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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 29, 2015 14:54:07 GMT -5
I resisted the HOF Hogan for a while, but I got it last Friday because I was afraid they would recall his figures. I have to say, after buying the figure and taking it out of the box, I really like it. Online and in pictures, the figure doesn't look as good as in real life when you actually have it. I still would have been disappointed if DM Hollywood was a straight up REPAINT of the HOF figure (because that's what the CG image looked like), but it wouldn't have been TERRIBLE....it just wouldn't have been worth the price of a DM. I'm just disappointed that we will probably never get a real Hollywood Hogan or a 2002 Hulk Still Rules Undisputed Champion attire. Mattel really sat there with their thumbs up their asses and wasted over a year of Hulk Hogan being under contract and managed to get out pretty much NONE of his iconic attires. We get 2 Basics and an Elite which represent him currently, the DM and Basic 48 which represents WM3, and a figure of WM9 for some reason....but most people probably think of him like this: Instead of this: Not getting out a 90's Hogan, an nWo Hollywood Hogan, and a 2002 Hogan are pretty much a shame for figure collectors. I would have preferred those over what we ended up getting. Agree with every word of this.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 29, 2015 14:45:58 GMT -5
I'd be interested to know if this would have been the case with Jakks...if they had kept the contract, would they have put there prices up so much that the stores would have to stop selling them? Or are these 'costs' exclusive to Mattel?
I guess you can't please all of the people all of the time, but even if it really is costs, they need to make better choices sometimes. Did we really need the door and table over an actual APA vest?
Another thing is, why spend money on silly accessories to try and 'justify' a higher elite price point? They aren't always needed. Example...Lugar's dumbells...they make the figure silly, no need for them. I'd rather they had saved the money on Lugar's bells and kept the same price point then put that money into someone who need extra attire or accessories. Surely everyone would understand and agree if they did that? I actually didn't buy the figure partly because of the bells and as a MOC collector it put me off...plus I'm holding out for a Narcissist...but I'd have bought the USA one without bells even at £21.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 29, 2015 13:09:37 GMT -5
Firstly I'll say on the whole, Mattel do a great job.
However, sometimes we see things that irritate us where they have got something wrong with a figure you've really wanted.
Some of mine are Mr Perfect's mustard attire, Rick Rudes short hair, Undertaker with no Tie, choice of face/expression for Warrior DM (stops it being one of the greatest figures ever in my view).
What are people's biggest niggles or things that have even stopped you buying a figure you had been waiting for? Or got you hoping they remake someone?
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 28, 2015 11:18:11 GMT -5
I don't think we should close the thread, there have been some informative and funny posts...just the odd idiot trying to spoil it.
To sum up...Repo Man and Brooklyn Brawler could have been Undisputed champions.
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TYSON
Jul 28, 2015 10:20:09 GMT -5
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 28, 2015 10:20:09 GMT -5
I actually can't believe people would rather have a Tyson Kidd figure over the baddest man on the planet.
As for convictions...in no way am I condoning what he did, but I bet the majority of people on here have collections containing wrestlers convicted of crimes.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 28, 2015 7:57:20 GMT -5
Has Bill ever been asked about a DX Mike Tyson? Would be so awesome!
I can't imagine Tyson ever saying no to it? He does some pretty lame stuff like cameos in films and tv shows, would love this figure...anyone heard anything?
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 28, 2015 7:55:05 GMT -5
Surely there's a chance we could get the basic t-shirt Hogan still? He's made, mass produced already and Walmart have already bought him?
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 28, 2015 4:07:50 GMT -5
Meant to ask...what's the situ with Snukka? Did he do something? his girlfriend died under somewhat mysterious circumstances back in the 80's. they just recently reopened the case as a murder investigation at the request of her family. there is a belief/possibility that Snuka murdered her.there's a belief by a lot of people that it was covered up quick by Vince McMahon spreading around a lot of payoffs and "hush" money to police officials. one of the most damning pieces of evidence is that right after she died, Snuka didn't call the cops,didn't call an ambulance. no, his first call after being present for his girlfriends death was to Vince McMahon. No waaaay! Thanks for letting me know man, that's crazy! Could be huge for Vince too then I guess?!
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 28, 2015 4:04:21 GMT -5
No everyone in this thread is "angery" with u because u r an annoying scumbag not one person has liked a thing u said not one person agrees with u maybe that should tell u something and I know u keep replying to us ur stupid non sense just to get ur posts up so take a hike u stupid looking bag Bruh... You don't look any better than him because you just posted that. What's up with this place? A recording of Hogan from years ago saying something he probably regrets deeply surfaces, WWE overreact a little bit (there were other ways of handling this), and people start fighting because we're not getting a Hollywood figure? Adding to that, people are so ignorant to say Jericho didn't deserve the Undisputed title? I guess Benoit and Guerrero didn't put in enough work to deserve to hug with both world titles at Wrestlemania 20, huh? Everyone needs to calm down: What Hogan said was wrong, but the whole situation has been handled poorly. If Hogan remembered saying those things, he should've admitted it before. But either way, WWE should've reacted differently. People who don't like Jericho need to understand the guy worked his ass off to get that honor of beating Rock/Austin. The dude was held down in WCW, but had the heart to go somewhere else where he knew he could succeed if given the chance, and was a pretty good worker. Still is. That we clamor for a Jericho because we love the guy, and want a figure from his biggest run. And that we aren't getting Hollywood Hulk Hogan for a long time. It's sad, but he was still racist. Now, everyone (myself included) should take a deep breath, and think about anything we've said in this thread, and ponder if they really meant it or if they believe it. Because I don't believe that anyone could compare Jericho to Tantaka in anyway and mean it. No disrespect to Tatanka, but he was nothing like Jericho in style, success, or appeal. "A pretty good worker" is hardly an endorsement of someone who was the first undisputed champion for over 50 years! No way did that guy deserve that spot. Loads of Wrestlers work their asses off for years without getting anywhere, you gotta ask with WCW pushing WWE and doing as well as they were...why didn't they use Jericho to beat WWE? They didn't need him to be beating WWE in ratings. It's not a personal thing, Jericho was ok, as you said...a "pretty good" worker, but he's not what people on here are making him out to be. There's nothing wrong with being a decent mid carder in WWE. As for the Tatanka comment, I stand by it, likewise the Red Rooster, Doink, Repo Man and loads of others...they were in their spots because that's where WWE wanted them to be, they worked just as hard if not harder than Jericho and some were as technically gifted if not more so. Jericho was lucky, he got pushed above his station and WWE clearly know they got it wrong as his reign was cut short pretty quick. There really isn't any need for personal abuse or asking for bans...this place is about opinions.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 27, 2015 18:14:55 GMT -5
Summerslam 91 please!
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 27, 2015 17:59:07 GMT -5
Meant to ask...what's the situ with Snukka? Did he do something?
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 27, 2015 17:55:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't be down with a Goldberg, his ridiculously phony record of "1000-0" or whatever rubbish that was, they made out he beat 50 guys a week!
Whoever suggested Vince is a great shout, think they mentioned his Jakks figure that had the suit you could pull off, that was a great figure. Would be cool to have any attitude era vince...maybe the 'big reveal' as the higher power??
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 27, 2015 16:54:53 GMT -5
Jericho isn't Hall of Fame worthy but Koko B Ware is? SMH. You know the WWE Hall of Fame is more a marketing ploy than a respected honor? If WWE wanted to put Gene Snitsky in as the 2016 headliner, they can and will. Within 6 years, Jericho will be in and this conversation will be moot. The Defining Moment line is an excuse to give fans a figure that would cause problems in the normal line with budget issues and place it in a fancy box. Whether you think Jericho is overrated or not, his career had big moments in pro wrestling such as being the first Undisputed World champion in WWE history. Being the greatest wrestler isn't a requirement otherwise half of the folks in the DM line or in the HOF shouldn't happened. I agree, you don't have to be the best wrestler for either, but I was replying to someone who said he was one of the most technically gifted ever and that's just not true. I just don't think he was as great as everyone is saying and in my view did not deserve the accolade of being the first ever undisputed champion. I'm surprised if people GENUINELY believe he was deserving of this and I'm damn sure both the rock and austin would have been PI**ED that they had to drop to him, where as a bigger name/better wrestler would have been respected. Jericho came in, lost a verbal battle with the Rock, feuded with Chyna (!!), surprisingly won the undisputed title, didn't get over enough to push on and lost it inside 3 months to then go on and feud with Christian (!!) He's lucky in my opinion to have had the accolades he's got, and it's simply based on poor decisions by Vince/WWE to decide to push him rather than a reflection of his ability.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 27, 2015 14:15:23 GMT -5
I did, I also compared the amount of IC titles to Sunny's bed post...they're as respectable as each other to me. Never got the Jericho thing, don't believe him to be anywhere near one of the most technically gifted, at all...the guy was a chubby wannabe rock star. Personal opinions aside, he was one hell of a wrestler who consistently put on fantastic matches against the likes of Benoit, Edge, Eddie, HBK, Triple H, Rock, Austin, and many more. You can't put personal opinion aside...it's all subjective, it's not fact. The Red Rooster was technically great, don't see anyone clambering for a DM of him! I honestly didn't think Jericho was that good, he was just lucky that WWE decided to give him the pushes, but in my view he didn't deserve them. I've never seen anyone say Jericho was the greatest wrestler they've had a match with and he'll never go down as one of the greatest of all time, he shouldn't even be mentioned in the same universe as the HOF. It's nothing personal against Jericho, I don't care one jot about him, I just don't feel like he deserved the accolades he got. For me he was never in great shape, comparitably, wasn't the best wrestler (others made him look better than he was) and on the mic he couldn't compete with the Rock/Austin/DX or many others...he only got over on the Mic by taking cheap shots at Stephanie...anyone could have got over doing that. I'd buy an elite flashback, but to me he's just not DM worthy. Side note...narcissist Lex Lugar with Cape and mirrors would be awesome...elite flashback though rather than DM.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 27, 2015 13:28:22 GMT -5
I can't tell you how cringeworthy that list of achievements is...I still can't believe of all the guys they could have pushed into those spots they picked Jericho. It's literally like them making Tatanka WWF champion. Jericho was a half decent mid carder and nothing more, the pushes he got made no sense, and as for the record amount of IC wins, during most of those wins, that title was passed around the locker room more than Sunny was in the 90s (allegedly) and it's only just regaining some prestige (I still think they could make it a stronger division with Reigns etc before they get pushed straight to WWE champion). DM spot should definitely be saved for a real legend, and to be honest I'd take a 2nd figure for the likes of Macho, or as the OP says, Mnkind winning the WWF AE title...that was a DM for all kinds of reasons...MASSIVE a moment in the Monday Night Wars era. Did you genuinely just compare one of the most technically gifted and athletically talented wrestlers ever to ing Tatanka? I did, I also compared the amount of IC titles to Sunny's bed post...they're as respectable as each other to me. Never got the Jericho thing, don't believe him to be anywhere near one of the most technically gifted, at all...the guy was a chubby wannabe rock star.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 27, 2015 12:19:58 GMT -5
Jericho warrants a DM figure, no questions asked to me. But if we're using history as arguments for why a person deserves to be a DM figure then Jericho: First ever Undisputed Champion Beat the Rock and Stone Cold in the same night at the height of both guys popularity. Has held the Intercontinental Championship more times than anyone else Was the first real jump from WCW to the WWF. Prior to him, most big important jumps went the other way. Also, to my recollection, we have yet to receive any sort of flashback attire for Jericho. I can't tell you how cringeworthy that list of achievements is...I still can't believe of all the guys they could have pushed into those spots they picked Jericho. It's literally like them making Tatanka WWF champion. Jericho was a half decent mid carder and nothing more, the pushes he got made no sense, and as for the record amount of IC wins, during most of those wins, that title was passed around the locker room more than Sunny was in the 90s (allegedly) and it's only just regaining some prestige (I still think they could make it a stronger division with Reigns etc before they get pushed straight to WWE champion). DM spot should definitely be saved for a real legend, and to be honest I'd take a 2nd figure for the likes of Macho, or as the OP says, Mnkind winning the WWF AE title...that was a DM for all kinds of reasons...MASSIVE a moment in the Monday Night Wars era.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 20, 2015 16:28:14 GMT -5
Taker should be heel.
The crowd were 50:50 - a lot of booing/suplex City chants...probably as many Un-Der-taker chants.
Grow his beard, put a cloak on him and get the Wyatts with him, screw over people...heel, new ministry, people interested again.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 20, 2015 13:19:58 GMT -5
Taker seriously needs to go heel and become the leader of a new ministry, use the Wyatts.
Keeps takers dignity, keeps him on TV and in a great role, and enables young talent to shine.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 20, 2015 12:07:38 GMT -5
So much about the WWE stinks at the moment.
Generally, the whole 'Reality era' sucks, WWE claim they can't book surprises because fans are too smart...bull...they play up to that and release stuff into public to sell shows.
The commentary team SUCKS bad...MC & JBL are AWFUL and King just isn't the same now...where's the classic 'colour' these days??
Everyone's music is some awful heavy rock track...literally all sound the same, hardly any real pops these days as the crowd take 10 seconds to realise which of the 67 wrestlers it could be.
The booking is terrible too as discussed in here, makes no sense at all and although I'm a huge Undertaker fan, they're just not using him right.
Taker/Lesnar makes no sense now, Sting/Taker would make no sense, never really understood why people would want it, but neither Taker or Sting can lose again at WM so how can you book the match?
Also...as I said, HUGE undertaker mark...BUT why does he come back looking like a bin (garbage) man?! Have his hair either long or bald...and bring back the ministry/long beard. Why the awful MC hammer trousers and Rock climbing boots?? He looked homeless. Bring him back right or don't bother.
For me, a great role for taker would be a heel turn and do anew ministry, maybe with the Wyatts to start it off? Great way to use taker and not have him get in the way of younger talent...keeps his dignity and could even 'win' the title without wrestling, get his daemons to win him the title or something?
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 19, 2015 15:34:27 GMT -5
I'm really annoyed I can't have Paul Bearer MOC and he's BAF! Would love a Mr Fuji
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