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Post by jason88cubs on Feb 4, 2021 19:53:57 GMT -5
1) The DX "tank". Now a days its built a sthe HUGE turning point in the MONDAY NIGHT WARS and it destroyed WCW
WRONG. it happened in 1998. April 27th. Raw was beating NITRO but it was a close battle and NITRO was winning some weeks
2)Fingerpoke of doom. It didnt kill WCW. Ratings didnt go down because of this, it took months for the ratings to fall constantly under 4 million
3)Shane Mcmahon showing up on NITRO. Sweet! More Mcmahon vs Mcmahon! Just what we all wanted!
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 4, 2021 22:31:55 GMT -5
Those are some good ones for sure!
The Finger Poke of Doom always bothered me too. That was January 4th 1999, and WCW died March of 2001. There was actually a lot of entertaining, good matches in that time span for WCW. Just WWF was so hot and on fire with things that no way could WCW catch up again.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Feb 5, 2021 1:21:47 GMT -5
The screwjob. There isn't anything more that could ever be said about it to add anything of note whatsover. Let's all agree to only speak about on 10 year anniversary intervals like 30 years, 40 years, I'll even accept 25 years. But other than that, STOP.
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Post by JokerFC on Feb 5, 2021 5:51:26 GMT -5
Disagree in part about the Fingerpoke. It didn't kill WCW...but I don't think people say that really. They had TONS of opportunities to fix things after it but didn't...it was the beginning of the end 100%.
It was a pivotal moment that turned heaps of people off. What went on in the weeks afterwards was even worse.
They showed after it they hadn't got clue one what the fans wanted. Buyrates & ratings started to decline slowly but steadily after this.
It's importance CANT be overstated for loads of reasons.
It showed WCW were completely bereft of new ideas & a storyline that ran since spring stampede was blown in 5 minutes.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 5, 2021 18:51:24 GMT -5
I hate when people say "_____ killed WCW".......Jamie Kellner killed WCW, nothing more....nothing less
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 19:06:02 GMT -5
Cena “returning” at MSG RR.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Feb 5, 2021 21:20:49 GMT -5
I think the entire "Monday Night Wars" topic has been discussed to death at this point. No doubt it was an amazing time to be a wrestling fan, but the major story arcs and events from that period feel pretty stale being discussed for the millionth time.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 5, 2021 21:28:04 GMT -5
People view The Finger Poke of Doom as some kind of poison that killed their promotion and the worst segment of all time. In all honesty I've have seen worse stuff that has closed Raw and Smackdowns in the past.
I remember Raw closing with Mr McMahon's kiss my ass club and DX having a parody match for the European title in 97. The Finger Poke of Doom was way better than some of the stuff WWE has give us.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Feb 6, 2021 0:56:40 GMT -5
People view The Finger Poke of Doom as some kind of poison that killed their promotion and the worst segment of all time. In all honesty I've have seen worse stuff that has closed Raw and Smackdowns in the past. I remember Raw closing with Mr McMahon's kiss my ass club and DX having a parody match for the European title in 97. The Finger Poke of Doom was way better than some of the stuff WWE has give us. Agreed, but history is written by the victors. |
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Post by bige on Feb 6, 2021 1:10:42 GMT -5
Raw vs nitro
Goldberg streak
Ric flair in story lines
Finger poke of doom
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Feb 6, 2021 1:15:35 GMT -5
attitude era
goldberg
cena moments
edge moments
dx moments
the reuse of nicknames or stable names (4 horsewomen...cringe)
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Post by JokerFC on Feb 6, 2021 11:58:16 GMT -5
People view The Finger Poke of Doom as some kind of poison that killed their promotion and the worst segment of all time. In all honesty I've have seen worse stuff that has closed Raw and Smackdowns in the past. I remember Raw closing with Mr McMahon's kiss my ass club and DX having a parody match for the European title in 97. The Finger Poke of Doom was way better than some of the stuff WWE has give us. There's been loads of worse stuff on Raw & SD!....but it wasn't as damaging as this. Now here's something people need to stop doing....comparing HBK vs HHH for the European title to Hogan vs Nash for the World belt in mock matches...& it needs to stop yesterday. HBK vs HHH angle ran one show they werent feuding...it was a FU to Slaughter...and it did as it was intended to do, get DX heat & get the belt off HBK & keep it on a heel without making him look weak. Success 100% on all levels...Euro title was restored to importance as it remained focal in the stories for months afterwards. Hall vs Hogan/black vs red... ran for 9 months....WCW revolved around it. It involved EVERY major star in the promotion except DDP & Goldberg. They ended a feud that the promotion put their entire f*cking year into at the expense of everyone else...just like that. No payoff......then they just moved on. Goldberg never got his revenge & Hogan turned face. Absolute farce & shows to this day how clueless they were. They hadn't even got the cop on to get a big PPV match out of Hogan vs Nash...they do the swerve the next night. Ludicrous to compare the two. HBK vs HHH was fresh, new and a WTF moment. DX fans loved it....DX haters hated it. Hogan vs Nash was WTF...and NOT in a good way. Nash * the Wolfpac were OVER...CRAZY. flushed it.....Wolfpac fans hated it.... I watched it at the time as an 18 year old. It was SH*TE. |
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Feb 6, 2021 16:54:12 GMT -5
The screwjob. There isn't anything more that could ever be said about it to add anything of note whatsover. Let's all agree to only speak about on 10 year anniversary intervals like 30 years, 40 years, I'll even accept 25 years. But other than that, STOP. Bret Screwed Bret...But seriously yeah, maybe save the talk for the anniversaries. Plus it wasn't the only screwjob, Wendi Richter anyone? |
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Post by Grenouille on Feb 6, 2021 18:58:55 GMT -5
For me the majority of the Attitude era has aged like milk left out on a hot day.
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Post by JokerFC on Feb 6, 2021 18:59:30 GMT -5
The screwjob. There isn't anything more that could ever be said about it to add anything of note whatsover. Let's all agree to only speak about on 10 year anniversary intervals like 30 years, 40 years, I'll even accept 25 years. But other than that, STOP. Bret Screwed Bret...But seriously yeah, maybe save the talk for the anniversaries. Plus it wasn't the only screwjob, Wendi Richter anyone? Yup..poor Wendi gets overlooked completely!! |
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Post by Rocky Balboa on Feb 6, 2021 19:06:56 GMT -5
Anything with DX and nWo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 23:35:19 GMT -5
Anytime I hear how Raw is the longest running episodic show on tv!
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Post by JimRiga on Feb 7, 2021 9:07:51 GMT -5
“Well let me tell you something, brother! I’m The Immortal Hulk Hogan and I picked up the 10 ton Andre the Giant right over my head and slammed him down causing his death, brother!! The whole world heard that slam and it took place at the Pontiac Silverdome at Wrestlemania 3 in 1987 and Hulkamania ran wild forever, brother!!”
Although I admit it was still a cool thing, I just don’t think there’s any need for him to constantly bring it up.
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Post by PJ on Feb 7, 2021 12:11:58 GMT -5
The whole blind love of the Attitude Era. To me it’s no better or worse than any other era. It had stuff that was good, and a lot that wasn’t just like any other past era yet it’s talked about like it’s the greatest thing ever.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Feb 7, 2021 12:23:02 GMT -5
The whole blind love of the Attitude Era. To me it’s no better or worse than any other era. It had stuff that was good, and a lot that wasn’t just like any other past era yet it’s talked about like it’s the greatest thing ever. It's the fact it made wrestling must see, cliffhanger, soap opera TV and lets be honest, it was pretty damn great televison at that. The ratings proved it. Add to that some of the greatest superstars and storylines in company history and you have the top 2 if not 1 greatest era in wrestling history. People say it has aged badly but that is not what wrestling is about. But even still, people will always remember and speak about it fondly, so that shows it clearly has stood the test of time. It had way more good than bad, and much of that good is the best thing wrestling has ever seen. |
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