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Post by aaron34 on Jan 3, 2024 16:34:39 GMT -5
Koko would look a lot better if it had the checkered diamond on the side of his pants. This looks like more of a New foundation Figure than a High Energy figure. Good catch. Since that is a render, hopefully they can fix that before production. Also, what are the chances of a chase for Koko? He did wear red pants towards the end of their run: that red would be very cool for a chase
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 28, 2023 0:00:49 GMT -5
Onita looks great!!
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 27, 2023 20:28:40 GMT -5
Happy to see people resolving their issues without things becoming heated. The Grapplers and Gimmicks line is not at the level of other companies. Mitch has not given any hints as to what changes he plans to make in the future (if any). None of us are privy to the finances of the company, how much he is making, or if he has even recouped his costs thus far. There have just been rumblings and snide remarks/accusations made elsewhere. Regardless, I really hope that these are “growing pains” and Mitch is able to make improvements with each release. For now, I’m happy to have representations of some of my most beloved memories as a child. Wild characters from a simpler time. But at some point there does need to be commitment to bettering your product. Those are my standards. Each independent company has shown they are willing and capable so that is what we should all expect out of Mitch. I agree with all of this. For me the only thing is, people seem happy with how quickly Mitch’s figures are coming out, this seems to impact the quality. The other guys - zst chella - seem to be putting out quality people are raving about but taking 2 years from order/payment date. So it feels like for G+G quality to improve there could be a time sacrifice in speed to market.
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 27, 2023 20:19:33 GMT -5
Happy to see people resolving their issues without things becoming heated. The Grapplers and Gimmicks line is not at the level of other companies. Mitch has not given any hints as to what changes he plans to make in the future (if any). None of us are privy to the finances of the company, how much he is making, or if he has even recouped his costs thus far. There have just been rumblings and snide remarks/accusations made elsewhere. Regardless, I really hope that these are “growing pains” and Mitch is able to make improvements with each release. For now, I’m happy to have representations of some of my most beloved memories as a child. Wild characters from a simpler time. But at some point there does need to be commitment to bettering your product. Those are my standards. Each independent company has shown they are willing and capable so that is what we should all expect out of Mitch. I agree completely - G+G has the chance of producing great figures, but they are NOT on the same level of Zombie or Epic.
the recent releases from Epic have clearly proven they are NOT Chella in a different name - the figures we've had from Epic (Greg Valentine/Demolition/Powers of Pain) all look and feel like quality wrestling figures, and that's taken them a year to get this point.
Zombie's figures are works of art (arm length aside) but both companies have set the standard for the other indies to follow - G+G has a LONG way to catch up, and sadly, when Mitch has been interviewed, he's never given any impression that he plans to take his company beyond where it's at right now. which is a shame, the lineup he's got is on a par with Mattel, Epic and Zombie, yet the quality of his figures compared to the rest are coming in at fifth place or below. if that changes, if he took the time, invested some more money into the production and got a factory that can produce what his artwork suggests they're making, then he'd be onto a winning formula.
I just don't have that confidence based on what I've seen (and paid for) to date, and how the quality went back to Ahmed level, after Mabel and Mo. if people are prepared to recognise that G+G is not going to put out quality items, then good luck to them in buying them. but I'd rather invest my money into figures I know won't fall apart or lose paint in 12 months time.
so if Mitch improves quality and goes to releasing 4-6 products every 12-18 months you’ll be ok with this? Or maybe Mitch is happy with his speed to market, happy with his product, and happy with his sales and will continue down the same track until any of these things change. He’s shown he’s happy to change design based on feedback. Maybe he’s happy with how they are coming out?
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 27, 2023 20:17:11 GMT -5
sorry if i came across as aggressive, it wasn’t my intention. I find it really frustrating that all these small startups are doing there best to launch a toyline and getting smashed from people who don’t step up and have a crack. I admit i have been derogatory towards Zombie sailor- he comes across as an absolute a*s. Mitch’s line isn’t perfect, and he probably has tried to release too many figures too quickly, but would you rather have 10 figures in 12 months with a few imperfections or 6 figures in 2 years that still have imperfections??? Also has anyone on here who criticises dealt with design, artwork, factories in china? Probably outlaying some money of his own while also probably working a job. For me, they are adding to our collections, giving us figures we all wanted. For pre orders, if you get onboard and take the risk based on concepts good for you, if they aren’t perfect, sh*t happens. If they are a hit and there is a demand after the release, why shouldn’t he make as much money as he can. I am the type of person who calls people out face to face… and britishbrickfan or whatever is a constant critic - criticise the product not the person and there morals, sorry that is a bully and a coward. I have no problem with constructive criticism of a product but constant ongoing cheap shots and character assassination is not ok. Wow what a rant, Merry xmas!!! meanwhile, I am more than happy to continue to criticise Mitch and any other company who fails to invest in their own product, especially after a successful start.
do I have a problem with Mitch as a person? No, not really. I dislike his business strategy of overcharging for a product that isn't worth ten per cent of the retail price, and I dislike his attempts to cash in on FOMO by overcharging for the same products on eBay.
his solution to the backing card issue was - stick them in plastic bags and add another $10 to the price, rather than admit to his own failures and take the hit.
I bought his Ahmed, and regretted it the moment I opened the package and the figure fell apart. Now I understand that the figure was made by Rush, but it was sold with G+G's branding and Mitch tried to defend it as "What could I have done?" - used a professional manufacturing outlet would have been a start....
Mitch did an interview with 3POA where he literally tried to pass off the failings of his figures with the excuse "The factory is in China, what am I supposed to do?" - whose decision was it to make them in China? His. Whose decision was it to make them in a way where he only receives the final product, after they've all been made? His.
you say you don't like me (or others) criticising these startups? why are these businesses exempt from standard practice of a startup where the financial burden/risk sits with the business holder, not the customer?? why should we be prepared to put our money on the line (as we have with G+G and others) and take the L when it goes wrong? I don't believe any of these companies should be putting out concept art as their pre-order artwork, they really need to invest their own money (bank loans are available for this....) and have an incentive to manufacture a quality product worthy of the prices they're charging.
to date, we've had (ignoring repaints):
Smoke Train - looks nothing like Godfather Ahmed Johnson - literally fell apart for many people, not just me
Men on a Mission - apparently decent quality figures compared to the previous (which isn't exactly a high bar to reach) Godwinns - people who received them after MOM have questioned why the quality went backwards Savio Vega - ok figure, compared to what could have been
his figures all have the same problems with the torso seams - it's an easy fix, for a factory that knows what it's doing. there's no excuse to be 6 figures in and still have the same problems as figure 1.
I'd love to buy Droese, I'm just waiting to see what the final product is like before taking that plunge, because I've been burned on previous G+G figures and don't want to waste my money on something that currently looks like it reuses previously released parts. if that means I'm paying $10 more for someone profiting on eBay, so be it. G+G doesn't need my investment to proceed, but I'm not preordering anything from them until the quality of the finished products is that of something worth $25 or more. (right now, his figures aren't even worth $5, but he'd make a healthy profit selling them at that price!)
ultimately the market dictates the price and the product, they keep selling and then aftermarket selling too. so moving forward with all your poor experiences of continual let down don’t buy them.
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 27, 2023 2:59:51 GMT -5
how do you know what his M.O is when it comes to costs? Why don’t you just provide constructive criticism instead of the bs keyboard warrior rubbish you put in nearly everything you post. You have so much opinion, maybe you should step up and start your own line of figures. Your hate commentary is getting old. I really wonder why peopke are always so aggressive on this board. Would you call out someone this way if you were sitting next to him at the bar? I own MOM, Godwinns and Savio. Passed on Godfather and Ahmed. All 5 look cheap. While MOM were allright despite the weird lines on the arms, just because finally having a MOM set is simply awesome, Godwinns had a significant drop in quality. I and others are willing to support smaller projects (don’t call them a company) and forgive issues that are typical for beginners as long as there is a constant evolution of the product. Mitch however appears to struggle with maintaining the (allright) quality of the MOM set with future releases. Add the constant scalping of his own line and the guy doesn’t come along like „one of us“ but more like a greedy clown people wonder if he is really support worthy. sorry if i came across as aggressive, it wasn’t my intention. I find it really frustrating that all these small startups are doing there best to launch a toyline and getting smashed from people who don’t step up and have a crack. I admit i have been derogatory towards Zombie sailor- he comes across as an absolute a*s. Mitch’s line isn’t perfect, and he probably has tried to release too many figures too quickly, but would you rather have 10 figures in 12 months with a few imperfections or 6 figures in 2 years that still have imperfections??? Also has anyone on here who criticises dealt with design, artwork, factories in china? Probably outlaying some money of his own while also probably working a job. For me, they are adding to our collections, giving us figures we all wanted. For pre orders, if you get onboard and take the risk based on concepts good for you, if they aren’t perfect, sh*t happens. If they are a hit and there is a demand after the release, why shouldn’t he make as much money as he can. I am the type of person who calls people out face to face… and britishbrickfan or whatever is a constant critic - criticise the product not the person and there morals, sorry that is a bully and a coward. I have no problem with constructive criticism of a product but constant ongoing cheap shots and character assassination is not ok. Wow what a rant, Merry xmas!!!
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 27, 2023 0:52:21 GMT -5
I think a new ring is great, a different mat colour would be cool. This would go great with an exclusive retro!! Maybe Vince!
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 26, 2023 19:06:57 GMT -5
Duke looks like he has the yellow godwinns face. I hope not wouldn't surprise me if he does, spending real money on this line is not Mitch's M.O. how do you know what his M.O is when it comes to costs? Why don’t you just provide constructive criticism instead of the bs keyboard warrior rubbish you put in nearly everything you post. You have so much opinion, maybe you should step up and start your own line of figures. Your hate commentary is getting old.
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 19, 2023 15:28:44 GMT -5
Both headbangers and effy look great. A massive improvement on the original pics.
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 19, 2023 15:25:55 GMT -5
I think awesome looks great can you expand on that please?
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 18, 2023 4:42:13 GMT -5
For anyone who missed them first or second time round and has $275 spare the MOM exclusives are back up on their website, www.hastteltoy.com they’re not on the site anymore.
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 15, 2023 2:50:13 GMT -5
Yeah this isn’t good
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 15, 2023 0:43:04 GMT -5
Saw a picture of the Mounties...ahem....I mean the Canadians....they don't look as good as the computer renders. Wanted to get these but on the line about them now. http://instagram.com/p/C0z2OZmuNuy once again he has a low bar to reach, and still under delivers
these look AWFUL!!!!
Ouellet's head is just round, and the hair looks terrible!! he had either short hair, or a buzz cut but he NEVER had a full head like this! plus, he mainly had either blonde highlights or light brown hair overall. not black!
and Jacques? could be passable if the hair, as with Pierre, wasn't so bad!
this just another Rushed job, clearly
Did Mitch break up with you on Valentines day or something??
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 11, 2023 22:45:07 GMT -5
No idea how this works but i know the separate threads were made to keep this easy to follow so shouldn't the top page be updated somehow to include announcer ray rougeau and the fabulous rougeau brothers now they've been announced? What are you talking about? It’s been updated quite some seconds ago. does it need to be updated everytime there is a new release??
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Post by aaron34 on Dec 2, 2023 15:50:04 GMT -5
I bought MoM, Godwinns, and Savio, and they all have a variety of problems. I wanted Diana to go with my Hasbros but she looks awful. I'm just done with Mitch. His product isn't good. Best of luck to him, but I'm done with this dollar store 3d printed sh*t. The only thing he's doing well is getting figures in hand in a timely fashion but I'd rather wait five years for Zombie before spending another dime with Mitch. Mitch is treading Sal territory with his crap product. geez feel the jealousy and hate here. His figs are selling out… ALL OF THEM. I’m sure the Bulldog/Diana set will too.
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Post by aaron34 on Nov 23, 2023 18:10:13 GMT -5
FOMO is a big part of it - people think "This might be my only chance!" so jump right in at the preorder stage, buying doubles or multiples (with an eye on resales)
but when the production figures are finally revealed, there's usually a number of people who receive it, and go "Nah, it's not worth it" and immediately flip what they've got for the early sales opportunities on the secondary market
trust me - no-one will miss anything by not buying one at preorder, wait to see what the quality is of the finished product and then buy, if you think it's worth it. that's the best advice I can offer anyone in this market right now - just wait to see the finished goods to avoid disappointment.
Yeah deffo!! it’s personal preference. Some people are happy to pay up front for pre orders knowing they are taking a chance on quality, receiving a poor product or a product that you aren’t happy with - i’m sure we’ve all done it. I’m ok with getting a good price if you’re willing to buy “off the plan”. If he’s sold what he needs and considers it a success/profitable and then has extras that people are now chasing and after - and let’s be honest, regardless of product, these seem to be selling out pretty quickly, why not as a seller charge what he can and make the most money for his time and effort. Just my opinion. I haven’t bought any of these figures - the only reason is postage price to Australia is ridiculous! I can honestly say I would’ve bought all except Smoke Train if i thought shipping was reasonable.
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Post by aaron34 on Nov 23, 2023 3:28:47 GMT -5
Men on a Mission are selling well enough on Ebay he will be able to get away with it. It does really feel like he is punishing those of us that just got back into collecting. That's his model though, pre-order or pay through the nose. I don't see the point though, his figures really aren't that good
he may have the talent signed, he's just not got the talent to deliver what they deserve
they’re selling, enough people must think they are good enough.
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Post by aaron34 on Nov 22, 2023 19:58:33 GMT -5
Im not digging the 2 pack as a whole. Financially I’m not sure if it would be better to get stuck sitting on 500 Diana figures or if you want to sell fewer Bulldog figures by packaging them with Diana. I think selling Bulldog individually could have offset the cost of the Diana figure but I guess time will tell. Although Diana wasn’t a wrestler, it is funny to think about how similar figures are being made for short runs. The Executioner being one example. Bully Busick is up there as well. Though to be fair, Diana Hart Smith was featured a lot more in the WWF in 1995 as well as returning for Wrestlemania 26…though we never did see that jacket again. i feel like there will still be enough people who will want that Bulldog that will pony up for the two pack. Just my thought/opinion
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Post by aaron34 on Nov 22, 2023 19:55:03 GMT -5
Well I own a 3D printer since 2011 and have printed a couple Hasbros in ABS - same material as a Lego brick (for personal use, I don't sell or print for others). The 3D printer I used for those can only carry one 750g spool of ABS filament, that spool costs around $25. 3D printing a Hasbro including supports (the waste that you have to clean up from a part) is about 80 - 90 grams of filament. So 3D printing a Hasbro costs $3 in material, ofcourse you also have to account electricity; 10 hours in my case. Do you have any pictures of the Hasbros you printed? would be cool to see some pictures!
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Post by aaron34 on Nov 21, 2023 20:15:19 GMT -5
It’s a hard one, bulldog does look very good, Diana does look very bad, will this sale strategy give buyers a bad taste in their mouths - Yes, absolutely, i guess it depends how bad you want that bulldog!
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