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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2007 11:32:31 GMT -5
i guess he'll be the 3rd on the list of being the champ for over a year so far its bob backlund and randy savage
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Post by Chicago on Sept 3, 2007 11:35:15 GMT -5
What about Bruno Sammartino?
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Post by angel78 on Sept 3, 2007 11:40:33 GMT -5
I realize all the suspensions and crap. But they could have given anyone else the title. Cena does not have much talent. He does not deserve this title for this long. Either they are trying to break record of some of the guys that are gone or they have writers that don't know what they are doing. After Lesnar left, he held the record for youngest champion. Then they had Orton break it because he was gone and left on bad terms. I am sick of seeing him win at every PPV. I would like to see someone new with the title. They pulled this with Batista too. Annoying. Give someone else a chance. Ya know, someone who doesn't do roids!
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Post by dmallett4 on Sept 3, 2007 11:50:02 GMT -5
i guess he'll be the 3rd on the list of being the champ for over a year so far its bob backlund and randy savage you obviously dont have a clue. sammartino - 2803 days backlund - 2135 days hogan - 1474 days sammartion - 1237 days morales - 1027 days savage - 371 days
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Post by ecwwill on Sept 3, 2007 11:50:50 GMT -5
, Roids help Cena win, yet he still is champ, yeah, roids help cena win... all his competition do them and get suspended and he keeps his title cena ain't on roids. and judging by how much work he does, and how hasn't been suspended, he deserves the year run more than anyone. Come on man. Everyone in the wwe is on some sort of roids.
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Post by dmallett4 on Sept 3, 2007 11:51:07 GMT -5
nice. he's probably the only one deserving of it since savage. by that, i mean he has been far and above the best wrestler in the wwe for a year. OK, you must be on glue. There are roughly 160 wrestlers on the roster, so I estimate that there are about 150 of them that are better than John Cena. thats the worst assumption i have ever heard.
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Post by dmallett4 on Sept 3, 2007 11:51:46 GMT -5
I realize all the suspensions and crap. But they could have given anyone else the title. Cena does not have much talent. He does not deserve this title for this long. Either they are trying to break record of some of the guys that are gone or they have writers that don't know what they are doing. After Lesnar left, he held the record for youngest champion. Then they had Orton break it because he was gone and left on bad terms. I am sick of seeing him win at every PPV. I would like to see someone new with the title. They pulled this with Batista too. Annoying. Give someone else a chance. Ya know, someone who doesn't do roids! paul london?
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Post by dangerpeanut on Sept 3, 2007 11:58:32 GMT -5
OK, you must be on glue. There are roughly 160 wrestlers on the roster, so I estimate that there are about 150 of them that are better than John Cena. thats the worst assumption i have ever heard. No, the worst assumption is that John Cena is the best wrestler in the WWE
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Post by angel78 on Sept 3, 2007 11:59:03 GMT -5
^^ There you go! Why not give him a push in singles competition. Well, I guess they need him to be with Kendrik until they have more decent tag teams. What is WWE going to do? All this wasted talent.
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Post by dmallett4 on Sept 3, 2007 12:03:08 GMT -5
thats the worst assumption i have ever heard. No, the worst assumption is that John Cena is the best wrestler in the WWE definitely not. theres no way cena is the 150th worst wrestler in wwe at this minute. Id rate him, somewhere about 15th. So that doesnt make him the best wrestling in WWE. Seriously, i dont know who could have the strap other than Cena at the minute. Maybe HHH now, but considering hes been out for 6 months, his reign would still be there. Kennedy, Carlito, arent ready. King Booker, meh now a days. Umaga, his title matches were really good but he is not wwe champ material. Orton gets in trouble every other month. Thats about it from the raw main eventers, so Cena is the best person for the belt.
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Post by jmars on Sept 3, 2007 12:12:54 GMT -5
There are so many others I can see as WWE Champion, including people like Kennedy, Carlito, hell even MVP. The problem with Cena is that it's the same old crap we see from him all the time, and he doesn't deserve to be listed among people like savage, hogan and so-on.. I have no problem with Cena, I actually liked him back in 2003-2004, but he's made the title look so bad in my opinion, by "pimping" it up and keeping it for so long without actually giving us something new. Long story short, he doesn't deserve to hold the title for a year until he shows us that he deserves it. Damn writters and kids who like him no matter what
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Post by dangerpeanut on Sept 3, 2007 12:16:05 GMT -5
What nobody in this thread has considered is that this terrible spot they are currently in is largely the WWE's own fault.
1. They overlooked widespread drug abuse in their own company for a very long time. 2. They have set John Cena up as the only Superstar of WWE, literally. He has consistently gone over everyone on the roster and had the show built around him. All of the fresh talent has jobbed to him, leaving nobody on the roster that has any credibility.
So, saying John Cena is the only one suitable for the championship because he is the best is utterly ridiculous.
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Post by Chicago on Sept 3, 2007 12:19:44 GMT -5
There are so many others I can see as WWE Champion, including people like Kennedy, Carlito, hell even MVP. The problem with Cena is that it's the same old crap we see from him all the time, and he doesn't deserve to be listed among people like savage, hogan and so-on.. I have no problem with Cena, I actually liked him back in 2003-2004, but he's made the title look so bad in my opinion, by "pimping" it up and keeping it for so long without actually giving us something new. Long story short, he doesn't deserve to hold the title for a year until he shows us that he deserves it. Damn writters and kids who like him no matter what Cena sells out crowds, merchandise stands & numerous other variations of ways for WWE to make a profit. Carlito, Kennedy & MVP together could not maintain that level of responsibility at this point in their careers. Face it, John Cena is the face of WWE during this current era and much like the Hogan's and Steve Austin's before him, he will continue to be heavyweight champion and main-eventer of Raw unless an injury or movie role comes his way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2007 12:31:29 GMT -5
Honestly, who else could have held the title? HHH and Michaels out with injury, Umaga getting the quickest de-push ever, and with Orton being the biggest waste of talent on the brand by getting in some type of trouble every few months left Cena the only one who could people could actually believe as champion. Who else could win it? Carlito? Booker? Kennedy? If there was someone on the roster who could actually carry raw as the champion, I'd be all for a title change. Orton couldve carried Raw as a heel. With Cena chasing the belt. Until HHH came back with HHH couldve won it. Carlito, kennedy, Umaga couldve made a good heel champion too.
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Post by dmallett4 on Sept 3, 2007 12:33:22 GMT -5
Honestly, who else could have held the title? HHH and Michaels out with injury, Umaga getting the quickest de-push ever, and with Orton being the biggest waste of talent on the brand by getting in some type of trouble every few months left Cena the only one who could people could actually believe as champion. Who else could win it? Carlito? Booker? Kennedy? If there was someone on the roster who could actually carry raw as the champion, I'd be all for a title change. Orton couldve carried Raw as a heel. With Cena chasing the belt. Until HHH came back with HHH couldve won it. Carlito, kennedy, Umaga couldve made a good heel champion too. but orton is the biggest waste of space ever.
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Post by Mark on Sept 3, 2007 12:39:18 GMT -5
Seems like a bad buisness move
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Post by jmars on Sept 3, 2007 12:41:25 GMT -5
There are so many others I can see as WWE Champion, including people like Kennedy, Carlito, hell even MVP. The problem with Cena is that it's the same old crap we see from him all the time, and he doesn't deserve to be listed among people like savage, hogan and so-on.. I have no problem with Cena, I actually liked him back in 2003-2004, but he's made the title look so bad in my opinion, by "pimping" it up and keeping it for so long without actually giving us something new. Long story short, he doesn't deserve to hold the title for a year until he shows us that he deserves it. Damn writters and kids who like him no matter what Cena sells out crowds, merchandise stands & numerous other variations of ways for WWE to make a profit. Carlito, Kennedy & MVP together could not maintain that level of responsibility at this point in their careers. Face it, John Cena is the face of WWE during this current era and much like the Hogan's and Steve Austin's before him, he will continue to be heavyweight champion and main-eventer of Raw unless an injury or movie role comes his way. This is exactly why wrestling has become less of a joy for me. Kids love this guy, for God knows whatever reason, thus making him reign even longer. Truth is, you're right, but I obviously don't like it. He wouldn't have lasted one month in the Attitude Era, something I think of as a sort of "golden age". So you're right about Cena basically carrying the buisness, but I for one really don't like what the WWE and the child fans are doing to the title AND Cena.
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Post by ruthlessagression on Sept 3, 2007 12:41:34 GMT -5
Im sick of seeing his face on TV and in every single ing wrestling fig section of a store.
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Post by jdsnow14 on Sept 3, 2007 12:48:44 GMT -5
cena should have the title for as long as he can defend it for or as long as he wants it
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Post by Chicago on Sept 3, 2007 12:53:03 GMT -5
Cena sells out crowds, merchandise stands & numerous other variations of ways for WWE to make a profit. Carlito, Kennedy & MVP together could not maintain that level of responsibility at this point in their careers. Face it, John Cena is the face of WWE during this current era and much like the Hogan's and Steve Austin's before him, he will continue to be heavyweight champion and main-eventer of Raw unless an injury or movie role comes his way. This is exactly why wrestling has become less of a joy for me. Kids love this guy, for God knows whatever reason, thus making him reign even longer. Truth is, you're right, but I obviously don't like it. He wouldn't have lasted one month in the Attitude Era, something I think of as a sort of "golden age". So you're right about Cena basically carrying the buisness, but I for one really don't like what the WWE and the child fans are doing to the title AND Cena. I understand, because I almost feel the same way at times. I look back to 1997, for instance, and remember just how raw and in your face wrestling was, especially with the nWo and the resurgence of Shawn and Hunter's careers with DX. Then, I look at what WWE attempts to make controversial and new today with a goofier, older Shawn and Hunter and it just looks weak. Granted, there are things I enjoy occasionally with WWE, but everything is so toned down and bland compared to the excitement and talent WWE possessed ten years ago.
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