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Post by Red Dragon on Jul 1, 2020 17:37:51 GMT -5
An't nobody else doing it so I may as well.
The Hall of Fame was last updated 6 years ago. I know the board isn't what it once was but there's plenty of diaries deserving of the HOF which haven't yet been inducted.
Plus, the HOF could do with some new writer inductees. A few obvious choices off the top of my head are Kevin Hart, AJ and HEELRyan.
Opening this up for discussion. Please suggest any diaries and writers for consideration.
I know we used to do a vote but given there's probably not that many active board members, maybe we can just agree between us and the MOD can make the changes?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 18:50:34 GMT -5
I definitely agree. I really enjoy the new activity on the board and think it’s time for some new inductees into the Hall of Fame.
I wish we had a more active mod to help stir up some more activity on this board.
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Post by DTP. on Jul 1, 2020 20:11:39 GMT -5
It's astounding to me that those three aren't already in the Hall of Fame, honestly. Mind you, it was that long ago. I'd like to revive the old "Ask the Booker" interview series too, for any writers interested.
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Post by Bob Bob Bobelow on Jul 2, 2020 14:06:16 GMT -5
It's astounding to me that those three aren't already in the Hall of Fame, honestly. Mind you, it was that long ago. I'd like to revive the old "Ask the Booker" interview series too, for any writers interested. I'd be down for that.
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Post by Red Dragon on Jul 3, 2020 18:05:33 GMT -5
I don't think we're going to get any objections to Kev, AJ and HEELRyan in the HOF. So I think we can go ahead and confirm them. Any other suggestions for writers? Hell, if nobody else is going to nominate me, I'll put my own name out there. In terms of diaries to be inducted, I've had a flick through the last few pages. Seems that there were diaries last inducted in 2016. Here's some worthy inductees in my mind: DTP's The Attitude Project forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/360969/attitude-project-smackdown-october-2000Warriorlynx What if anthologies. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/359277/anthologies-19-jericho-face-wwfDTP and AJ WWENTERTAINMENT forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/358844/dtp-present-wwentertainment-raw-03?page=1 Warriorlynx WWF 93-98 forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/345861/wwf-1993-attitude-survivor-series?page=1Kill Em All WWE 08-10 forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/347116/world-wrestling-entertainment-2008-2010?page=1Warriorlynx WWF 86-91 forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/338975/1986-1991-sting-world-title?page=1Mike Bockwinkel - Mike Bockwinkel Promotions/TCW forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/156152/nick-bockwinkel-promotions-tournament-info An older one but I remember loving this: DTP The NXT Generation forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/311602/nxt-generation-8-2014-postedEven further back: Duan NWL Season 2 (look how much I ripped this off with the WF League, ha!) Season 1 is in the HOF already, no reason Season 2 shouldn't be: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/182334/nwl-national-wrestling-league-seasonKamestou's SCW was a huge inspiration for me. Without it there would be no SNW. I misremembered thinking he only did one SCW diary which is in the HOF but looking into it, only his initial diary is in there (NWL) but the two SCW reboots are not. To me, all three are worthy. I suggest we put the three in as an anthology, even if it's just under one entry. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/80100/scw-12-8-08-newswire?page=1forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/95276/scw-2-noah-results-1Thoughts, comments, suggestions?
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Post by DTP. on Jul 3, 2020 18:58:33 GMT -5
I don't think we're going to get any objections to Kev, AJ and HEELRyan in the HOF. So I think we can go ahead and confirm them. Any other suggestions for writers? Hell, if nobody else is going to nominate me, I'll put my own name out there. In terms of diaries to be inducted, I've had a flick through the last few pages. Seems that there were diaries last inducted in 2016. Here's some worthy inductees in my mind: DTP's The Attitude Project forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/360969/attitude-project-smackdown-october-2000Warriorlynx What if anthologies. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/359277/anthologies-19-jericho-face-wwfDTP and AJ WWENTERTAINMENT forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/358844/dtp-present-wwentertainment-raw-03?page=1 Warriorlynx WWF 93-98 forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/345861/wwf-1993-attitude-survivor-series?page=1Kill Em All WWE 08-10 forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/347116/world-wrestling-entertainment-2008-2010?page=1Warriorlynx WWF 86-91 forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/338975/1986-1991-sting-world-title?page=1Mike Bockwinkel - Mike Bockwinkel Promotions/TCW forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/156152/nick-bockwinkel-promotions-tournament-info An older one but I remember loving this: DTP The NXT Generation forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/311602/nxt-generation-8-2014-postedEven further back: Duan NWL Season 2 (look how much I ripped this off with the WF League, ha!) Season 1 is in the HOF already, no reason Season 2 shouldn't be: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/182334/nwl-national-wrestling-league-seasonKamestou's SCW was a huge inspiration for me. Without it there would be no SNW. I misremembered thinking he only did one SCW diary which is in the HOF but looking into it, only his initial diary is in there (NWL) but the two SCW reboots are not. To me, all three are worthy. I suggest we put the three in as an anthology, even if it's just under one entry. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/80100/scw-12-8-08-newswire?page=1forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/95276/scw-2-noah-results-1Thoughts, comments, suggestions? Flattered. I think about NXT 2014 pretty often. I had two years of stuff booked for that, keeping in mind that was around the time WWE started scooping up guys from the indies and Japan. I even had a Tyler Breeze run with the NXT Heavyweight Championship in store come 2015. Sadly, the graphics no longer exist with TinyPic out of the Pic-ture, and I'm remaining committed to the Attitude Project and beyond with what spare time I have these days. I think that's a fine list, I've had a look back myself and I can't see much in the way of tenured diaries deserving. It's a shame looking back at all of those new faces that posted a show that looked and read great, but didn't make it anywhere past that.
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Post by Red Dragon on Jul 4, 2020 2:50:22 GMT -5
Cheers, what started as a quick look at the Board to find any HOF related diaries turned into a bit of a deep dive. If something is worth doing, it's worth doing well, right?
Re your NXT diary, I think it got overlooked previously and just because the graphics no longer work, doesn't make it any less worthy. I am loving your attitude diary at the moment, probably my favourite which I can remember from you which is saying a lot considering what you've produced over the years. Even though it's still running it's deserving because if it ended today, it's good enough to go in.
I made my feelings clear a few years ago on what I think makes a HOF diary. For me, there needs to be an element of longevity. It could be the best diary in the World but only last 2 pages and I wouldn't consider that a HOF diary. But the focus should still be on the writing/booking.
C'mon folks, any other thoughts/suggestions?
Also looking the MOD to confirm their willing to make the necessary changes to the HOF thread.
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Post by DTP. on Jul 4, 2020 7:45:13 GMT -5
Cheers, what started as a quick look at the Board to find any HOF related diaries turned into a bit of a deep dive. If something is worth doing, it's worth doing well, right? Re your NXT diary, I think it got overlooked previously and just because the graphics no longer work, doesn't make it any less worthy. I am loving your attitude diary at the moment, probably my favourite which I can remember from you which is saying a lot considering what you've produced over the years. Even though it's still running it's deserving because if it ended today, it's good enough to go in. I made my feelings clear a few years ago on what I think makes a HOF diary. For me, there needs to be an element of longevity. It could be the best diary in the World but only last 2 pages and I wouldn't consider that a HOF diary. But the focus should still be on the writing/booking. C'mon folks, any other thoughts/suggestions? Also looking the MOD to confirm their willing to make the necessary changes to the HOF thread. Might be worth PMing him. Dude is active on WF but seems to completely ignore the board at this stage.
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Jul 4, 2020 12:29:59 GMT -5
SCW was the first place I used the Mike Bockwinkel character. If I remember correctly, Kametsu pushed me well.
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Post by Bob Bob Bobelow on Jul 4, 2020 15:04:19 GMT -5
I don't think we're going to get any objections to Kev, AJ and HEELRyan in the HOF. So I think we can go ahead and confirm them. Any other suggestions for writers? Hell, if nobody else is going to nominate me, I'll put my own name out there. In terms of diaries to be inducted, I've had a flick through the last few pages. Seems that there were diaries last inducted in 2016. Here's some worthy inductees in my mind: DTP's The Attitude Project forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/360969/attitude-project-smackdown-october-2000Warriorlynx What if anthologies. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/359277/anthologies-19-jericho-face-wwfDTP and AJ WWENTERTAINMENT forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/358844/dtp-present-wwentertainment-raw-03?page=1 Warriorlynx WWF 93-98 forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/345861/wwf-1993-attitude-survivor-series?page=1Kill Em All WWE 08-10 forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/347116/world-wrestling-entertainment-2008-2010?page=1Warriorlynx WWF 86-91 forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/338975/1986-1991-sting-world-title?page=1Mike Bockwinkel - Mike Bockwinkel Promotions/TCW forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/156152/nick-bockwinkel-promotions-tournament-info An older one but I remember loving this: DTP The NXT Generation forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/311602/nxt-generation-8-2014-postedEven further back: Duan NWL Season 2 (look how much I ripped this off with the WF League, ha!) Season 1 is in the HOF already, no reason Season 2 shouldn't be: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/182334/nwl-national-wrestling-league-seasonKamestou's SCW was a huge inspiration for me. Without it there would be no SNW. I misremembered thinking he only did one SCW diary which is in the HOF but looking into it, only his initial diary is in there (NWL) but the two SCW reboots are not. To me, all three are worthy. I suggest we put the three in as an anthology, even if it's just under one entry. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/80100/scw-12-8-08-newswire?page=1forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/95276/scw-2-noah-results-1Thoughts, comments, suggestions? If you're gonna throw your name out there, I'll throw mine out there, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 15:55:19 GMT -5
It's astounding to me that those three aren't already in the Hall of Fame, honestly. Mind you, it was that long ago. I'd like to revive the old "Ask the Booker" interview series too, for any writers interested. You already know I'm down for that.
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Post by Red Dragon on Jul 7, 2020 16:11:25 GMT -5
I've contacted the MOD but haven't heard back. I'll give him some time but can chase. If not, I can escalate to get this sorted.
Any other thoughts? I realise it's basically just me putting stuff forward so would appreciate some input.
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Post by DTP. on Jul 7, 2020 18:29:42 GMT -5
There's not a lot else to really suggest here. This is all that's left. Granted, it's a healthier board compared to what it was a year or so ago. Dark times.
Here are some thoughts I've had about the state of the board, and how we could look at its future.
The major thing I can suggest is new help and guidelines. We can definitely afford to appear more enticing and welcoming to new starters, if there's even any interest at all. Not to mention the landscape has changed greatly since those old guides went up.
The board gets a lot of hits. I've noticed view counts are impressively up the last few months. Nobody's replying, and that's okay. In particular I can't help but notice the Attitude Project receives 100 hits in a day after posting RAW or SmackDown. I similarly keep an eye on others. So there are people out there.
My theory is that people know what Sims diaries are *vaguely*, but not how easy, fun and creatively liberating it can be to write your own universe and understanding. People love to fantasy book in normal life, I see it and hear it every day in real life and on social media. I get the impression site visitors members or guests look through our work and find themselves overwhelmed, like there's too much work to put in here. When that's actually all down to choice and creative licence. In bare bones form, it can be so easy to set up shop and start rolling with it.
We can do with a re-haul of the rules, most are practically obsolete as it is with the lack of an acting MOD.
It's not promotion, but as history as shown, Sims is such an incredible niche as it is on WF. People would much rather text/pic fed, or fantasy book (also, lmao at this point we are one and the same). Banners in signatures and posts in other boards do very little.
I've noticed the board comes in waves of activity and inactivity. All we can really do outside of these ideas is wait and see.
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Post by ✖ AJ on Jul 7, 2020 23:35:31 GMT -5
I think it would be a good way for promotion of the board if we could do the spotlight thing again, maybe just a weekly selection, but instead of just pinning it on the sims board put it across the whole board. Also, thanks for the appreciation for myself, as well as DTP. and I's 2003, which is on pause but will have more coming in due time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 13:29:06 GMT -5
There's not a lot else to really suggest here. This is all that's left. Granted, it's a healthier board compared to what it was a year or so ago. Dark times. Here are some thoughts I've had about the state of the board, and how we could look at its future. The major thing I can suggest is new help and guidelines. We can definitely afford to appear more enticing and welcoming to new starters, if there's even any interest at all. Not to mention the landscape has changed greatly since those old guides went up. The board gets a lot of hits. I've noticed view counts are impressively up the last few months. Nobody's replying, and that's okay. In particular I can't help but notice the Attitude Project receives 100 hits in a day after posting RAW or SmackDown. I similarly keep an eye on others. So there are people out there. My theory is that people know what Sims diaries are *vaguely*, but not how easy, fun and creatively liberating it can be to write your own universe and understanding. People love to fantasy book in normal life, I see it and hear it every day in real life and on social media. I get the impression site visitors members or guests look through our work and find themselves overwhelmed, like there's too much work to put in here. When that's actually all down to choice and creative licence. In bare bones form, it can be so easy to set up shop and start rolling with it.We can do with a re-haul of the rules, most are practically obsolete as it is with the lack of an acting MOD. It's not promotion, but as history as shown, Sims is such an incredible niche as it is on WF. People would much rather text/pic fed, or fantasy book (also, lmao at this point we are one and the same). Banners in signatures and posts in other boards do very little. I've noticed the board comes in waves of activity and inactivity. All we can really do outside of these ideas is wait and see. I think merging this board and the Fantasy Booking board and renaming it as "Be The Booker" or something of the like could potentially grow writership. 98% of the diaries posted here over the last few years don't use any wrestling simulation games as a base. This is fantasy booking.
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Jul 9, 2020 15:20:39 GMT -5
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Post by Red Dragon on Jul 9, 2020 17:21:29 GMT -5
I've contacted the MOD again so hoping we can get a response. I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt as it's a strange time at the moment so his priorities may be elsewhere. But we still need this sorted.
I've also contacted an Admin as a heads up and also spoke about whether there's a possibility they would give me temporary MOD access so I can update what I need to update and then revoke my abilities. I'm not holding out on this but thought I'd ask. It's also only a short term option and we'd need to think of something long-term.
I agree with all said about regarding the Board. I do think we need to think about how feasible some of these ideas (like is it actually feasible to have a spotlight across the entire forum? Maybe I'm being pessimistic here but I can't see that being agreed). With all these ideas we'd also need people to commit to doing the work, so whilst I agree the rules and guidelines need updating, someone needs to actually do the work.
I'm happy with the writers and diaries nominated here. Re GATTACA wasn't there another thread off the back of this, if you're able to find it maybe we can put them in together as an anthology like I planned for SCW? Re the writers (Kev, AJ, HEELRyan, me and Bob) I'm happy to do the introduction speeches but more than happy if someone else wanted to take one or all of these.
In the interest of full disclosure, I really want to get this sorted ASAP. I don't want to commit to anything after 2 weeks time as I'm expecting to be busy in my personal life so may not have time for this Board in the short term. Of course, it may end up being fine but just wanted to mention it in case I disappear in two weeks time.
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Post by KvE on Jul 10, 2020 1:52:34 GMT -5
The new GATTACA only lasted like a week so I wouldn’t even bother with it.
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Post by KvE on Jul 10, 2020 1:57:12 GMT -5
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