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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Dec 23, 2023 19:25:34 GMT -5
So, on June 28th, 1999, we got the highest rated match/segment in RAW history... wow. The number was over 10 million and it was very close to hitting 11 million.
I gotta say that is some crazy numbers and it shows you how big the business was back then... it was scary stuff.
Austin was just so damn popular back then as well, good times.
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 23, 2023 21:25:29 GMT -5
This is why I’ll always find it funny when fans today try to argue that Cena and Roman are as popular as Hogan, Austin, and Rock. They couldn’t hold a candle compared to just how popular those three were during their primes.
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Post by MKSavage on Dec 23, 2023 23:11:46 GMT -5
Was just talking about this (Raw Ratings) in the Raw thread. Becky and Nia had the highest rated segment of the night, drawing 1.7 million viewers, and people think it's a good thing. I looked at the Raw ratings over the last three years, very few shows averaged 2.0+ in the ratings for the entire show. Raw during the late 90s/early 00s averaged 5.0+ in the ratings. Even having shows that surpassed 7.0+. And that's also with Nitro getting 3.0+ ratings, too. Even Punk returning a few weeks ago couldn't get them a 2.0 in the ratings. Even the bad years of the New Generation would consistently score a 2.0+ in the ratings.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Dec 23, 2023 23:37:45 GMT -5
Was just talking about this (Raw Ratings) in the Raw thread. Becky and Nia had the highest rated segment of the night, drawing 1.7 million viewers, and people think it's a good thing. I looked at the Raw ratings over the last three years, very few shows averaged 2.0+ in the ratings for the entire show. Raw during the late 90s/early 00s averages 5.0+ in the ratings. Even having shows that surpassed 7.0+. And that's also with Nitro getting 3.0+ ratings, too. Even Punk returning a few weeks ago couldn't get them a 2.0 in the ratings. Even the bad years of the New Generation would consistently score a 2.0+ in the ratings. Back then was just crazy stuff... you had about 15 million people watching RAW/Nitro every Monday night... a legit boom period. Imagine RAW or SmackDown on FOX network back then? The numbers would be even higher. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Dec 23, 2023 23:39:02 GMT -5
This is why I’ll always find it funny when fans today try to argue that Cena and Roman are as popular as Hogan, Austin, and Rock. They couldn’t hold a candle compared to just how popular those three were during their primes. Hogan, Austin, Rock will always be the goats but I also gotta give credit to Cena & Reigns. They are all megastars in their own lane tbh. |
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Dec 26, 2023 10:39:24 GMT -5
This is why I’ll always find it funny when fans today try to argue that Cena and Roman are as popular as Hogan, Austin, and Rock. They couldn’t hold a candle compared to just how popular those three were during their primes. Lol seriously. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Dec 26, 2023 17:41:14 GMT -5
This is why I’ll always find it funny when fans today try to argue that Cena and Roman are as popular as Austin, and Rock. They couldn’t hold a candle compared to just how popular those three were during their primes. What they all have in common is that they had horrific intial runs as singles wrestlers. Ringmaster, Maivia, Prototype & Big Dog. All of which were on the same level of awful |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Dec 27, 2023 1:54:21 GMT -5
RAWs numbers were just crazy back then & and Nitros' numbers were still good enough as well, despite them getting destroyed in the war.
Nitros numbers in 96/97/98 was also crazy stuff.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Dec 27, 2023 1:57:06 GMT -5
I'd also say that Nitro in 99 actually did some shocking big numbers. I gotta give em credit for that as RAW was just levels above during that era there.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Dec 28, 2023 10:05:08 GMT -5
It's crazy to look back at the PWI magazines from the Monday Night Era and look at the ratings that Raw and Nitro got.
The lowest Raw rating when it was getting beaten by Nitro, is still double the numbers that Raw gets now for a rating, and the WWE considered that to be troubling times.
The Austin/Rock/DX era of 1998 - 2000 will never be touched again. That era was just so much fun for so many reasons. I just don't get that feeling now when I watch it.
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Post by MKSavage on Dec 28, 2023 19:02:38 GMT -5
It's crazy to look back at the PWI magazines from the Monday Night Era and look at the ratings that Raw and Nitro got. The lowest Raw rating when it was getting beaten by Nitro, is still double the numbers that Raw gets now for a rating, and the WWE considered that to be troubling times. The Austin/Rock/DX era of 1998 - 2000 will never be touched again. That era was just so much fun for so many reasons. I just don't get that feeling now when I watch it. Even the early days of Raw got higher numbers than Raw gets these days, and those are considered the dark days of the WWF. Yet today, they celebrate those numbers as a boom for wrestling today... Strange. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Dec 29, 2023 17:33:14 GMT -5
It's crazy to look back at the PWI magazines from the Monday Night Era and look at the ratings that Raw and Nitro got. The lowest Raw rating when it was getting beaten by Nitro, is still double the numbers that Raw gets now for a rating, and the WWE considered that to be troubling times. The Austin/Rock/DX era of 1998 - 2000 will never be touched again. That era was just so much fun for so many reasons. I just don't get that feeling now when I watch it. Even the early days of Raw got higher numbers than Raw gets these days, and those are considered the dark days of the WWF. Yet today, they celebrate those numbers as a boom for wrestling today... Strange. I remember 95/96 getting trashed for years & years due to their ratings lol... times have changed. WWE these days make money other ways & I believe they'll always break records & maximise profits somehow. I think TV/cable has really changed due to online & streaming services tbh, that could be a big factor. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Dec 29, 2023 17:34:47 GMT -5
It's crazy to look back at the PWI magazines from the Monday Night Era and look at the ratings that Raw and Nitro got. The lowest Raw rating when it was getting beaten by Nitro, is still double the numbers that Raw gets now for a rating, and the WWE considered that to be troubling times. The Austin/Rock/DX era of 1998 - 2000 will never be touched again. That era was just so much fun for so many reasons. I just don't get that feeling now when I watch it. The New Gen was actually underrated in many ways tbh... WCW was just killing it. The Austin/Rock/DX era will always be untouchable. |
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Post by TheXtremisT on Jan 8, 2024 18:40:23 GMT -5
Got to remember there aren't many shows (let alone live shows) that pull in the numbers Raw does currently. That's what the network and advertisers look at.
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Post by jason88cubs on Jan 8, 2024 19:05:30 GMT -5
found this on a different forum pretty interesting
1998
9/14- 4.0 to 12.7 for 49ers/Redskins
9/21- 4.0 to 13.1 for Cowboys/Giants
9/28- 4.5 to 11.1 for Buccaneers/Lions
10/5- 4.5 to 16.8 for Vikings/Packers (Battle of 4-0 teams)
10/12- 4.8 to 11.7 for Dolphins/Jaguars (3-1 vs. 4-0)
10/19- 5.0 to 14.6 for Jets/Patriots
10/26- 4.5 to 14.5 for Steelers/Chiefs (Battle of 4-2 teams)
11/2- 4.8 to 13.2 for Cowboys/Eagles (34-0 rout)
11/9- 5.0 to 15.6 for Packers/Steelers
11/16- 5.5 to 13.9 for Broncos/Chiefs
11/23- 4.9 to 15.1 for Dolphins/Patriots
11/30- 5.0 to 14 for Giants/49ers (31-7 rout)
12/7- 5.2 to 15.4 for Packers/Buccaneers
12/14- 5.2 to 11.9 for Lions/49ers (35-13)
12/21- 4.7 to 16.3 for Broncos/Dolphins
12/28- 4.9 to 11.5 for Steelers/Jaguars
1999
9/13- 6.0 to 16.1 for Dolphins/Broncos
9/20- 6.1 to 15.2 for Falcons/Cowboys
9/27- 6.8 (Rock, This Is Your Life) to 13.3 for 49ers/Cardinals
10/4- 5.9 to 14 for Bills/Dolphins
10/11- 6.5 to 10.4 for Jagaurs/Jets
10/18- 5.4 to 12.1 for Cowboys/Giants
10/25- 5.5 to 12.5 for Falcons/Steelers
11/1- 5.9 to 14.9 for Seahawks/Packers (Battle of 4-2 teams, Holmgren returns to Lambeau)
11/8- 5.4 to 16.2 for Cowboys/Vikings
11/15- 6.3 to 13.4 for Jets/Patriots
11/22- 5.5 to 13 for Raiders/Broncos
11/29- 6.5 (RAW is LOVE) vs. 13.1 for Packers/49ers (Battle of underachieving NFC 90s powers in decline)
12/6- 6.0 to 14.3 for Vikings/Buccaneers
12/13- 6.1 to 13.3 for Broncos/Jaguars (McMahon-Helmsley era begins
12/20- 5.8 to 15.1 for Packers/Vikings
12/27- 5.8 to 14.4 for Jets/Dolphins (Dan Marino's final home game)
1/3/2000- 6.5 to 10 for 49ers/Falcons (Battle of 4-11 underachieving teams who fell off after big 1998 seasons)
2000
9/4- 4.2 to 15.3 for Broncos/Rams (Wild 41-36 shootout)
9/11- 5.8 to 12.2 for Patriots/Jets
9/18- 5.8 to 13.5 for Cowboys/Redskins
9/25- 5.4 to 10.3 for Jaguars/Colts
10/2- 5.4 to 11.4 for Seahawks/Chiefs
10/9- 5.4 to 14.9 for Buccaneers/Vikings
10/16- 4.8 to 10.6 for Jaguars/Titans (AFC Championship rematch)
10/23- 5.5 to 12.1 for Dolphins/Jets (Monday Night Miracle)
10/30- 5.0 to 13.8 for Titans/Redskins (6-1 vs. 6-2)
11/6- 5.1 to 14.6 for Vikings/Packers (HE DID WHAT?!)
11/13- 5.0 to 12.4 for Raiders/Broncos (Last MNF game at old Mile High Stadium)
11/20- 5.0 to 13.9 for Redskins/Rams (6-4 vs. 8-2)
11/27- 5.0 to 12.5 for Packers/Panthers
12/4- 5.0 to 9.9 for Chiefs/Patriots
12/11- 5.8 to 11.3 for Bills/Colts (Wild Card elimination game)
12/18- 4.8 to 15.2 for Rams/Buccaneers
12/25- 3.8 to 11 for Cowboys/Titans
2001
9/10- 4.6 to 14.5 for Giants/Broncos
9/24- 4.5 to 11.7 for Redskins/Packers
10/1- 4.4 to 11.2 for 49ers/Jets
10/8- 4.5 to 11.1 for Rams/Lions (35-0)
10/15- 4.1 to 9.9 for Redskins/Cowboys (Battle of 0-4 teams)
10/22- 3.9 to 9.9 for Eagles/Giants
10/29- 4.1 to 11.6 for Titans/Steelers
11/5- 4.0 to 11.9 for Broncos/Raiders
11/12- 4.1 to 10.6 for Ravens/Titans
11/19- 4.8 (Ric Flair is the consortium) to 11.8 for Vikings/Giants
11/26- 4.4 to 12.2 for Buccaneers/Rams
12/3- Can't find RAW rating (Packers/Jaguars got an 11.0 rating)
12/10- 4.7 to 10.4 for Colts/Dolphins (41-6)
12/17- 4.0 to 12.9 for Rams/Saints
1/7/2002- 4.9 (Triple H's MSG return) to 12.3 for Vikings/Ravens
2002 (Where the respectable gaps starts to widen)
9/9- 3.4 to 12.8 for Steelers/Patriots (SB banner raised in first game at Gilette Stadium)
9/16- 3.4 to 11.8 for Eagles/Redskins
9/23- 3.6 to 12.5 for Rams/Buccaneers
9/30- 3.6 to 11.5 for Broncos/Ravens (Chris McAlister 107 yard missed field goal TD return)
10/7- 3.8 (RAW Roulette) to 10.6 for Packers/Bears
10/14- 3.8 to 9.6 for 49ers/Seahawks (T.O. Sharpie)
10/21- 3.7 to 10.6 for Colts/Steelers
10/28- 3.4 to 10.9 for Giants/Eagles
11/4- 3.5 to 12.8 for Packers/Dolphins (5-2 vs. 6-1)
11/11- 3.1 to 12.4 for Raiders/Broncos (500th MNF)
11/18- 3.7 to 11.7 for Bears/Rams (2001 studs turned 2002 duds)
11/25- 3.4 to 11.4 for Eagles/49ers
12/2- 3.3 to 12.2 for Jets/Raiders
12/9- 3.3 to 10.7 for Bears/Dolphins (Ricky Williams goes for 216 yards on 31 carries)
12/16- 3.5 to 11.2 for Patriots/Titans
12/23- 3.3 to 11.6 for Steelers/Buccaneers
2003
9/8- 3.6 to 12 for Buccaneers/Eagles
9/15- 3.7 to 12.9 for Cowboys/Giants
9/22- 3.6 to 11.9 for Raiders/Broncos
9/29- 3.4 to 12.1 for Packers/Bears (First game at renovated Soldier Field)
10/6- 3.4 to 10.2 for Colts/Buccaneeers (4th quarter comeback)
10/13- 3.6 to 8.4 for Falcons/Rams
10/20- 3.7 to 11.9 for Chiefs/Raiders
10/27- 3.4 to 10.7 for Dolphins/Chargers (Moved to Arizona due to San Diego fires)
11/3- 3.4 to 11.6 for Patriots/Broncos
11/10- 3.7 to 12.5 for Eagles/Packers
11/17- Can't find RAW rating (Steelers/49ers got an 11.1 rating)
11/24- 3.6 (RAW Roulette) to 10.9 for Giants/Buccaneeers
12/1- 3.7 to 11.0 for Titans/Jets
12/8- 3.8 to 10.9 for Rams/Browns
12/15- 3.5 to 12.6 for Eagles/Dolphins (10-3 vs. 8-5)
12/22- 3.0 to 11.1 for Packers/Raiders (Brett Favre monster game days after his dad died)
2004
9/13- 3.6 RAW (Can't find rating for Packers/Panthers)
9/20- 3.7 to 12.8 for Vikings/Eagles (Moss vs. T.O.)
9/27- 3.5 to 13.0 for Cowboys/Redskins (Parcells vs. Gibbs)
10/4- 3.4 to 11.2 for Chiefs/Ravens
10/11- 3.4 to 10.1 for Titans/Packers
10/18- 3.0 to 7.7 for Buccaneers/Rams (Lowest rated ABC MNF ever, both got killed in ratings by playoff baseball)
10/25- 3.7 to 11.0 for Broncos/Bengals
11/1- 3.6 to 9.7 for Dolphins/Jets
11/8- 3.6 to 11.6 for Vikings/Colts (Culpepper vs. Peyton Manning)
11/15- 3.9 to 11.6 for Eagles/Cowboys (T.O. and Nicolette Sheridan ring a bell?)
11/22- 3.9 to 10.6 for Patriots/Chiefs
11/29- 3.9 to 11.5 for Rams/Packers (Favre's 200th consecutive start)
12/6- 3.9 (Trish/Lita main event) to 10.9 for Cowboys/Seahawks (Seattle blows 11-point lead at the 2-minute warning)
12/13- 3.8 to 13.8 for Chiefs/Titans (Wildly entertaining 49-38 game game between 4-8 teams)
12/20- 2.7 to 11.0 for Patriots/Dolphins (2-11 Miami shocks 12-1 New England)
12/27- 3.5 to 10.5 for Eagles/Rams
2005
9/12- 3.3 to 13.0 for Eagles/Falcons (NFC Championship rematch)
9/19- 3.6 to 10.8 for Redskins/Cowboys (Washington scores 2 late miracle long bomb touchdowns)
9/26- 3.2 (Last show on SPIKE TV) to 8.8 for Chiefs/Broncos
10/3- 4.4 (WWE Homecoming on USA) to 10.3 for Packers/Panthers
10/10- 4.0 to 10.2 for Steelers/Chargers
10/17- 3.7 to 9.7 for Rams/Colts (Indy goes on 45-3 run after falling behind 17-0)
10/24- 3.9 to 9.7 for Jets/Falcons
10/31- 3.4 to 11.0 for Ravens/Steelers
11/7- 3.6 to 14.3 for Colts/Patriots (Peyton finally beats Brady and finally wins at Foxboro)
11/14- 4.5 (Eddie Guerrero tribute) to 12.4 for Cowboys/Eagles (Dallas scores 2 touchdowns in final 3 minutes- McNabb sports hernia on pick 6 ends his season)
11/21- 3.6 to 10.8 for Vikings/Packers
11/28- 3.9 to 14.8 for Steelers/Colts
12/5- 4.1 (Trial of Eric Bischoff) to 9.9 for Seahawks/Eagles (Monday Night Massacre- 42-0)
12/12- 4.1 to 10.0 for Saints/Falcons
12/19- 3.7 (Tribute to the Troops) to 8.2 for Packers/Ravens (48-3)
12/26- 3.7 to 9.2 for Patriots/Jets (Final ABC MNF game, last MNF on national TV)
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