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Post by carly1988 on Jun 24, 2008 18:42:35 GMT -5
if you look closely WHC is the same as it was in WCW accept WCW is off it and theWWE Logo is on the top. Same witht he US, its just updated a little... We're not talking about the design of the belt, but the linage of the belt. Also WCW was never written at any point on "Big Goldy" WWE uses the NWA/WCW United States title linage to give the title more prestige BUT they only start the WHC title linage at 02 where Bischoff handed the title to Triple H so that the WHC doesnt have a longer and better title linage then its own WWE Title
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Post by justtooratedr on Jun 24, 2008 19:32:48 GMT -5
Maybe if smackdown was on a different night. friday nights is HORRIBLE for a show. i know i'll never watch it. i'm always out doing things on fridays.
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Post by Iron Man on Jun 24, 2008 19:34:23 GMT -5
Whats wrong with a Thursday Night? People always said back when SD was on Thursdays that it was a horrible time slot. I understand Friday's because people are usual out or working or whatever.
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Post by scoobypat on Jun 24, 2008 19:41:13 GMT -5
if you look closely WHC is the same as it was in WCW accept WCW is off it and theWWE Logo is on the top. Same witht he US, its just updated a little... ... but the WHC was originally on Raw and only came to Smackdown in 2006.
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Post by T1 on Jun 24, 2008 19:52:14 GMT -5
if you look closely WHC is the same as it was in WCW accept WCW is off it and theWWE Logo is on the top. Same witht he US, its just updated a little... We're not talking about the design of the belt, but the linage of the belt. Also WCW was never written at any point on "Big Goldy" WWE uses the NWA/WCW United States title linage to give the title more prestige BUT they only start the WHC title linage at 02 where Bischoff handed the title to Triple H so that the WHC doesnt have a longer and better title linage then its own WWE Title I'd be willing to bet the big reason they didn't have the World Title as a continuation of the WCW Title is because of how the belt was hot shotted around in 2000. If my memory serves me right, the title changed hands EIGHTEEN TIMES in 2000, almost equivilent to the # of times the World Title has changed hands since 2002. All the WCW title reigns in 2000 lasted like a couple days/weeks if lucky up until Scott Steiner won the belt. VINCE FRIGGIN' RUSSO WON THE BELT! Having stuff like this on the lineage of the World Heavyweight Championship would be disgusting, considering how well the belt( and the WWE Title) has been booked since the Brand Extension started. The U.S. Title wasn't hot shotted around as much as the WCW Title in 2000 . and even if it were, nobody would care because it's a midcard championship.
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Post by Sound888 on Jun 24, 2008 20:06:36 GMT -5
Hell Vince RARELY appears on the show Did you sleep past 2003?
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Post by thepeopleschamp on Jun 24, 2008 20:21:11 GMT -5
Actually you're the idiot. If I remember correctly, the "real" WWE title was actually on Smackdown up until 2005. It might even go back to Smackdown, who knows. And alot of people did like Smackdown better from interviews I have read. Guys like Booker T, Kurt Angle, and Guerrero have all said in interviews I have read before that they enjoy being on Smackdown much more then Raw. And the US title is much better and has more credibility then the IC title. And who the cares about the tag belts anymore anyways? Look at WWE's biggest star, Undertaker. Where has he been the last 6 years? Exactly. Where exactly is Booker T and Kurt Angle at right now? How do you figure the US title has more credibility? It was invented just like the European. WWE can try to use the NWA/WCW title linage but when a title is defunct for years it loses all prestige, not to mention the title linage was combined with the IC when Edge won it in the ladder match. From what Im hearing the only reason Taker has been on SD is because Triple H is on raw. Now that Triple H is on SD Taker could be heading to Raw..OR Trips will stay in SD until Taker returns and then HHH will be back again on Raw. Honestly if there is heat between Taker and HHH it wouldnt surprise me at all as they are probably the 2 people in the company with the most "stroke" so they need to keep them separated so their egos dont clash whaen the did Edge win it in a ladder match? It got combined when he beat Test one on one
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Post by avalanche on Jun 24, 2008 21:00:33 GMT -5
SmackDown has been the better WWE show for a long, long time. Coming up to 3 years, to be exact. However, due to the fact it doesn't have as much star power and is a pre-recorded program and sometimes the storylines make RAW look like the better brand, it'll always be considered the B-Show. The fact that it's pre-recorded really takes away from it for me. Having that "anything can happen" feeling really adds to the show, which is the reason why most of the big suprises happen on Raw. Also, on Smackdown they've used the exact same fake crowd cheer since it's inception. Anytime the crowd is dead when there is supposed to be a big cheer (like a main event announcement) they play that stupid distinct soundclip.
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Post by Thumper: One Year Later on Jun 24, 2008 21:09:50 GMT -5
I think Smackdown benefitted the most from the draft. Frankly, Raw looks like garbage to me now. I hate Mysterio, I hate Cena, I could care less about Batista, JBL sucks. I like Kane, but he is just going to job on Raw just like Santino and Carlito. Orton is injured, so I have no real desire to watch Raw anymore except for the hbk/y2j feud.
Smackdown now has HHH and Edge. While I dont care for Hardy's character, he puts on some great matches. If I had to pick a show to watch before the draft to watch, it would be Raw, but now I would much rather watch Smackdown.
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Post by Bob Sapp on Jun 24, 2008 21:15:57 GMT -5
The draft didn't really hurt RAW, but it helped SmackDown.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jun 24, 2008 21:25:51 GMT -5
We're not talking about the design of the belt, but the linage of the belt. Also WCW was never written at any point on "Big Goldy" WWE uses the NWA/WCW United States title linage to give the title more prestige BUT they only start the WHC title linage at 02 where Bischoff handed the title to Triple H so that the WHC doesnt have a longer and better title linage then its own WWE Title I'd be willing to bet the big reason they didn't have the World Title as a continuation of the WCW Title is because of how the belt was hot shotted around in 2000. If my memory serves me right, the title changed hands EIGHTEEN TIMES in 2000, almost equivilent to the # of times the World Title has changed hands since 2002. All the WCW title reigns in 2000 lasted like a couple days/weeks if lucky up until Scott Steiner won the belt. VINCE FRIGGIN' RUSSO WON THE BELT! Having stuff like this on the lineage of the World Heavyweight Championship would be disgusting, considering how well the belt( and the WWE Title) has been booked since the Brand Extension started. The U.S. Title wasn't hot shotted around as much as the WCW Title in 2000 . and even if it were, nobody would care because it's a midcard championship. I was thinking the same thing actually. I would most def start a new lineage after the title had been in the garbage for like that. BUT.......lets not forget that WWE, whenever they're good and ready, will infact, most definately, use both titles' lineage to make a sum amount of title reigns. Which explains HHH's 12 times, rocks 7 times and so on and so forth. as for SD and RAW, raw has had that anything can haoppen vibe going which is why it just feels like the better show. Its mostly mental. If you know a show is taped then very few things enter your mind a to whagt can happen. If something goes wrong, its edited out, if the crowd's dead, they fix that too with a sound board. If i have 2 wrestling shows, One that feels like a live wrfestling show when i watch it and one that feels like a syndicated sitcom/drama. Which one am i gonna watch? And dont get me wrong, SD definately has the better wrestling, but sadly, thats not what today's casual fan and 7-12 year old want tosee. They want to see cena retain every week they want to see 20 min diva search segments, they want to see midgets do frogsplashes and thatswhat they get on RAW which is why its the A show.
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Post by RBW on Jun 24, 2008 21:49:23 GMT -5
Now that HHH is on S.D I guess Edge won't have the belt very very soon
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Post by BigDaddyChacon on Jun 25, 2008 0:24:57 GMT -5
I've considered Smackdown the "A" show for the longest time. I can't stand Raw at all.
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Post by mania on Jun 25, 2008 0:46:27 GMT -5
lmao, SuckDown will always be the "B" show.
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Post by mania on Jun 25, 2008 0:48:54 GMT -5
Hell Vince RARELY appears on the show Did you sleep past 2003? You do know that was 5 years ago?
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Post by TommyHyland46 on Jun 25, 2008 0:57:25 GMT -5
Yes, it is and will remain the "B" show, if for nothing else, having existed for a shorter time period that Raw. Smackdown going live would also help.
too the person who said smackdown has world and wwe title while raw only has ecw title....talk to me after Night of Champions...b/c ur comment has no bearing because everyone knows it wont end up that way!
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 25, 2008 2:56:28 GMT -5
Smackdown will always be the B show for the simple fact that the only people who watch it are those who don't go out on Friday nights. I for one will not be staying home on friday nights to watch Smackdown.
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Post by layzie on Jun 25, 2008 2:58:59 GMT -5
Why SmackDown! isn't live? LMAOOOOO
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Jun 25, 2008 4:49:29 GMT -5
Raw will always be the underlying flagship. SD is always secondary and ECW is ranked 3rd. If you ask me, Raw just robbed huge elements from other brands. ECW lost its two highest stars, SD lost its voice of its duration, plus the addition of multiple other main eventers.
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Post by Fury on Jun 25, 2008 5:04:22 GMT -5
Meh I've pretty much always viewed SD as the best WWE program of the week and after this draft they definantely at least came out as equal. They got Triple H, the hottest face in the E atm (Hardy) plus the best announcer of all time. Anything Raw got, SD got at least something in equal or greater value for them. SD is gonna get even more entertaining.
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