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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jun 7, 2023 19:16:44 GMT -5
Enzo & Cass. Over as hell and big merch sellers. They didn't have to be good wrestlers, their popularity was enough for them to succeed. Jesse & Festus. Another team who was over with the crowd and should've been multiple tag champs. London & Kendrick. Possibly one of the best teams of the 00's, but I felt at times they were hugely underrated. First of they should've been given a team name and should be remembered today as one of the companies legendary tag teams. Wade Barrett. As Bad News Barrett he could've been a top player. Billy Gunn. Feeding him to The Rock and DX's reunion spoiled his push. He never recovered from that. Perry Saturn. I could certainly have pictured him as a solid mid/upper carder. Saturn & Malenko could have been decent IC Champs
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Post by The American Daydream on Jun 7, 2023 20:04:25 GMT -5
Enzo & Cass. Over as hell and big merch sellers. They didn't have to be good wrestlers, their popularity was enough for them to succeed. Jesse & Festus. Another team who was over with the crowd and should've been multiple tag champs. London & Kendrick. Possibly one of the best teams of the 00's, but I felt at times they were hugely underrated. First of they should've been given a team name and should be remembered today as one of the companies legendary tag teams. Wade Barrett. As Bad News Barrett he could've been a top player. Billy Gunn. Feeding him to The Rock and DX's reunion spoiled his push. He never recovered from that. Perry Saturn. I could certainly have pictured him as a solid mid/upper carder. Yes, yes and yes on all three counts. It's to the point that any WWE 2K game I get, I automatically grab London & Kendrick CAW's to download and throw into Universe/MYGM/Exhibition because why they never got the push they deserved is beyond me. Had to be the lack of tag team storyline direction. They should have been having bangers weekly on SD with their titles instead of what they were doing. Unique tag entrance? Check. Unique and cool matching team gear? Check. Great in ring wrestling ability as high flyers? Check. Charisma? Check. Promo? Meh but dammit they had everything else. With time and practice that could have been smoothed over as well since we can see from the later years of The Brian Kendrick that he can talk. Then the way London rips into people on shoot interviews, he could have talked too if been allowed to be himself. So yeah, 100% vehemently agree on London and Kendrick. Saturn as well if his anger/vices didn't get to him could have been a great upper mid-carder instead of carrying a mop. He may not have been a main eventer in the AE itself but damn near everyone from that era is a legend now today and were getting bigger pops as mid-carders with goofy-ish gimmicks (too cool, al snow, godfather, new age outlaws) than most main event level players are getting today so I think if he managed to stick it out he would have found tremendous success as the ruthless aggression era was dawning with the Smackdown Six. Coulda had the Smackdown Seven instead.
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Post by hbkjason on Jun 7, 2023 23:46:27 GMT -5
Zack Ryder! Has anyone else gotten themselves over like he did? It was like WWE went out of their way to put a stop to it, was really weird.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jun 8, 2023 7:27:05 GMT -5
Zack Ryder! Has anyone else gotten themselves over like he did? It was like WWE went out of their way to put a stop to it, was really weird. He was insanely over man
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Post by The American Daydream on Jun 8, 2023 7:50:37 GMT -5
Zack Ryder! Has anyone else gotten themselves over like he did? It was like WWE went out of their way to put a stop to it, was really weird. I don't think Vince was very happy to see someone he'd been pushing as a jobber/lower mid carder getting bigger reactions than some of his main eventers.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Jun 8, 2023 14:02:39 GMT -5
Cody after his face turn, Sandow feud, Rhodes fam Vs Shield feud I thought was going places And we ruined it with Stardust
Wade Barret in 2011-2012 was looking to be a steady upper card heel. And it seemed WWE kept rebooting that when other stuff got in the way. Bad news Barret, and King Barret for example. And they were all hasty attempts to get Barret back on track.
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Post by wolfpac on Jun 8, 2023 14:57:28 GMT -5
Great picks so far
Gotta toss a few more
Ken Kennedy, Matt Hardy (especially 2009 and broken Matt), Luna, and Test
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jun 8, 2023 14:58:42 GMT -5
Great picks so far Gotta toss a few more Ken Kennedy, Matt Hardy (especially 2009 and broken Matt), Luna, and Test Test could have been World Champ many times
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2023 16:02:19 GMT -5
Great picks so far Gotta toss a few more Ken Kennedy, Matt Hardy (especially 2009 and broken Matt), Luna, and Test Luna is a heartbreaker. She could have been a huge star. I miss that woman.
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Post by The American Daydream on Jun 8, 2023 19:24:54 GMT -5
Great picks so far Gotta toss a few more Ken Kennedy, Matt Hardy (especially 2009 and broken Matt), Luna, and Test Mr Kennedy beat too many former world champions to not go on and win the big one himself. Thought that's where his whole story was going til he lost his MITB briefcase
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Post by finnbalor1 on Jun 9, 2023 2:51:58 GMT -5
I would go with Dream,Mr.Kennedy and Enzo
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jun 15, 2023 17:48:59 GMT -5
Bobby Lashley could have been huge around 07 but he got hurt & left due to racism etc... he could have been the man from 07-2016.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jun 15, 2023 18:33:46 GMT -5
I would say Kenny Dykstra but Cena took his girl and got him canned.
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Post by The American Daydream on Jun 16, 2023 15:49:18 GMT -5
Bobby Lashley could have been huge around 07 but he got hurt & left due to racism etc... he could have been the man from 07-2016. Bobby Lashley to me has never seemed as dominant since his return as he did during his first run. Injuries suck man. He used to be an absolute monster and after Batista left the first time I figured Lashley was a shoe in to step in for him as he was a massive powerhouse that was getting over quite well with the fans. Not a great talker but still Batista wasn't either until towards the end of his run when he was feuding with Cena. That's what Lashley needed, a really solid feud with Cena to bring that out of him. Still don't think he'd be a good talker but he could have a manager or just be a one man wrecking crew like Goldberg was.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jun 17, 2023 6:10:20 GMT -5
Keith Lee
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jun 17, 2023 21:43:04 GMT -5
Mr Kennedy - was a victim of timing and injuries several times, but he was clearly someone they saw money with. But he had the demons, and a reputation of being reckless in the ring, and that eventually got him fired. Could’ve been a multiple time world champion, but ruined his standing to the point that he’s never even been brought back for a Rumble cameo.
Rob Van Dam - beat John Cena, was WWE and ECW Champion, and blew it by getting arrested. Disqualified himself as a potential face of the company.
Keith Lee - featured brilliantly at Survivor Series 2019, beat Randy Orton in his Raw debut, was in the title mix. Went down with Covid, and when he came back, was disgruntled with his nickname and didn’t want to lose weight and get healthy. Apparently he’s now doing a lower card tag team with GOLDUST in TNA. If what I’m hearing is true… poor Keith.
Velveteen Dream - had the world at his fingertips. All of the tools to be a major star for the next decade or two. In an era where NXT was mostly featuring indie manlets with no personality, Dream’s charisma made him stand out head and shoulders above everyone. And he threw it all away.
William Regal - multiple times throughout his career he sabotaged himself with substances, most notably in 2008. He would’ve at the very least main evented PPVs with Triple H.
Kurt Angle - was an all time great within his first couple of years of debuting. His legend status was well cemented by the time he got fired in 2006, but his demons condemned him to spend the next years in obscurity. By the time he came back to the big leagues, he was a physical wreck.
Marty Jannetty - great wrestler, shady mess of a human being. Could’ve been a staple of the early to mid 90s midcard, but always made terrible choices and got himself fired. Could never be figured into anything substantial.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jun 18, 2023 7:48:45 GMT -5
Bobby Lashley could have been huge around 07 but he got hurt & left due to racism etc... he could have been the man from 07-2016. Bobby Lashley to me has never seemed as dominant since his return as he did during his first run. Injuries suck man. He used to be an absolute monster and after Batista left the first time I figured Lashley was a shoe in to step in for him as he was a massive powerhouse that was getting over quite well with the fans. Not a great talker but still Batista wasn't either until towards the end of his run when he was feuding with Cena. That's what Lashley needed, a really solid feud with Cena to bring that out of him. Still don't think he'd be a good talker but he could have a manager or just be a one man wrecking crew like Goldberg was. Lashley could have been Brock/Batista/Goldberg but real life issues messed it up… he was a beast in 07 ffs.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 18, 2023 18:05:22 GMT -5
Carlito, literally Triple H, Big Show, Flair, Foley, HBK all had the guy pegged to be a main event star for years to come, but he just didn’t want to work for it. Enjoyed partying a little too hard, and was seen as not up for the opportunities given to him.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jun 19, 2023 18:31:34 GMT -5
DDP could have been a big star in 01/02… ffs He had that great storyline where he wanted to Grape The Undertakers wife! That’s his own fault for not getting over! He was given an Oscar worthy storyline to work with and he failed
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jun 19, 2023 18:33:28 GMT -5
Carlito, literally Triple H, Big Show, Flair, Foley, HBK all had the guy pegged to be a main event star for years to come, but he just didn’t want to work for it. Enjoyed partying a little too hard, and was seen as not up for the opportunities given to him. After Orton stomped him out in 2007, I think he officially just gave up
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