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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 17, 2020 15:11:57 GMT -5
Anyone else feel like Brock was being positioned to be the one to end the streak (once they began recognizing it), even before it happened in 2014? Taker has always spoken of his respect for Brock, and even back during his initial run from 2002-2004, Brock was the one “young guy” that Taker just couldn’t seem to get the better of. Then while Brock was in the UFC there were constant rumors of the WWE and UFC having a crossover match between Brock and Taker (they crossed paths after one of Brock’s title defenses as well). It always seemed like Vince was subtly hinting that Brock was the one he wanted to end the streak at some point (and I know that Angle and Orton have both said they were originally going over Taker at WM, but this was after Brock had originally left).
Just curious if anyone else feels that Brock always seemed like the endgame for the streak, even when Brock had his 8 year hiatus?
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Post by nibs92 on Nov 17, 2020 15:51:26 GMT -5
I doubt McMahon and co ever thought that far ahead. At a guess it was probably called on the fly to add shock value to the WM card.
Some of the booking over the last 10 years or so has been down right awful.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2020 21:06:29 GMT -5
I doubt McMahon and co ever thought that far ahead. At a guess it was probably called on the fly to add shock value to the WM card. Some of the booking over the last 10 years or so has been down right awful. Over the last 20 really. |
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Post by LA Times on Nov 17, 2020 21:38:44 GMT -5
I always thought HHH had the best chance of ending the streak, for obvious reasons.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Nov 18, 2020 1:25:30 GMT -5
I doubt McMahon and co ever thought that far ahead. At a guess it was probably called on the fly to add shock value to the WM card. Some of the booking over the last 10 years or so has been down right awful. It never feels like a coordinated effort. Cena/Rock II was one of the last really planned and coordinated stories. No matter the opinion on it. The story was cohesive. Cena's life goes downhill, worst year of his life, demands retribution, hell n back, etc. Edge Vs. Taker was planned in 07, and was always planned for Edge and Taker to go to Mania at 24. Even with injuries we got it. Today it just feels like flip the dime. Nothing has clear direction. Seth Rollins becoming one of the biggest faces in the industry in 2017. Then; turning Heel. And I liked the turn personally. And how he has some cult like faction. But you turned him Heel in 2019, along with AJ Styles. Two Top baby faces. You turn Reigns Heel in 2020. There goes another Babyface. So now we have like Drew Mcintyre as one of the only leading baby faces. It isn't this clear set up. Where you have clear designated Faces/Heels. Late RA/Early PG Era for while was built around Edge, Orton, Chris Jericho, later on Cm Punk being the four 4 main bad guys. John Cena, Batista, Jeff Hardy, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, Triple H were the main Faces. Some level of structure. |
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Post by hbkjason on Nov 18, 2020 1:38:49 GMT -5
Even now the only one I think who would have made sense to end the streak was Randy Orton in 2005.
It still makes me mad to think that they pissed away two decades of something awesome for the five minutes of shock value that followed it. Brock looked no stronger at all for beating the Undertaker. Instead, they took one of the last feel-good things wrestling had and flushed it down the toilet for no reason at all.
But hey, at least now we get at least 10000 camera shots a year of dudes with a forced look of shock on their face.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Nov 18, 2020 7:27:57 GMT -5
Maybe provided Brock didn't break the streak and there was no covid. Taker would have kept it till this past year and then lost to Roman in almost a squash situation. He would get a small flurry with a chokeslam and tombstone but otherwise get destroyed. Then Roman could have begun his current heel run a few months earlier with the added streak ending retired Taker dynamic.
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Post by k5 on Nov 18, 2020 9:42:59 GMT -5
Lesnar rattled undertaker and big show by taking off after they'd given a lot to get the  er over. Big show was vocal about it and still puts brock under the bus when given a chance, claiming Cena was stronger than Brock. Taker seemingly couldn't get over the idea of a Brock return match, and with the story he wanted to tell of the old gunfighter vs the young beast, he was the right candidate. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 18, 2020 10:13:33 GMT -5
Even now the only one I think who would have made sense to end the streak was Randy Orton in 2005. It still makes me mad to think that they pissed away two decades of something awesome for the five minutes of shock value that followed it. Brock looked no stronger at all for beating the Undertaker. Instead, they took one of the last feel-good things wrestling had and flushed it down the toilet for no reason at all. But hey, at least now we get at least 10000 camera shots a year of dudes with a forced look of shock on their face. I think the issue with Lesnar ending the streak for me is that nobody benefitted from beating Brock. At the time, Brock seemed to be in limbo. Since returning, he had lost his return match to Cena, went 2-1 against HHH (and lost their biggest match at WM), beat Punk in a close contest, and beat up Big Show with a chair. Lesnar, while portrayed as a monster, was booked pretty lousy. When he ended the streak, it seemed to rejuvenate his character and we had a new final boss, or a “Shao Khan” for someone to overcome. The issue is that after Brock dominated Cena, nobody seemed to get the rub from him. Vince was so dead-set on Roman being “the guy” that he wasted a lot of talent over the next four and a half years trying to get fans to love Roman. By the time we got to SummerSlam 2018, Roman didn’t even get a clean win over Brock. I didn’t have a problem with Brock being the guy to do it. My problem is we never got a satisfying story of anyone overcoming Brock. It hurt the overall roster and WWE as a whole IMO because the company felt like it was stuck in a stand-still for over four years. |
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