going on either. dude is married to Flair's daughter, still has the mortgage thing and like what? 3 other podcasts?...im sure he's fine. we'll see what happens, hopefully something is cleared up by this week's show. and man am i looking forward to what Prichard is gonna bring to the table finally
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Feb 24, 2019 5:50:23 GMT -5
They need to bring in Dirty Dutch with him Jim Cornette too. Pass.
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Post by Vamp55 on Feb 24, 2019 6:07:25 GMT -5
Now if they could just get Heyman on the writing team. My thoughts exactly
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on Feb 24, 2019 14:36:56 GMT -5
The WWE started to suck from 2009 and now I know why. People were complaining that WWE sucked LONG before 2009. They REALLY started bitching in 2003. Although to be honest, even when WWE was the hottest thing in pop culture (Somewhat of an OVERstatement I realize...but you know what I mean) the IWC were still bitching on the message boards about things.
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Post by hbkowns on Feb 24, 2019 15:02:24 GMT -5
People were complaining that WWE sucked LONG before 2009. They REALLY started bitching in 2003. Although to be honest, even when WWE was the hottest thing in pop culture (Somewhat of an OVERstatement I realize...but you know what I mean) the IWC were still bitching on the message boards about things. 2003 is one of my favorite years as a fan.
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Post by k5 on Feb 24, 2019 15:08:03 GMT -5
newsflash: Internet wrestling boards and tape trading amongst the hardcore fan community is what made ECW into what it was, which revolutionized WWE and WCW’s product and the pro wrestling industry as a whole.
THEN, ROH surfaces after ECW’s demise. the audience is essentially that same ‘smart mark’ community. the wwe fans regard them as snobs and their view on wrestling in athletic levels as silly - this is entertainment, right? WWE loyalists, including on this very forum, say that Bryan Danielson, CM Punk, Samoa Joe and the rest can fill high school gyms but would never make it in the WWE. Yet that small group of talent, supported by that same smark community that began in tape trading, eventually revolutionizes the entire work rate of the industry (look at the top wrestlers now. the quality on athletic performance has increased drastically as a way to counter the removal of frequent large dangerous spots which resulted in injuries) AND IT TOOK WWE 10 YEARS TO CATCH UP. if you were to believe some of the WWE loyalists on here then, you would’ve thought Carlito would be a 10 time champion before CM Punk would get a tryout match. And we’re STILL recovering from that level of creative burnout in the Chris Masters/Eugene/Home grown talent strictly era.
the wwe missed out on AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, and countless others true primes. they were subjugated to crapty ass TNA because the WWE agents just ‘knew so much better’ than the fans. well look at who is at the top now.
find me the ‘Austin sucks’ chants live in the middle of the attitude era akin to John Cena’s? yeah, you can’t.
but I forgot, PeOpLe ThAt CoMpLaIn AbOuT wReStLiNg ArE sO dUmB
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Feb 24, 2019 16:54:57 GMT -5
I'd just like everyone that calls Bruce an ass kisser to get hired and they can be the one's to finally put Vince in his place.
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Post by A-Rob on Feb 24, 2019 18:16:16 GMT -5
This is very interesting, it's clear that a major shakeup creatively is happening with Prichard returning and alot of new agents starting.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Feb 24, 2019 18:29:55 GMT -5
They need to bring in Dirty Dutch with him Jim Cornette too. Yeah no, the further Jim Cornette stays away from modern wrestling, the better. Thanks.
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Post by snowjorden on Feb 24, 2019 18:38:04 GMT -5
Now if only they'd fire Kevin Dunn.
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Post by Sandman on Feb 24, 2019 18:41:41 GMT -5
Aww man, I was hoping it would end up being that one forgotten guy who wrote during the year 2000. One of his memorable storyline/angles was the Triple H/Steph/Kurt love triangle thingy, that guy knew his stuff & got results, he actually had continuation.. I mean.. what is that in the modern WWE era anyway?
Conrad's podcast maybe over with Bruce but atleast we've still got Conrad with Bischoff, that's almost as good?
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Post by marino13 on Feb 24, 2019 19:42:12 GMT -5
Good to see some more changes are being made.
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