CymruX2
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Post by CymruX2 on Mar 14, 2023 22:33:33 GMT -5
I wonder what the "physical issue" is, I've taken more bumps since his return than he has...
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Post by CM Tusk on Mar 15, 2023 1:47:38 GMT -5
I wonder what the "physical issue" is, I've taken more bumps since his return than he has... He’s worked a ton of house shows. Not only that, but for some reason most of them have been the ridiculous black light matches. So not hard to see how you could get hurt when it’s literally hard to see.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Mar 15, 2023 13:37:25 GMT -5
Bray is so overrated. There’s only so many times fans can blame others for Brays shortcomings.
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ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Mar 15, 2023 13:47:55 GMT -5
I wonder what the "physical issue" is, I've taken more bumps since his return than he has... He’s worked a ton of house shows. Not only that, but for some reason most of them have been the ridiculous black light matches. So not hard to see how you could get hurt when it’s literally hard to see. I don't know if 8 house shows in 3 months is a lot but yeah, half of them were a "lights out" match. He only wrestled once all of January and that was Royal Rumble. Before that, he did a brief loop from 12/26-12/29 last year and then 4 more house show matches in February.
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hbkowns
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Post by hbkowns on Mar 16, 2023 14:54:38 GMT -5
He has a certain amount of creative liberties to his current character, but to what extent, not sure. Either way, I don’t think he is capable of breaking into that 3rd gear. He still talks in circles and metaphors and hasn’t been able to break that cycle for a decade. Very lackluster in the ring. I don’t know how you can see that character for that long and put all the blame on the company, I’m sure there’s a decent amount of blame on both sides. But there’s talent that has been given less opportunities and made more out of them than Bray Wyatt. I understand what your saying but we need to be honest, if Cult leader Wyatt didn't lose basically every match that character would still be around and possibly a top play. Wyatt created The Fiend and Funhouse stuff and you cannot deny how successful it was with the fans, they ate everything up Wyatt did during that period. Then Vince decides to have him lose two important matches that completely ruined that character. The current storyline is a mystery, maybe Wyatt is on a part time contract or perhaps he is injured or unwell, we don't know but it's sad to see how bad his return has been. It's easy to say that the wrestler holds responsibility for their failure and to be honest they do if they don't try, but in Wyatt's case I feel that for the past decade he has gave his all and got nothing in return. Take Gunther for example, an excellent talent and tremendous worker but Vince was planning to turn him into a jobber before HHH took over. Now had that happened his hard work would come to nothing. He could bust his ass off every week and be made to look like a joke. You could be the best and most entertaining wrestler in the world but bad creative gives you a very low ceiling. Cult leader Wyatt came in hot, but honestly, how do you know it would have had legs to last to this day? I don’t think that same character had legs beyond a 2-3 year run. He would have had to evolve. Instead, he devolved into weird gimmicks as the years went on. I’m not saying he didn’t give it his all or didn’t meet some bad creative. He did have success. I’m just saying, regardless of bad creative, Vince’s vision, or Hunter’s vision, I don’t think he has the ability to be more than what he’s already shown. He’s not a very good wrestler. He has great delivery with his promos, but the content is never clear. When you talk in circles and metaphors for a decade, you’ve lost me. The only way he can win me over is to have an American Badass Taker type run. I’m not saying be exactly that, but he needs to step away from the gimmicks and become a more realistic version of that Bray Wyatt character. I’m not sure what that would look like, but it’s worth trying because this stuff he’s doing now is DOA.
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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Mar 16, 2023 15:32:47 GMT -5
I feel this reeks of Vince being more involved in creative than we've been led to believe officially shut up nerd
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Mar 16, 2023 21:30:45 GMT -5
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CymruX2
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Post by CymruX2 on Mar 16, 2023 22:59:56 GMT -5
I wonder what the "physical issue" is, I've taken more bumps since his return than he has... He’s worked a ton of house shows. Not only that, but for some reason most of them have been the ridiculous black light matches. So not hard to see how you could get hurt when it’s literally hard to see. Amen to that brother, my "bumps" came in the form of falling down the stairs because I didn't bother putting the light on. TF my bathroom doing downstairs anyway!
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 17, 2023 7:52:25 GMT -5
[ Take Gunther for example, an excellent talent and tremendous worker but Vince was planning to turn him into a jobber before HHH took over. Now had that happened his hard work would come to nothing. He could bust his ass off every week and be made to look like a joke. 😂😂😂 If the best you’ve got is imaginary examples of things that didn’t even happen, you’re probably not making a great point. Gunther got called up to the main roster, got a WORLD ENDING BOO HOO HOO NAME CHANGE, has performed at a world-class level ever since, was made a dominant intercontinental champion by THE BOOGEYMAN INDIE-BURIER VINCE, continues to hold the title under the new regime, and is doing great. But if his aunt was his uncle and Vince wore a disguise to sneak backstage and secretly bury him from gorilla position, blah blah blah. Didn’t happen. Wrestlers are as responsible for their failures as they are for their successes.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 17, 2023 18:17:50 GMT -5
[ Take Gunther for example, an excellent talent and tremendous worker but Vince was planning to turn him into a jobber before HHH took over. Now had that happened his hard work would come to nothing. He could bust his ass off every week and be made to look like a joke. 😂😂😂 If the best you’ve got is imaginary examples of things that didn’t even happen, you’re probably not making a great point. Gunther got called up to the main roster, got a WORLD ENDING BOO HOO HOO NAME CHANGE, has performed at a world-class level ever since, was made a dominant intercontinental champion by THE BOOGEYMAN INDIE-BURIER VINCE, continues to hold the title under the new regime, and is doing great. But if his aunt was his uncle and Vince wore a disguise to sneak backstage and secretly bury him from gorilla position, blah blah blah. Didn’t happen. Wrestlers are as responsible for their failures as they are for their successes. www.thesportster.com/vince-mcmahon-bury-gunther-back-to-nxt/
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Mar 18, 2023 3:27:50 GMT -5
I wonder what the "physical issue" is, I've taken more bumps since his return than he has... He’s worked a ton of house shows. Not only that, but for some reason most of them have been the ridiculous black light matches. So not hard to see how you could get hurt when it’s literally hard to see. When I saw these matches, I immediately thought about the video "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" by Wham! Yeah, I'm old. Leave me alone.
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Post by CM Tusk on Mar 18, 2023 4:57:00 GMT -5
He’s worked a ton of house shows. Not only that, but for some reason most of them have been the ridiculous black light matches. So not hard to see how you could get hurt when it’s literally hard to see. When I saw these matches, I immediately thought about the video "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" by Wham! Yeah, I'm old. Leave me alone. BANGER
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Mar 18, 2023 5:47:14 GMT -5
Don’t leave me hangin’ on like a yo-yo
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Figgycent
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Post by Figgycent on Mar 18, 2023 6:59:34 GMT -5
Wyatt can leave again like after WM37
Lashley needs a match at Mania.
Too bad he was put into a program with this big drama Queen. I mean his personal issues and his bs It’s kind of getting old no?
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 18, 2023 23:14:25 GMT -5
I dont see how they screwed it up. Most people loved the "Cult Leader" Bray and hated "Evil Clown" Fiend....So you simply evolve the Cult Leader Bray. Give him a new group...Bo, Bliss whomever and you make it less Waylon Mercy and more an extension of his personality. Instead we got Emo Bray who came out to horrible music & was crying, then he's getting beat up by Uncle Howdy, then Howdy is helping him..its just goofy at this point.
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Post by Triple S on Mar 19, 2023 10:31:22 GMT -5
The Sportster as a source of news. Lol
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Post by casanova on Mar 19, 2023 12:28:44 GMT -5
So, will we get the Howdy5 instead of the Wyatt6 now, or is Bo out too?
The Wyatt angle really didn’t raise any tension. It’s boring at this point. Maybe it’s best for the character to give it another break, write the plot for the next months down and have it restarted after Mania. Neither Lashley nor Lesnar would have been a proper opponent for Wyatt at this stage. These guys are legitimate fighters and don’t fit into gimmick matches. They should have done Wyatt vs Fiend or Wyatt vs Howdy for Mania…
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Mar 20, 2023 19:52:21 GMT -5
his Fiend character is what started his downfall imo
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Mar 20, 2023 20:07:21 GMT -5
I feel this reeks of Vince being more involved in creative than we've been led to believe officially WWE marks fully believing Vince is back simply because of bad booking acting like only Vince has had bad booking
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Post by hitmancmedge on Mar 21, 2023 11:38:04 GMT -5
Supposedly the plan from when he came back was to be conflicted about captain howdy, lead to him getting squashed by Brock at mania. Which was suppose to lead to a new evil character after mania. Brock didn’t want to do it, so Lashley was still gonna squash him.
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