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Post by TKO Propagandist on Feb 22, 2021 9:54:24 GMT -5
The thing I like about Miz. Is that pretty much his whole career they have stayed consistent with the fact he cannot win matches without help. His entire run he has had someone else with him in order to get wins. Layla, Morrison, Alex Riley, R-Truth, Mizdow, Maryse, Miztourage, Shane, Morrison again. On his own, he would get squished by most of the roster in no time at all. But with people by his side, he is awesome. And is YOUR WWE Champion.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 22, 2021 10:09:31 GMT -5
I mean the contract is to have a “match” whenever you want, it’s no whenever you want or why wouldn’t someone run the champion over with their car and just pin them. It’s always been that way. But if they are now asking the champ if he’s Ok to go he can just say no and then there’s no match. And it hasn’t always been that way. If the champ isn’t okay to go, the challenger wins by forfeit. But asking the champ if he’s okay isn’t a new thing, they’ve done it for plenty of cash-ins over the years to make the beaten/down babyface look brave and stoic. |
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Post by PJ on Feb 22, 2021 10:45:55 GMT -5
But if they are now asking the champ if he’s Ok to go he can just say no and then there’s no match. And it hasn’t always been that way. If the champ isn’t okay to go, the challenger wins by forfeit. But asking the champ if he’s okay isn’t a new thing, they’ve done it for plenty of cash-ins over the years to make the beaten/down babyface look brave and stoic. They were giving him way too much time to recover. As soon as the Miz said he was cashing in and handed the ref the contract the ref should have called for the bell. It had to be 30 seconds to a minute of the ref asking if he was ok. Which was way to long. It was almost as bad as the end of the last man standing match where the ref didn’t know what to do with the count when Heyman couldn’t unlock the cuffs and Roman couldn’t stand Up. |
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Post by FLUX '97 on Feb 22, 2021 11:07:36 GMT -5
I figured WF would've loved that a midcarder finally got a push to become WWE Champion.
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Post by rkmo: Cheats & Geeks on Feb 22, 2021 12:32:46 GMT -5
It's all starting to get a bit messy now. I thought Drew would win, go on to face Sheamus at Fastlane, and then have a Wrestlemania Match with a Shane McMahon or John Cena. I thought Lashley dropping the United States Championship would be to free him up so that he could potentially face Brock Lesnar. But now we have The Miz as Champion, Lashley now in the picture with McIntyre, and Sheamus still there. I would be shocked if Miz doesn't drop the Title even before Fastlane, was kind of glad to see it happen though, even with the false tease of Drew kicking out at first. I think they just genuinely know that it's still a bit of a stretch to get McIntyre all the way to Wrestlemania, so they're just going to play around for the time being. Worst case is that they never really did have a plan for McIntyre at Wrestlemania even now, and they end up just doing some sort of random Fatal Four Way. I'm not a fan of McIntyre, I find him and his run incredibly bland, but it bothers be about the lack of plan heading to Wrestlemania. The only other alternative, is that we somehow end up getting a Lashley vs Drew McIntyre vs Brock lesnar WWE Championship Triple Threat at Wrestlemania. Same feeling here. Drew McIntyre should theoretically be the top guy in the company with Head Cheese Reigns in "heel mode", but here Drew is left flapping in the wind while the other champ's stuff is written in stone. And I continue to say Edge and McIntyre has the makings of a better story. |
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Post by koreygunz on Feb 22, 2021 13:58:48 GMT -5
They made the SD Chamber Match meaningless. I guess if we get Reigns vs Bryan at Fastlane it might make a little more sense.
Honestly I wish it was drew vs edge and reigns vs Bryan (or rock) at Mania.
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Post by rkmo: Cheats & Geeks on Feb 22, 2021 16:45:19 GMT -5
Miz Girl in the ThunderDome audience or we complain online
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Post by rowdy1971 on Feb 22, 2021 17:09:10 GMT -5
How long before Vince sours on Bianca Belair? She wasn't very good in the match.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 22, 2021 17:10:53 GMT -5
I figured WF would've loved that a midcarder finally got a push to become WWE Champion. It’s a midcarder who doesn’t do flips and never wrestled for RoH, so it doesn’t count. |
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Post by k5 on Feb 22, 2021 17:26:51 GMT -5
I figured WF would've loved that a midcarder finally got a push to become WWE Champion. It’s a midcarder who doesn’t do flips and never wrestled for RoH, so it doesn’t count. nah, it's that he's a poor man's MJF and smells of cabbage seriously though, I think a collective groan at Miz winning is totally appropriate. he's a heel, right? why would everyone be enthused to see him take it? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 17:48:15 GMT -5
It’s a midcarder who doesn’t do flips and never wrestled for RoH, so it doesn’t count. nah, it's that he's a poor man's MJF and smells of cabbage seriously though, I think a collective groan at Miz winning is totally appropriate. he's a heel, right? why would everyone be enthused to see him take it? It's called go away heat, jeez 😂 |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 22, 2021 18:30:48 GMT -5
It’s a midcarder who doesn’t do flips and never wrestled for RoH, so it doesn’t count. nah, it's that he's a poor man's MJF and smells of cabbage To be fair, MJF is probably the best of the third-tier Miz ripoffs that have come along in the last decade. Exactly, marks are getting worked by the prahduck, same as always. |
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Post by k5 on Feb 22, 2021 18:41:07 GMT -5
nah, it's that he's a poor man's MJF and smells of cabbage To be fair, MJF is probably the best of the third-tier Miz ripoffs that have come along in the last decade. Exactly, marks are getting worked by the prahduck, same as always.  hot takes as always, mr next man. |
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Post by CM Tusk on Feb 22, 2021 18:44:20 GMT -5
Honestly, I’d prefer Cesaro and Sheamus to reform The Bar than both their solo runs.
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Post by Dan on Feb 22, 2021 19:49:48 GMT -5
If the champ isn’t okay to go, the challenger wins by forfeit. But asking the champ if he’s okay isn’t a new thing, they’ve done it for plenty of cash-ins over the years to make the beaten/down babyface look brave and stoic. They were giving him way too much time to recover. As soon as the Miz said he was cashing in and handed the ref the contract the ref should have called for the bell. It had to be 30 seconds to a minute of the ref asking if he was ok. Which was way to long. It was almost as bad as the end of the last man standing match where the ref didn’t know what to do with the count when Heyman couldn’t unlock the cuffs and Roman couldn’t stand Up. I actually disagree a little here. I get what you're saying in the sense that they are giving him too much time to realistically physically recover, but I think the reason for it is to actually draw out the suspense of the viewer. A big part of a cash in now has become about if he's actually going to cash it in or not. We see so many times an attempt to cash in, but the ref never gets around to ringing the bell, so I think that 30 second momentary suspense is to get the viewer engaged to see if it's really going to happen or not. That way, when the bell rings, you're then like wow, it's happening. You then get one kick out, and you think he's blown it, and then he gets the win after and there comes the shock factor. That all forms a much more compelling story, than just a surprise out of no where attack and instant cash in. |
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