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Post by banting on Nov 20, 2007 11:05:42 GMT -5
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Post by brethitmanhart on Nov 20, 2007 11:07:42 GMT -5
Yeah, they shouldn't wipe him out of WWE history. I know what he did was wrong but wiping out his legacy is even worse.
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Post by dalethegreat on Nov 20, 2007 11:18:47 GMT -5
Yeah, they shouldn't wipe him out of WWE history. I know what he did was wrong but wiping out his legacy is even worse. Wiping out a murderer's legacy is NOT worse than murdering a women and child.
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Post by lancewiget on Nov 20, 2007 12:19:03 GMT -5
wel yes it is because you are trying to erase everything he has ever done BEFORE he went mad. He went mad for 2/3 days. His legacy lasted 22 years.
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Post by class316 on Nov 20, 2007 12:23:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2007 12:23:49 GMT -5
And he threw 22 years away in just 2/3 days when he MURDERED his wife and child.
This will be locked just like every other Beniot thread, as it should be.
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Post by oneil4life on Nov 20, 2007 12:31:11 GMT -5
And he threw 22 years away in just 2/3 days when he MURDERED his wife and child. This will be locked just like every other Beniot thread, as it should be. yeah but is that fair to all his opponents....think of it this way, you erase benoit from wcw, you erase the 4 horsmen as a whole, including flair and some of their biggest angles.... you erase his title losses then you erase others wins which isnt fair to them. i'm not saying benoit deserves publicity, i just dont think its fair to all his opponents over the years to erase him and all his work
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Post by RWA on Nov 20, 2007 12:42:18 GMT -5
he was one of the best and deserves a HOF spot and I couln't give a crap what anyone else thinks
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Post by CBT on Nov 20, 2007 12:51:48 GMT -5
Simple question.
Does there have to be total loyalty to whether or not Chris Benoit's (in-ring) work can still be respected?
I mean, here's an off the wall but slightly fair comparison.
Shawn Michaels gets in a car accident, becoming paraplegic. Does that change your views on every thing he has done, now that you have a refigured opinion of where he stands currently?
What I'm getting at is simple.
A very small majority believe that Chris Benoit is innocent in one facile or another.
But in truth, it is rather split on those who know what happened. Unfathomable, Uncalled for, Unforeseen, and Unimaginable events. Taking two innocent lifes, and one that can or can not be forgiven. But shouldn't have died in the first place.
Of all who faced reality. Not one of them should have to erase the respect of the professional, in loathe of what the man did on one emphatic weekend.
It's like telling a long-time wrestling fan- "Those guys you like were good, but they are old timers, you should really cheer for Orton, Batista, Cena and the guys who wrestle in 2007."
It's so disrespectful to be told who to like or not to like. Especially as if you have no intellectual capacity to make a rash decision.
Bottom-line. You can build me up or down, at your discretion, on why Benoit should be remember like Milli Vanilli. An imposter.
But I will always look past that, and think, how sad it is that we only know so much. That a young man will never become just that; a man. That a woman (no pun honestly intended) may have been emotionally at peace; and I mean that in a distraught way. That she had every power in her being to get out but no idea that it was a do or die consequence.
I also think about people who aspired to be wrestlers because of him. Or already have trained and or patented their style in essence of how big a role he was on them following their dreams.
The worst thing is you may lose every fiber you had of respect for him. But talking ill of the dead is as bad as it gets. His time sheet has been handed in, his hours have been long filled. He isn't returning to the job, so why even bother to pick a fight with some one who will never in hindsight defend himself?
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Post by class316 on Nov 20, 2007 13:32:28 GMT -5
It is so annoying at how every Benoit thread turns into a discussion of “is he evil or not”.
This was a topic about WWE mentioning him and the fact that desecrating history is bad.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by CBT on Nov 20, 2007 13:36:43 GMT -5
It is so annoying at how every Benoit thread turns into a discussion of “is he evil or not”. This was a topic about WWE mentioning him and the fact that desecrating history is bad. Nothing more, nothing less. I agree entirely, but I support every thing I said, for the exact reason you gave. That being that, it's really foolish for them to show it, and yet redirect those who try and watch it. Than again, may just have been in his bio all along.
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Post by ericbischoff on Nov 20, 2007 13:45:54 GMT -5
Seriously, I can't understand why people went over the top about Benoit? None of UK people went over the top about Benoit, really. We all know he doing something wrong, but he still human-being.
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Post by layzie on Nov 20, 2007 14:00:47 GMT -5
i think ehats going to happen if that theyll eventually begin to bing his name up here and there, although that transition probably wont take place for years.
this particular situatio...they probably just put jerichos old profile back online more or less, and that was one of the vids there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2007 14:39:14 GMT -5
I just don't understand why Benoit is the only wrestler to be erased from history by the WWE. So many wrestlers have been destructive to themselves and others over the years, but it's ok to show their matches. Ms. Elizabeth died from an overdose while she was with Lex Luger but we can still watch Lex's matches despite this. Sycho Sid stabbed Arn Anderson multiple times, but we still watch his matches, in fact, the high point of his career was AFTER that incident.
Wrestlers are human and they make mistakes. Some do to psychological issues, some do to drugs, other's we will just never know why. It doesn't mean we should completely forget about them or never watch them wrestle again. I for one enjoyed Benoit's matches and nothing will change that. He may be a murderer but he was a wrestler first and that's the side of him I want to remember.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 20, 2007 16:38:57 GMT -5
Benoit murdered two people and then offed himself rather than face the consequences. No matter how you look at it, the man was a coward and a murderer. The fact that he could wrestle isn't even germane to this discussion.
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Nov 20, 2007 16:42:42 GMT -5
He's mentioned a bajillion times on WWE.com in the archive pages.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Nov 20, 2007 16:47:28 GMT -5
I have to go with CBT on this. I know what he did, it was terrible, but I'm going to try and remember him for what he did before all that. I don't like people telling me I can't enjoy good wrestling.
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Post by Lennon on Nov 20, 2007 16:52:29 GMT -5
wel yes it is because you are trying to erase everything he has ever done BEFORE he went mad. He went mad for 2/3 days. His legacy lasted 22 years. Wow, you're ing stupid...
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Nov 20, 2007 17:38:51 GMT -5
Simple question. Does there have to be total loyalty to whether or not Chris Benoit's (in-ring) work can still be respected? I mean, here's an off the wall but slightly fair comparison. Shawn Michaels gets in a car accident, becoming paraplegic. Does that change your views on every thing he has done, now that you have a refigured opinion of where he stands currently? What I'm getting at is simple. A very small majority believe that Chris Benoit is innocent in one facile or another. But in truth, it is rather split on those who know what happened. Unfathomable, Uncalled for, Unforeseen, and Unimaginable events. Taking two innocent lifes, and one that can or can not be forgiven. But shouldn't have died in the first place. Of all who faced reality. Not one of them should have to erase the respect of the professional, in loathe of what the man did on one emphatic weekend. It's like telling a long-time wrestling fan- "Those guys you like were good, but they are old timers, you should really cheer for Orton, Batista, Cena and the guys who wrestle in 2007." It's so disrespectful to be told who to like or not to like. Especially as if you have no intellectual capacity to make a rash decision. Bottom-line. You can build me up or down, at your discretion, on why Benoit should be remember like Milli Vanilli. An imposter. But I will always look past that, and think, how sad it is that we only know so much. That a young man will never become just that; a man. That a woman (no pun honestly intended) may have been emotionally at peace; and I mean that in a distraught way. That she had every power in her being to get out but no idea that it was a do or die consequence. I also think about people who aspired to be wrestlers because of him. Or already have trained and or patented their style in essence of how big a role he was on them following their dreams. The worst thing is you may lose every fiber you had of respect for him. But talking ill of the dead is as bad as it gets. His time sheet has been handed in, his hours have been long filled. He isn't returning to the job, so why even bother to pick a fight with some one who will never in hindsight defend himself? That is quite possibly the best perspective on this whole situation I have heard. Kudos man, I really believe everything you said.
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Post by taker1 on Nov 20, 2007 17:52:22 GMT -5
I have to go with CBT on this. I know what he did, it was terrible, but I'm going to try and remember him for what he did before all that. I don't like people telling me I can't enjoy good wrestling. Exactly. What Benoit did was horrible, but I'm going to remember him as Chris Benoit, the kayfabe performer, not Benoit the real life person. And no, erasing him from the record books isn't as bad as what he did, but it's still the wrong thing to do and two wrongs don't make a right. You can't change history- it already happened.
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