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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 27, 2014 7:23:00 GMT -5
Does anyone know when or have any info on this years ringside fest?
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 14, 2014 16:23:29 GMT -5
Above me. Absolutely. But if WE don't purchase from the retailers, then the retailers won't purchase from Mattel. So ultimately, it's the end customer who dictates what should be made (I don't mean that in a rude way at all). If we all chose to stop purchasing figures, the Targets and Retailers of the world would stop buying from Mattel. That's business. So this thread was by no means meant to demand anything or to come across as an unappreciative prick. I buy Mattel figures simply because I think their product is great and worth me investing in.
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 14, 2014 15:09:53 GMT -5
The thing is that at first when Mattel first took over WWE, it was when WWE was really pushing (the then somewhat new) PG branding of the Company. I think this is why we got so many 80 guys in ratio with Attitude Era guys in the legends line, because aside from the biggest draws (IE Rock and Stone Cold) WWE wanted to shy away from the attitude era. They also said that we would not get action figures in street attires or t-shirts (this has since changed). Also that they would not do flashbacks of current wrestlers (now we've had the Giant and HHH flashbacks). I think WWE has loosened up on the PG thing now that they are pushing the Network where a lot of edgier things are available including matches of once completely blacklisted (to the point they would even refuse to mention his name) Chris Benoit. Even so I think there is a reason that it was Razor Ramon and not Scott Hall that got inducted into the Hall of Fame. Razor Ramon is a beloved persona where it's easy to define the line between the Character and the man portraying him. Now Scott Hall the wrestler and Scott Hall the man are not so easy to separate from each other. Due to this I think it is possible for Mattel to take a similar stance and make a Razor Ramon figure from the New Generation Era, but I don't think we'll see a Scott Hall (Outsiders/NWO) figure anytime soon. I agree with this. In the same way that Mattel has given their customers (slowly but surely) most of what is being asked for... I think a Razon Ramon makes perfect sense. This is company that at the end of the day is in business to make profit. it is in business to supply the demand. And like any good business, it listens to its customers. I am sure most if not all wrestlers have a tainted past. In that same token, I doubt parents or kids are doing research on all wrestlers that get released to make sure their real life personas are up to standard.
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 14, 2014 14:59:48 GMT -5
Although I am a new member, it doesn't mean I didn't know SIMILAR questions have been asked. I actually find this site back in January when I googled the topic being discussed here. MDT never clarified why they wouldn't make him, only that they wouldn't. And that comment itself was made about 3 years ago. Before he got inducted into the HOF. So maybe things have changed. Maybe someone knows exactly why they won't or cant. Maybe MDT can say "we won't be making him because were sitting at home watching ESPN and saw the documentary and heard the part of him killing someone". Cool no worries. You can click on MattelDesignTeam and read all of thier posts. Scott Hall comes up quite a bit so there's some good info to be found in their posts history. Yep... check all that stuff already. Not much aside from that comment about 3 years ago when Hall was down in the dumps. Who knows though :/
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 14, 2014 14:50:54 GMT -5
Sorry but all of this is completely absurd to me. Who is Mattel, or anyone else for that matter, to judge Scott Hall based on something that happened so long before his career as Razor Ramon?? Mattel is the company that makes the toys -- if the Mattel guys don't want to make a certain toy, who are you (or any of us) to say they have to make them? Aren't we the customer? Without demand, there is no supply. They can make just John Cena figures from now on, and sooner or later, they'll see the impact it would make on their profits. Therefore, they will have to listen to the customer, because they are the ones buying their figures.
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 14, 2014 14:49:27 GMT -5
Do we have to rehash all of this everytime a new member joins and wants to know when or why not about Scott Hall? Although I am a new member, it doesn't mean I didn't know SIMILAR questions have been asked. I actually find this site back in January when I googled the topic being discussed here. MDT never clarified why they wouldn't make him, only that they wouldn't. And that comment itself was made about 3 years ago. Before he got inducted into the HOF. So maybe things have changed. Maybe someone knows exactly why they won't or cant. Maybe MDT can say "we won't be making him because were sitting at home watching ESPN and saw the documentary and heard the part of him killing someone".
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 14, 2014 14:47:19 GMT -5
Sorry but all of this is completely absurd to me. Who is Mattel, or anyone else for that matter, to judge Scott Hall based on something that happened so long before his career as Razor Ramon?? It obviously didn't stop Vince McMahon from hiring him or making him famous. Giving him the Intercontinental Championship numerous times. You can dig up a skeleton from anyone's closet. Seriously. There's zero reason not to make a Razor Ramon figure. Thank you! COuldn't have put it better myself.
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 14, 2014 12:53:20 GMT -5
Is (insert the overrated wrestler here) signed to a Legends deal? No? Then it's not happening. Until they do, no figure. So help me if this question is asked to MDT again... So, if they're underrated, they don't need a Legends deal? and who exactly is doing the rating?
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 14, 2014 11:50:40 GMT -5
I just don't understand Mattel's reasoning for not wanting to create a figure for, at the very least, Razor Ramon, a character Scott Hall played. A lot of wrestlers have been made into figures by Mattel. A lot of wrestlers who have had substance abuse issues. Some of them died as a result of it and were given figures by Mattel. Maybe to honor them during their prime. But that's the case, then why not honor the Razor Ramon character? I mean, the WWE did. Do they think that by making a figure from a character that was on air 14 years ago, who did something before he was even famous, that a 12 year old would see in a Toys R Us and be offended by it? Or parents at that. Curt Hennig has had 2 figures created by Mattel. Did they not sell well because parents or kids knew that he died from acute cocaine intoxication? Or where they simply excited to see a figure of a character they grew up watching?
I wish we could ask MDT these sorts of questions.
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 13, 2014 21:28:38 GMT -5
Was the ESPN thing all speculation or was it ever confirmed by Mattel? I would be curious to know if Scott has been offered a deal or if he has been scanned. Or just simply "hey when are we going to see a figure of you?!"
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 13, 2014 21:03:36 GMT -5
Howdy y'all...
First and foremost, if this is not the place for this (only reason I'm posting this here is because I see a ton of these topics being discussed here) then please feel free to move to the more adequate section.
If MDT (Bill) can provide some insights that would be great. Other than that, I'd definitely like to hear your thoughts:
So I'm not sure who all here follow wrestlers on twitter/Instagram, but I've been following Scott Hall for some time now. He's definitely all over the independent scene with his son and other well known wrestlers and he looks great. In shape and seems to be doing well in terms of his personal issues. I believe it was never really confirmed by Bill WHY they didn't want to make a Razor Ramon/Scott Hall Elite, but I think the speculation was that the reason Mattel wouldn't make him was because of his well publicized personal issues.
What do you all think are the chances that Mattel or WWE may look at Scott Hall and see the positive changes he has made and sign him to a Legends deal?
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 3, 2014 10:44:40 GMT -5
Well, it would look like we are on our way, no?
Mark Henry is obviously under contract, so I would assume a quick Flashback for him would be feasible. Rocky is coming out towards end of year.
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Jul 3, 2014 10:26:19 GMT -5
Howdy Folks,
Hope all are well.
Would you guys purchase a Flashback Mark Henry in Nation of Domination Attire? I see a lot of Mark Henrys, and I wonder why they haven't done this yet? Also, with Rocky Maivia coming out soon, could it mean they possibly go that route, in regards to Mark Henry?
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