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Post by CM Poor on Feb 26, 2019 8:38:58 GMT -5
I think the same. He returned too fast, and looks too healthy. Dont know. Might be wrong though. Leukemia is different than other cancers, it is treatable and depending on the person some can have extremely successful treatment. Idk how anyone can even insinuate that this is a work. If it were a work, there’s no way it could be kept a secret. You think they worked the entire roster as well? And for what? Him to get cheered? There’s a million other ways they can get Roman cheered. If they wanted him to get a pop every single week he would. Thank god - a levelheaded take. The WWE signature hadn't even run to kick off RAW and I'd already lost what little patience I may have had for the onslaught of conspiracy theories coming to a head over this. Setting aside the fact that they've all been spouted off from talking heads that had zero access to Roman's medical records, zero information regarding to what degree this new case had been discovered at, and have zero credentials in the field of medicine...we're talking about a publicly traded company, in 2019, in a world where the falsification of debilitating illnesses for personal gain is immediate cause for social pariahdom. The fallout of this being postured the way it has and being revealed to be little more than a work to try and elevate the public perception of a fictional character wouldn't just land at the feet of WWE Corporate - it would land upon the shoulders of Joe Anoa'i as well. It's pretty sad that some people are so enveloped in their disdain for the character he portrays or their disenchantment with the product for which he performs that they'd cast that degree of suspicious depravity upon him, simply to satisfy their own lack of empathy.
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Post by bababooey on Feb 26, 2019 8:43:32 GMT -5
“I’m back” is kind of vague. They didn’t exactly say to what extent he’s back at this point. If he’s able to compete at Mania they should give him something where he can have some limited involvement. Kind of just get his feet wet again. Maybe a tag match with Dean. Have Dean carry most of it and bring Roman in for some highlights.
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Post by Edge618 on Feb 26, 2019 8:50:42 GMT -5
“I’m back” is kind of vague. They didn’t exactly say to what extent he’s back at this point. If he’s able to compete at Mania they should give him something where he can have some limited involvement. Kind of just get his feet wet again. Maybe a tag match with Dean. Have Dean carry most of it and bring Roman in for some highlights. I think he’s back full time on TV, he’ll be in the ring by Fastlane. I’d say they were a little vague only because they’re not ready to announce his in ring return, and I doubt he’s jumping right back into full time with house shows and appearances. I think he’ll ease back into the swing of things. I don’t think anyone’s expecting him to come back full force right now, not because he can’t, but because it just doesn’t make sense to over work him after this kind of journey he’s had
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Post by havoc7179 on Feb 26, 2019 8:53:56 GMT -5
I think the same. He returned too fast, and looks too healthy. Dont know. Might be wrong though. Leukemia is different than other cancers, it is treatable and depending on the person some can have extremely successful treatment. Idk how anyone can even insinuate that this is a work. If it were a work, there’s no way it could be kept a secret. You think they worked the entire roster as well? And for what? Him to get cheered? There’s a million other ways they can get Roman cheered. If they wanted him to get a pop every single week he would. Plus, if you look at him, you can clearly tell he shrunk. He's much smaller meaning he probably hasn't worked out in months (aside from the last week or so), and that was most likely due to the treatments. You can also tell his hair thinned a bit (which is why he was pony tailed up). Guy went through treatment. You can easily tell. It's a shame people are doubting this. My mom had breast cancer and had to go on chemo. She didn't lose all of her hair. It thinned out in places. A common misconception is that all cancer patients who undergo chemo become bald. You lose hair for sure, but you don't go bald in all cases. People elect to shave it down because it looks "silly" since there are patches of hair and thinned out. (My mom told me she thought it looked silly before she decided to shave it down.)
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Feb 26, 2019 9:15:38 GMT -5
I’m probably gonna get heat for this but I’m having doubts about this (and we’re talking about Vince McMahon here) my mother in law fought leukemia for 3 years (rip she was such a wonderful woman and I loved her very much)She went into remission 2 times, she was sick more than she was better. She was super weak, super thin, lost all of her hair twice. I just don’t see how he beat this so quickly and also had time to film a movie, is doing spears,Superman punches, and is back in time for a program at wrestlemania. Like I said, I could be wrong but as someone who has been affected by this horrible disease it gives me doubts. We’ll see if they actually book him at Mania.
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 26, 2019 9:27:26 GMT -5
As someone who has lost multiple people to multiple forms of cancer over the years, it's important to remember, too, that illnesses of all kinds strike people in various ways. My father-in-law was diagnosed in 2007 and didn't make it a year. My grandfather was instructed to get his affairs in order in 1986 and was given six months to a year. He died in 2004. An old acquaintance of mine had a resurgence of her leukemia arise back around Christmas of 2006. She ran the 2007 Boston Marathon.
Any parents on here may be familiar with the adage that no two children are the same. It's almost cliche, but it's an important reminder to keep at hand as you monitor the progress and the development of your child, as the compulsion to compare their progress to those of their peers is almost insurmountable. I think the same token applies here. It's not to discount the stories that many of us share regarding our own experiences with various cancers, as each has taken their own unique toll, but we're watching this from a distance, isolated from so many pertinent facts. To discount it because it doesn't match the familiarity we've developed with the disease, I think, is a disservice across the board.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Feb 26, 2019 9:30:48 GMT -5
I’m probably gonna get heat for this but I’m having doubts about this (and we’re talking about Vince McMahon here) my mother in law fought leukemia for 3 years (rip she was such a wonderful woman and I loved her very much)She went into remission 2 times, she was sick more than she was better. She was super weak, super thin, lost all of her hair twice. I just don’t see how he beat this so quickly and also had time to film a movie, is doing spears,Superman punches, and is back in time for a program at wrestlemania. Like I said, I could be wrong but as someone who has been affected by this horrible disease it gives me doubts. We’ll see if they actually book him at Mania. My grandfather had leukemia for 17 years, he was in remission two times before being taken by the disease. He worked, cared for me in the summer, It’s something you live with forever even when you are in remission. I totally believe that Roman had a flare up, was cause very very early by wwe’s Medical staff and kicked it’s ass. I worry for the man though, I’m sure his life and schedule had to do with the flare up so I just hope for his sake he works a lighter schedule cause unfortunately he could be dealing with this the rest of his life. It sucks Your mom had such a horrible ordeal with this disease, it’s horrible and I’m sorry, but leukemia is a very different dangerous disease that doesn’t always act the same.
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Post by marino13 on Feb 26, 2019 9:51:27 GMT -5
It's the "WWE faked Bryan's medical records" all over again. Some people take this far too serious.
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 26, 2019 10:05:46 GMT -5
LeukaemiaCare put together a helpful thread (specifically in response to Roman and those who suggest that all may not be as it seems) with some helpful links and anecdotes for anyone who may still be struggling with the reality of all this:
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Post by k5 on Feb 26, 2019 10:11:21 GMT -5
people must think WWE shares the same pr guys as Jussie Smollet.
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Feb 26, 2019 10:26:30 GMT -5
Can't speak for anyone but myself here. Lost my Dad to prostate cancer and know what a struggle it was for him and my family. I do not doubt Roman was ill and is doing better, God Bless. It's the exploitation of the WWE in trying to get him over, yet again, that sickens me. They are using the sympathy/empathy card to win over support for him. He's a talented guy but creative doesn't know what to do to make him "The Guy".
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Post by Gargano on Feb 26, 2019 10:29:10 GMT -5
So my brother dies of leukemia and Reigns just squashes it like a local town jobber? Smh WWE booking sucks. /s
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Post by marino13 on Feb 26, 2019 10:29:45 GMT -5
LeukaemiaCare put together a helpful thread (specifically in response to Roman and those who suggest that all may not be as it seems) with some helpful links and anecdotes for anyone who may still be struggling with the reality of all this: EVERYONE who doubts this should read this. Very informative comments.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Feb 26, 2019 10:42:07 GMT -5
It's the "WWE faked Bryan's medical records" all over again. Some people take this far too serious. Times like these makes me think WWE is right to treat fans like idiots.
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Post by blissfan4life on Feb 26, 2019 10:52:36 GMT -5
I'm Pretty sure Roman having a healthy immune system helped.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Feb 26, 2019 11:10:12 GMT -5
If you think WWE would stoop as low as to running a worked angle with a wrestler having leukemia in the year of our lord 2019, then boy, you REALLY need to take off your tin foil hats and stop watching Alex Jones.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Feb 26, 2019 11:13:24 GMT -5
I think the same. He returned too fast, and looks too healthy. Dont know. Might be wrong though. Leukemia is different than other cancers, it is treatable and depending on the person some can have extremely successful treatment. Idk how anyone can even insinuate that this is a work. If it were a work, there’s no way it could be kept a secret. You think they worked the entire roster as well? And for what? Him to get cheered? There’s a million other ways they can get Roman cheered. If they wanted him to get a pop every single week he would. I never said I believed that it was a work. What I did say was that in spite of my lack of expertise, and the part of me that has trouble processing how physical he got and how great he looks I choose to believe that he kicked its ass, and I'm really happy for him....but if I were ever to be afflicted personally that I pray that I would come out on the other side looking as good as he did. It's more a testament to how healthy he looks. Maybe it was misinterpreted, but I never insinuated that it was a work. In retrospect my opening sentence could've set the wrong tone, but I was kind of in a state of shock. In October I don't think that anyone expected to see him getting physical in less than 6 months.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Feb 26, 2019 11:30:07 GMT -5
I think the same. He returned too fast, and looks too healthy. Dont know. Might be wrong though. Leukemia is different than other cancers, it is treatable and depending on the person some can have extremely successful treatment. Idk how anyone can even insinuate that this is a work. If it were a work, there’s no way it could be kept a secret. You think they worked the entire roster as well? And for what? Him to get cheered? There’s a million other ways they can get Roman cheered. If they wanted him to get a pop every single week he would. Very much agreed. Let’s also not forget that this isn’t you and me working our 9-5 everyday job. Roman makes so much more than probably most on this forum. He can afford the top of the line in drugs and treatment and diet and exercise. That makes a huge difference when it comes to getting back on your feet again.
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Post by hbkowns on Feb 26, 2019 12:27:36 GMT -5
Guys we’re not here to debate Roman’s recovery on this thread. There’s other threads where you can do that. Stick to the topic.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Feb 26, 2019 13:34:14 GMT -5
I’m probably gonna get heat for this but I’m having doubts about this (and we’re talking about Vince McMahon here) my mother in law fought leukemia for 3 years (rip she was such a wonderful woman and I loved her very much)She went into remission 2 times, she was sick more than she was better. She was super weak, super thin, lost all of her hair twice. I just don’t see how he beat this so quickly and also had time to film a movie, is doing spears,Superman punches, and is back in time for a program at wrestlemania. Like I said, I could be wrong but as someone who has been affected by this horrible disease it gives me doubts. We’ll see if they actually book him at Mania.
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