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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 13:35:50 GMT -5
People did find Harley in stores though (I think PJ actually found 2!)... they also found the others in the series - or just Stone Cold (suggesting Harley and the others had already been sold). So he was released/out there... a limited release/only at certain stores (and 1 per-case), but available none the less. And you guys in the States had a much better chance of finding one than us guys in Europe and Australia, lol. From what I recall, Harley was fairly easily available on eBay for months - people just didn't want to spend $50+ at the time or wanted to wait and see if their stores would eventually get them. I saw him quite a few times at $50, $75, $90 - but always delayed buying him, thinking he'd become more easily available in stores. And FWIW, I'm in my mid-40's and have a job, responsibilities and a real life... I've also been collecting for 25 years and don't think $50-$100 is ridiculous for a figure that I really want. I can understand why others feel differently, but I'd rather just cut back my spending on other/current figures accordingly (ie. I'd rather have a figure like Harley over 5 of the latest Elites). How dare people refuse to pay 5 times the retail price of a plastic doll. They’re not real Harley Race fans. And how dare a seller want the going rate for their stuff
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 1, 2019 16:12:36 GMT -5
I can only speak for myself but nowhere near me ever even received the series. In fact, I'm pretty confident that they weren't even within a 450 mile radius of me. Some people found them, swell for them. To me it was never available in stores. For it to be available to me I'd have basically had to tour the country, hopping from Wal-Mart to Wal-Mart to get them, so no the argument that anyone who wanted it bad enough could've gotten it because it was technically released does not apply. There was no reasonable way that I could've acquired one, making the comparison to Hardy applicable to me. I looked everywhere, and on a daily basis. If I'd found a stray Jake or Austin, then yeah, I missed it. But that never happened. Now I don't live where PJ (who apparently found 2) lives, so his situation does not apply to me. To me it was every bit as impossible to get as the Hardy, which was only available via ebay for 4x plus retail. I'm sure I can't be the only one. So for the last time, no it wasn't ing available for everyone who wanted one bad enough. Therefore they should rerelease it. I don't care about people having rare figures, if there were no rare figures I'd be perfectly happy. This was a massive want that I never even got a shot at, so I'm pissed. I would not buy a non king version or a purple version without the cape and crown. All I can do now is hope that they pop up in discount stores, as I'm sure they're sitting in warehouses somewhere now. I just hope they don't pop up in Australia like the Mankind.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 16:24:59 GMT -5
I can only speak for myself but nowhere near me ever even received the series. In fact, I'm pretty confident that they weren't even within a 450 mile radius of me. Some people found them, swell for them. To me it was never available in stores. For it to be available to me I'd have basically had to tour the country, hopping from Wal-Mart to Wal-Mart to get them, so no the argument that anyone who wanted it bad enough could've gotten it because it was technically released does not apply. There was no reasonable way that I could've acquired one, making the comparison to Hardy applicable to me. I looked everywhere, and on a daily basis. If I'd found a stray Jake or Austin, then yeah, I missed it. But that never happened. Now I don't live where PJ (who apparently found 2) lives, so his situation does not apply to me. To me it was every bit as impossible to get as the Hardy, which was only available via ebay for 4x plus retail. I'm sure I can't be the only one. So for the last time, no it wasn't ing available for everyone who wanted one bad enough. Therefore they should rerelease it. I don't care about people having rare figures, if there were no rare figures I'd be perfectly happy. This was a massive want that I never even got a shot at, so I'm pissed. I would not buy a non king version or a purple version without the cape and crown. All I can do now is hope that they pop up in discount stores, as I'm sure they're sitting in warehouses somewhere now. I just hope they don't pop up in Australia like the Mankind. It wasnt made to be available to everyone, that was the point
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Post by budbundy on May 1, 2019 16:28:54 GMT -5
see thats the thing. this particular release was bit different. they shipped SOME out then canceled the line. as you KNOW SOOOOO many walmarts never got the series, but everyone was thinking the stores would get a set at least. so when the figs were $50 before christmas we all thought we'd still find the set in our stores. then the fig price jumped to $150-$400 in no time and we realized there are no more coming and zero word from mattel. that is BS. lucky for you guys that you got em. i guess F the rest of us because that line got canceled just as it was coming out. i have life and cant afford that kind of price for a fig but was one here with the king in purple (not NWA) on my want lists everytime. had i known SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many Walmarts were not going to get the set at all, id have spent the $50-$100 for Harley or $150 or so for the set back in December. again, pick another fig to play we got one you didnt too bad for you then Harley with the issues that were when it was released. Jeez, id never want others collecters to miss out JUST so i could have that rare fig, esp when we all clamour together to get these figs made. I don't want an NWA version. I only want the king. Paying $250 to get him off of ebay is the same as it being unavailable, as its ing ludicrous to expect anyone to pay that for a ing action figure. They should all be readily available. To this day the only figures I've never found in stores are E1 Jeff Hardy and Race (although no Dunne yet either). To the guy that said 'it was released, so if you wanted it bad enough you could've gotten one' is wrong. If you got one, great for you, have a balloon. For most of us this was E1 Hardy part 2. Most people didn't get a REASONABLE shot at it. I found Sherri, found Backlund, found Wolfe. That's how it should be. Chases should be difficult but not impossible. I never even saw the ing series in stores, then they cancelled the line mid go. I blame Mattel over Wal-Mart because the vast majority of Wal-Marts never got the series before it was cancelled so a massive number of people who wanted it never could get it. Yes, the previous series was far too abundant. There's no doubt in my mind that this could've been handled better. An NWA version would feel like a slap in the face to those of us who only wanted the King. There's no reason why this shouldn't be re-released, even if it's only one per case The thing is though - I've seen plenty of people say how much they want/wanted King Harley, but then "refuse" to pay $50-$100 for him (or sometimes anything over retail). That's their choice. Is it fair that they/we should have to pay that for a single figure? Heck no - but that's just the way things are sometimes... life can be unfair(!). I'm in the UK and Harley was never even released here - so it sucked big time (...I had ZERO chance of ever finding one). I wanted the figure though, so ended up paying just over $100 for one on eBay... other people could have done the same if they really wanted one (for a long time he was around the $50-$100 mark). I also paid eBay prices for the Flashback 3 Steamboat and Jake... did I want to pay these prices? No - but I wanted the figures, so bit the bullet... it just meant I had to cut down quite a bit on the current figures/Elites. And I know some people were waiting for stores to get more in - but that's the gamble you have to take: I was waiting too, but could see the ebay prices going up and up... so thought it better to get one before the price got too crazy - and if there are more found in stores later, then so be it. I know the way Harley was released is really annoying and I don't mean to sound harsh... but if someone in another country could get the figure, then others could have too: he was available, one way or another. Same
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Post by SteveHulk on May 1, 2019 18:04:22 GMT -5
People did find Harley in stores though (I think PJ actually found 2!)... they also found the others in the series - or just Stone Cold (suggesting Harley and the others had already been sold). So he was released/out there... a limited release/only at certain stores (and 1 per-case), but available none the less. And you guys in the States had a much better chance of finding one than us guys in Europe and Australia, lol. From what I recall, Harley was fairly easily available on eBay for months - people just didn't want to spend $50+ at the time or wanted to wait and see if their stores would eventually get them. I saw him quite a few times at $50, $75, $90 - but always delayed buying him, thinking he'd become more easily available in stores. And FWIW, I'm in my mid-40's and have a job, responsibilities and a real life... I've also been collecting for 25 years and don't think $50-$100 is ridiculous for a figure that I really want. I can understand why others feel differently, but I'd rather just cut back my spending on other/current figures accordingly (ie. I'd rather have a figure like Harley over 5 of the latest Elites). How dare people refuse to pay 5 times the retail price of a plastic doll. They’re not real Harley Race fans. Hey, we're all different... some people refuse to pay a penny over retail or simply won't get a figure if they can't find it in store/at retail. Sometimes the secondary market is a necessary evil though (especially in the case of Harley/Flashback S3)... so if there's a figure I really wanted - and my only way of getting one was to pay 5 times retail, then yeah, I'd much rather do that (or have the option of doing that) than miss-out/not have the figure at all.
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Post by SteveHulk on May 1, 2019 18:26:51 GMT -5
I can only speak for myself but nowhere near me ever even received the series. In fact, I'm pretty confident that they weren't even within a 450 mile radius of me. Some people found them, swell for them. To me it was never available in stores. For it to be available to me I'd have basically had to tour the country, hopping from Wal-Mart to Wal-Mart to get them, so no the argument that anyone who wanted it bad enough could've gotten it because it was technically released does not apply. There was no reasonable way that I could've acquired one, making the comparison to Hardy applicable to me. I looked everywhere, and on a daily basis. If I'd found a stray Jake or Austin, then yeah, I missed it. But that never happened. Now I don't live where PJ (who apparently found 2) lives, so his situation does not apply to me. To me it was every bit as impossible to get as the Hardy, which was only available via ebay for 4x plus retail. I'm sure I can't be the only one. So for the last time, no it wasn't ing available for everyone who wanted one bad enough. The fact is though, there are places where it was released, therefore it was available... just because it wasn't released in your area or where you looked, doesn't mean it wasn't available in other parts of the country. With respect, it is totally different from the E1 Jeff Hardy situation - where the figure was never actually released and only stolen versions and protypes exist.
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Post by qdogg on May 3, 2019 17:17:06 GMT -5
maybe if we get another Lost Legends wave sometime they can throw Race in there
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Post by Nivro™ on May 4, 2019 17:37:30 GMT -5
If these pop up at let's say Ollies they will only receive one case at a time with 1 Harley per case. Sure the price of the other 3 will drop a bit on eBay. But his price will remain close to the same. Unless he is widely released in let's say next year's wrestlemania wave. Not necessarily, it would all depend on how Ollies distributes them. If one town has figures already in stock they may send 2-3 cases to the next town over. Its how I racked up so many Elite 53 Alexa Bliss figures.
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Post by Medieval on May 4, 2019 18:07:01 GMT -5
If these pop up at let's say Ollies they will only receive one case at a time with 1 Harley per case. Sure the price of the other 3 will drop a bit on eBay. But his price will remain close to the same. Unless he is widely released in let's say next year's wrestlemania wave. Not necessarily, it would all depend on how Ollies distributes them. If one town has figures already in stock they may send 2-3 cases to the next town over. Its how I racked up so many Elite 53 Alexa Bliss figures. Good point.
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Post by JC Motors on May 4, 2019 18:47:51 GMT -5
If these pop up at let's say Ollies they will only receive one case at a time with 1 Harley per case. Sure the price of the other 3 will drop a bit on eBay. But his price will remain close to the same. Unless he is widely released in let's say next year's wrestlemania wave. I doubt Ollie's would get that wave
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Post by Medieval on May 4, 2019 19:00:19 GMT -5
If these pop up at let's say Ollies they will only receive one case at a time with 1 Harley per case. Sure the price of the other 3 will drop a bit on eBay. But his price will remain close to the same. Unless he is widely released in let's say next year's wrestlemania wave. I doubt Ollie's would get that wave They got other Wal-Mart exclusive waves before such as Retro 2 and Elite Tnf series 3.
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Post by The Madness on May 5, 2019 0:10:10 GMT -5
An NWA version would require a different head, but I can see them doing a suited manager version in a Battle Pack with Vader or Lex Luger.
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Post by ClassicFan2 on May 5, 2019 9:03:05 GMT -5
I can only speak for myself but nowhere near me ever even received the series. In fact, I'm pretty confident that they weren't even within a 450 mile radius of me. Some people found them, swell for them. To me it was never available in stores. For it to be available to me I'd have basically had to tour the country, hopping from Wal-Mart to Wal-Mart to get them, so no the argument that anyone who wanted it bad enough could've gotten it because it was technically released does not apply. There was no reasonable way that I could've acquired one, making the comparison to Hardy applicable to me. I looked everywhere, and on a daily basis. If I'd found a stray Jake or Austin, then yeah, I missed it. But that never happened. Now I don't live where PJ (who apparently found 2) lives, so his situation does not apply to me. To me it was every bit as impossible to get as the Hardy, which was only available via ebay for 4x plus retail. I'm sure I can't be the only one. So for the last time, no it wasn't ing available for everyone who wanted one bad enough. The fact is though, there are places where it was released, therefore it was available... just because it wasn't released in your area or where you looked, doesn't mean it wasn't available in other parts of the country. With respect, it is totally different from the E1 Jeff Hardy situation - where the figure was never actually released and only stolen versions and protypes exist. and the fact is though this set had issues! and it wasnt available to everyone. by your theory if we drove across country to every walmart, "it was available". how about your puit some care into your fellow collectors here and hope it gets rereleased so we can all get one. again its childish and selfish to only want a fig for yourself because you were lucky enough to find one. i know because i wouldnt want that to happen to any of you guys, and if i did and stood here with a too bad for you guys, it was at 13 walmarts and on ebay for 2 months you guys missed out. just saying that makes me feel like an a-hole. (esp knowing the issues with the set and being cancelled as it came out. but each to his own i guess.
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Post by Da Handsome 1 on May 5, 2019 11:29:13 GMT -5
maybe if we get another Lost Legends wave sometime they can throw Race in there Awesome idea. Throw Rick Martel,Akeem & the unreleased OMG Elite in there.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 5, 2019 12:39:49 GMT -5
Should mattel release another Harley Race figure ? Of course, will they ? By making another one right away they would be admitting they totally ed things up. So maybe in a few years if they still have the license.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 5, 2019 13:24:02 GMT -5
An NWA version would require a different head, but I can see them doing a suited manager version in a Battle Pack with Vader or Lex Luger. manager version would need a new head too, his hair was much shorter then.
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Post by Gorilla on May 5, 2019 17:28:24 GMT -5
maybe if we get another Lost Legends wave sometime they can throw Race in there Awesome idea. Throw Rick Martel,Akeem & the unreleased OMG Elite in there. There is an unreleased One Man Gang???
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 5, 2019 18:45:36 GMT -5
An NWA version would require a different head, but I can see them doing a suited manager version in a Battle Pack with Vader or Lex Luger. manager version would need a new head too, his hair was much shorter then. He had a mustache for a bunch of his manager WCW run too.
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Post by Da Handsome 1 on May 5, 2019 19:45:13 GMT -5
Awesome idea. Throw Rick Martel,Akeem & the unreleased OMG Elite in there. There is an unreleased One Man Gang??? Yup, been around the internet. So pissed it wasn’t released.
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Post by SteveHulk on May 5, 2019 23:55:20 GMT -5
The fact is though, there are places where it was released, therefore it was available... just because it wasn't released in your area or where you looked, doesn't mean it wasn't available in other parts of the country. With respect, it is totally different from the E1 Jeff Hardy situation - where the figure was never actually released and only stolen versions and protypes exist. and the fact is though this set had issues! and it wasnt available to everyone. by your theory if we drove across country to every walmart, "it was available". how about your puit some care into your fellow collectors here and hope it gets rereleased so we can all get one. again its childish and selfish to only want a fig for yourself because you were lucky enough to find one. i know because i wouldnt want that to happen to any of you guys, and if i did and stood here with a too bad for you guys, it was at 13 walmarts and on ebay for 2 months you guys missed out. just saying that makes me feel like an a-hole. (esp knowing the issues with the set and being cancelled as it came out. but each to his own i guess. I wasn't "lucky enough to find one"... the series wasn't even released in this country(!). And I've actually said if any figure deserved to be re-released, it's this one. But, given that it was released - and the fact that Harley almost definitely wouldn't get another figure - I would much prefer any future release to be a different (NWA) version. If this makes me "childish and selfish" and a terrible human being, then so be it.
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