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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 7, 2020 10:56:46 GMT -5
Ok, don’t freak out. I’m not saying they’ll sell more, I’m not saying Mattel is crap, but I’m SUPER impressed with the AEW figures in hand. The few AEW figures that I have I love. I intend on getting the rest when I finally see them, but after careful thought and analysis I think that if they continue on the path that they’re on they could become a better overall product. Why? They feel sturdier, the torso piece (in my opinion) is superior in look and playability to Elites (I have no Ultimates, I really don’t like the way that they look). The bodies look more like real human bodies than the stick torsos of some of the smaller Elites. Comparing Jerichos alone I’d say the AEW Jerichos are far superior to the Mattel WWE Jerichos. Even in 2010 Jericho didn’t have the svelte waist and stick legs that he’s been given. The AEW Codys are far better too, but I’m not sure that’s a fair comparison since he’s changed so much. No, I’m not saying Mattel is crap, they have some amazing figures that I’d put against any ever released, but I will say that, in spite of skin tones and mascara, AEW figures have blown me away. I really can’t wait for series 2 and guys like Luchasaurus, Brodie Lee, Cage, etc. I really want to see what they can do with the bigger guys.
This is just, like, my opinion, man
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Post by rastlinfigures on Aug 7, 2020 11:20:33 GMT -5
These are generally, in my opinion, better than elites and just as good as the Ultimate Editions (but better looking torsos).
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Post by bababooey on Aug 7, 2020 11:24:35 GMT -5
While I do like Elites, I do agree that these are better. They’re essentially a good hybrid between Elites and Ultimates, and they’re around the price of Elites. Really, my biggest complaint is the skin-tone crotch joint. I’m not really bothered by the skin tones on the body. I’ll probably notice it more when it’s improved though.
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Post by PJ on Aug 7, 2020 11:25:30 GMT -5
It’s a wait and see for me. Just off my Bubbly Jericho. My major concern is the lower torso being made of either a soft plastic or rubber. If it’s rubber I am worried in a year or two it’ll start cracking like every other figure that uses a rubber eco-skeleton. I know someone said they talked to the designer and he said it’ll be fine. But we won’t really know for sure until the figures have actually aged a couple years. Plus I am sure that part will 100% be a dust/dirt magnet. And a knit pick would be Jericho’s shins are to thick. They’re as thick as his thighs.
But for me it’s all about how the lower abs survive the aging.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 11:30:54 GMT -5
They're better.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 7, 2020 11:50:12 GMT -5
Not as hot of a take as you think. I think these are stellar. Series 2 will be a really good indication.
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Post by stc13 on Aug 7, 2020 12:43:23 GMT -5
I don't have any figures in hand yet, but I'm inclined to agree.
And it's not really that shocking to me. The figures both have the same MSRP, but Jazwares is undoubtedly paying a heck of a lot less in licensing than Mattel is with WWE. That extra money creates opportunities to pour money into the figures. Mattel is also working off of a 10 year old design that has seen very few updates to their molds and overall design. Even the UE figures just add a new torso onto the standard figure build.
Magic was allowed to build a figure from scratch, incorporating all the developments and improvements figures have seen over the past decade. And Jazwares as a small, privately held company is going to have more freedom. Mattel is a global brand that is pretty conservative and straight laced.
Mattel has the big names and star power. So Jazwares has to leverage what's at their disposal to create a successful line in the same space. Added play/pose-ability. Standout clothgoods. Tapping into the collector market. Making legends that Mattel hasn't/can't. And I think we'll continue to see innovation from Jazwares. I really like the team they have on this line, and the creativity they're bringing.
They can both be successful lines. But I'm absolutely loving everything I've seen from Jazwares at a time when my interest in Mattel has been waning for a couple of years.
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Post by guster on Aug 7, 2020 12:44:27 GMT -5
Really, my biggest complaint is the skin-tone crotch joint. I’m not really bothered by the skin tones on the body. Yes, this one is puzzling since no-one in S1 is wearing trunks. To me, these are just as nice as Ultimates. I like the design of the hands for Mattel better, but that's really the only thing Mattel is doing better than Jazzwares IMO. I've seen critiques from people that the plastic "seems cheap" which I don't understand. The Jericho figure is a hoss when you pick it up. I think after Series 3, 4 and 5 will be the real litmus test. By then, they'll have a decent selection of parts to re-use and we'll really see how much unique tooling they'll going forward or if they cut corners using re-used parts that may not be the best choices. |
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Post by k5 on Aug 7, 2020 13:11:10 GMT -5
haven't collected figures in 13 years, and these got me right back into it.
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Post by isloth on Aug 7, 2020 13:19:11 GMT -5
I just got my figures in about an hour ago and I can easily say these are better quality than Elites. I don’t have an Ultimate to compare it to but the torsos do look A LOT better. The articulation are these are so much better as are the accessories.
I think once the scans and skintones improve they’ll be way ahead of Mattel in my opinion.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Aug 7, 2020 13:23:10 GMT -5
I’m inclined to agree. I stopped collecting wrestling figures about 9 years ago. In fact, I don’t even have any wrestling figures in my home, they’re all boxed up at my mom’s house until I can go through them to sell. But I’m going to start collecting these figures. They look fantastic, and it’s a way to support a brand I’m excited about.
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Post by B-Radimus Prime on Aug 7, 2020 14:55:23 GMT -5
I just got the whole series from RSC and I can, without a doubt, say these figures are WAY better than Elites. They feel perfect to me.
One of the main MUSTS for me in a wrestling figure is that they are capable of doing bridging German Suplexes. So.
I can’t wait to see how the female wrestling figures in this line turn out (as Brandi is more of a valet version).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 14:57:32 GMT -5
I’m freaking out at your take!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 15:08:30 GMT -5
Too be fair, Jazzwares had a good template to go off of with elites. If Mattel hadn't been so good at their figs, then I doubt Jazzwares would've had a launch line look as good as these.
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Post by marvelelite on Aug 7, 2020 15:08:31 GMT -5
Jazeware might have just killed the ultimate edition line, not nakamura would be more of a hot take.
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Post by HooliganPunx24 on Aug 7, 2020 15:33:05 GMT -5
Way easier to customize
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Post by HothHan on Aug 7, 2020 15:36:14 GMT -5
Not really a "hot take"...
Anyway I haven't collected wrestling figures in over 10+ years and these have got me interested in again. Obviously finding AEW as a more entertaining product than the current WWE nonsense helps but I collect other lines with little to no media tie ins that interest me (Power Rangers for example; I've watched maybe an hour of Power Rangers on TV in the past 25+ years but I collect the Lightning Collection figures). Even without AEW being a competent TV product I'd probably still be into these because they are good figures.
Also Mattel is just bad at everything. They messed up the Batman license...how do you mess up Batman? 'Cause Mattel...
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Post by Robz PippinRoad on Aug 7, 2020 16:31:43 GMT -5
I’m in absolute agreement already intend to thin the herd on elites that I have bought since jumping back into collecting in early May which is actually quite a few should’ve trusted my gut and waited on these lol but I’ll get to that when I finally get to a day where I’m not going to 3-7 Walmart’s daily lol ( so most likely after the 12th ) I already had everything on pre order including series 2 so I’ll just continue w this method going forward and on down that road Got my shipping notice on my second series 1 delivery a couple days ago that one will stay mock So the Walmart runs are specifically just for chase / rare and Brandi since that the only one I never ordered assuming it would be a potential peg warmer in series one Very smart of them to short pack it now I’ll just have fun hunting it down And getting a few extras for customs pain maker Jericho w series one version so extra one Cody w tattoo added extra one And considering how easy it will be to swap torso’s and update series 1 gear w better skin tones later maybe some extras for that too  |
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Post by Robz PippinRoad on Aug 7, 2020 17:12:11 GMT -5
Too be fair, Jazzwares had a good template to go off of with elites. If Mattel hadn't been so good at their figs, then I doubt Jazzwares would've had a launch line look as good as these. Which in return Mattel benefited from the groundwork Jeremy and others laid the first time around at Jakks and love the direct Classic Series tip of the hat he’s given to Unrivaled Series packaging |
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Post by NYdream™ on Aug 7, 2020 19:34:00 GMT -5
It’s a wait and see for me. Just off my Bubbly Jericho. My major concern is the lower torso being made of either a soft plastic or rubber. If it’s rubber I am worried in a year or two it’ll start cracking like every other figure that uses a rubber eco-skeleton. I know someone said they talked to the designer and he said it’ll be fine. But we won’t really know for sure until the figures have actually aged a couple years. Plus I am sure that part will 100% be a dust/dirt magnet. And a knit pick would be Jericho’s shins are to thick. They’re as thick as his thighs. But for me it’s all about how the lower abs survive the aging. Coming straight from magic it’s not made of rubber. It’s pvc. Just a softer form than the rest of the torso. Probably to aid in the popping off of the torso peg. |
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