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Post by hbkjason on Feb 7, 2021 8:19:33 GMT -5
Hey guys thought this might be a fun topic to talk about on here. The rise and fall of a wrestler from o e WrestleMania to the next.
I have a o e of each to get us started.
Demolition WrestleMania VI to VII FALL
I loved Demolition as a kid and at WrestleMania VI the cheers they got at the start and end of their match were only matched by Hogan and Warrior. They were one of the most popular acts the WWF had at the time and them winning their final tag titles at WrestleMania VI was a moment I loved.
Fast forward just one year later to WrestleMania VII and to say that they were a shadow of their former selves is a massive understatement and I say this as someone who liked Crush. They were jobbed out to two guys I would wager 90 percent of the audience had no clue who they were! It really sucked to see Demolition go out like this it all happened in such a short time too. I loved Demolition,but I must admit that I was all in on the Legion of Doom when they arrived and the WWF wasted no time putting Demolition out to pasture.
Steve Austin WrestleMania XII to 13 RISE
Now to be fair the thing Steve Austin had going with Savio Vega was a ton of fun and a damn fine little mid card story. I feel that they had a decent match at WrestleMania XII, but the jump from his position on the card here to WrestleMania 13 could only have been bigger had him and Bret main evented the show themselves!
While King of the Ring 1996 had the Austin train leaving the station. It was his match at WrestleMania 13 that really rocketed him to the top as one of the top guys in the company. He went from being one of the main undercard stories to THE story in just a year.
I would love to hear you guys thoughts on the two I have picked and also a few of your own. Another one that springs to my mind as a fall is Sgt Slaughter from VII to VII, but let me know what guys you feel had a major career shift from one mania to the next.
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Post by jason88cubs on Feb 7, 2021 8:25:09 GMT -5
Macho Man going from main eventing Wrestlemania 5 to a mixed tag match in Wrestlemania 6
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Feb 7, 2021 8:32:29 GMT -5
King Kong Bundy going from headlining Wrestlemania 2 to being in a 6 man tag with dwarves at Wrestlemania 3.
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Post by JimRiga on Feb 7, 2021 8:43:19 GMT -5
Rise: Bret Hart lost the tag titles at Wrestlemania 7 and won back the IC title in a torch passing match against Roddy Piper at Wrestlemania 8.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 7, 2021 8:53:42 GMT -5
Fall: The miz. Went from beating John cena in the main event of wrestlemania 27 to being in a 12 man tag team match at wrestlemania 28.
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Post by JimRiga on Feb 7, 2021 9:11:26 GMT -5
Fall: Ricky Steamboat winning the IC title in a highly regarded match at Mania 3 and then losing in the first round of the World title tournament without making a dent on history in a forgettable match at Mania 4.
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Post by MKSavage on Feb 7, 2021 9:47:40 GMT -5
Fall: Ricky Steamboat winning the IC title in a highly regarded match at Mania 3 and then losing in the first round of the World title tournament without making a dent on history in a forgettable match at Mania 4. That would have been great if Steamboat beat Hammer and we got Savage/Steamboat II at WM4. |
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Post by MKSavage on Feb 7, 2021 9:49:22 GMT -5
Savage, WM7 to WM8 Savage was retired at WM7 then a year later was crowned the WWF Champion at WM8. I would call that a rise.  Savage, WM8 to WM9 Won the WWF title at WM8 then a year later was in the booth as an announcer at WM9, I would call that a fall.  |
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Feb 7, 2021 10:44:12 GMT -5
Triple H
Mania 12 had him job to the Warrior and then 4 years later he’s the champ. Rise
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Feb 7, 2021 10:46:15 GMT -5
Rise: Tker stunk up the joint with Bundy at 11 and then had a really good match with Diesel at 12
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Post by The Brain on Feb 7, 2021 13:18:16 GMT -5
Rise- Tatanka facing Martel at WM VIII to facing HBK at IX for IC belt
Fall-Rude winning IC Title at V to facing Snuka in a filler match at VI
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Post by Evil Abed on Feb 7, 2021 13:40:34 GMT -5
Fall: Daniel Bryan Mania 30 to Mania 31 — You can probably attribute some of this due to his neck injury but he was back for a decent enough time before Mania 31 to have a solid feud. He went from biggest star in the company at the Main Event of Mania 30 beating all 3 members of Evolution in the same night to wrestling in your annual Multi Man “We Don’t Know What to Do With You” ladder match the next year.
Fall: Cesaro Mania 30 to Mania 31 — Winning the First Andre Battle Royal to wrestling in another multi man tag match on the preshow.
Fall: Jericho from Mania 28 to Mania 29 — Going from competing for the WWE Title to losing to Fandango in the span of a year.
Fall: Bray Wyatt from Mania 33 to Mania 34 — Going from WWE Champion to not even being on the card. Albeit cant really blame this one, that match with Orton belongs in the Wrestlecrap Hall of Fame.
Rise: Stone Cold Steve Austin Mania 12 to Mania 13 — Going from competing lower mid card against Savio Vega to arguably the most iconic match of his career a year later against Bret Hart.
Rise: Sheamus Mania 27 to Mania 28 — Going from Preshow match that devolved into a battle royal at 27 to winning the World title in a couple of seconds at 28.
Rise: Edge and Orton from Mania 23 to Mania 24 — Going to group these two together because of the similar initial crap and better end run booking for both. Being thrown into the MITB where they really weren’t needed (neither of them won and they were 2 added people to make 8 contestants where the previous two Manias only had 6) Could have done the Edge vs. Orton feud they seemed to be leaning towards but for some reason didn’t. So going from being thrown in another multi man ladder match (you can tell I love these) to open Mania 23 to going to Mania 24 to both being World Champions and Co-Main Eventing Wrestlemania 24.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 7, 2021 13:48:09 GMT -5
Rise: Batista. Was in a 2-on-3 Handicap Match at Wrestlemania XX and then beat HHH to win the World Heavyweight Championship at Wrestlemania 21.
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Post by The Brain on Feb 7, 2021 15:22:02 GMT -5
Rise...   |
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Feb 7, 2021 23:39:00 GMT -5
Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins from WM 30 to 31 count as a rise? Went from a hastily planned squasher with Old Age Outlaws and Corporate Kane (because someone thought "sure, one of the hottest acts in the company needed to break up" before being talked outta that US Title plan) to the main event for the World Heavyweight Championship.
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Post by ClassicFan2 on Feb 8, 2021 0:00:48 GMT -5
sgt slaughter was in the main event of wm7 and in an 8-man throwaway tag match at wm8!
this has to be one of the biggest falls!
srg went from the top heel and big fued with hogan and the whole iraq war thing. he beat warrior for the belt at rumble, was in the main event summerslam as well.
down to mid-low card jobber at mania8!
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Post by MKSavage on Feb 8, 2021 2:09:29 GMT -5
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Post by MKSavage on Feb 8, 2021 2:11:23 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior, lost WM5 and the IC Title to Rude, WM6 won the WWF Title and beat the unbeatable...  |
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Post by hbkjason on Feb 8, 2021 3:18:25 GMT -5
Thanks for all the replies guys, some great suggestions here.
I never even thought about Ricky Steamboat! It would have been awesome for him to face Savage at WrestleMania IV and have Savage win, but be a gracious winner.
Another one that popped into my mind is Chris Jericho. Granted his portrayal in 2002 was not the best, but he went from opening the show at WrestleMania X7 to closing it the following year.
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Post by JokerFC on Feb 8, 2021 7:13:55 GMT -5
Great topic man....nearly everything I could think of has been mentioned here. But Ill mention
SCSA: Beats Rock in a super heated & dramatic encounter for the strap @ WM17. Then wrestles Hall in the middle of WM18 in a forgettable match.
LOD: flatten P&G en route to the taggers at Summerslam in a minute @ WM7...not wrestling @ WM8
But when your talking see saw WM folks? Ya have to mention the Macho Man...
Its rise after rise until from WM2 til 5 then fall @ WM6
Rises from wrestling Steele @ WM2 to a losing effort in one of the most talked about matches in the industry @ WM3....
Rises from the super hot encounter at WM3 to winning the Championship @ WM4...
Rises again in a losing effort @ WM5 in the most talked about feud in wrestling....
drops for the 1st time to the midcard in a feud with Dusty
Rises again @ WM7 in the most over match on the card...
Rises again @ WM8 winning the world title.....
Falls off the radar @ WM9 & is in the booth...
Slight improvement at WM10 as he wrestles Crush
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