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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 1, 2020 13:03:41 GMT -5
I don't think there was ever a plan to bring in Warrior for a world title run, rather Vince wanted to keep him on as a major attraction and nothing more. He didn't even get an IC title run with his feud with Goldust.
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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 1, 2020 13:01:00 GMT -5
Bossman looked done by that point. Good thing he had that late 90s renaissance. I figured he would have had at least one clean loss on ppv somewhere along the way to 1993. Bossman had a decent 1992 run and the Nailz storyline was good. I believe it was a great opportunity to turn Bossman heel in 1993. Losing to Bam Bam and later going back to becoming a dirty cop would be nice. Many storylines can come out of that. I could see him feuding with Bret.
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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 1, 2020 12:58:20 GMT -5
That describes a lot of 1993. a true transition year.... To me, 1992 was the transition year and by January 1993, it was established that bret hart and Yokozuna were going to be their main eventers. Bossman was still strong in 1992 from what I remember, not sure why his feud with Repo Man wasn't as long as it should've been, "cops and robbers" are always fun with kids. The slow build of Nailz was executed well, but couldn't prolong it because of his physical assault on Vince. That pretty much was a dent on Bossman's run.
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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 1, 2020 12:53:45 GMT -5
Maybe you all knew this but I didn't
Bossman losing this match was his first CLEAN ppv loss in the company
That surprised me!
I think you mean as a babyface? I'm positive he lost clean as a heel. I was a fan of bossman, but Bam Bam was the right guy to put over.
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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 1, 2020 12:50:51 GMT -5
We would have gotten Warrior vs Hogan 2. They should have went with that whether it be face vs face or Warrior being the heel. One would have to turn heel and I doubt any of them would want to be a heel at that point. WM6 proved babyface vs. babyface isn't what the masses wanted (except kids, I remember my dad hating Warrior because of WM6 lol). With one of them heel maybe it'd work (especially since you can go on the house shows)
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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 1, 2020 12:46:23 GMT -5
what if there was no war to play an angle off of, how do you think everything woulda went down that year? would we have got hogan vs warrior 2? does savage still have a retirement match? what does sgt slaughter do that year then? Knowing Vince he'd go with Hulk Hogan vs. Tugboat. My guess is that Tugboat will become Typhoon and will be allies with Earthquake. Savage will still have a retirement match since he asked for a semi-retirement. Sgt. Slaughter will be the beloved GI JOE character with Vince selling more action figures of him. Slaughter might just last longer, have a great team for Survivor Series 1991 of American Heroes.
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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 1, 2020 12:27:49 GMT -5
I liked Warrior as a kid, but had I been an adult back then I probably wouldn't be a fan and would have not been happy with the WM 6 main event. Being that Warrior wasn't drawing as champion he should have lost the title to Rude at Summerslam and they could have built to Rude vs Hogan at WM 7. Wouldn't that be better than Hogan vs Slaugter(and I like Sarge). I did a diary on that, sort of with Rude going over at SummerSlam and turning face to take on Slaughter at WM7 lol
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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 1, 2020 12:25:40 GMT -5
as for wm6, i see hogan vs an undefeated still mr.perfect. he's the only real viable challenger unless they had rick rude go after hulk. but they'd have to push hard how perfect has never lost as its just not a wm main event worthy match imo. earthquake was still being built up yet. warrior would prob defend against bravo or rude again. maybe barbarian gets a big push and challenges him. me personally, if no hulk/warrior, id like to have seen rhodes do heel turn and maybe get pissed at vince for the polka dot thing and say how he was trying to keep the former nwa/wcw champion down and how he came here to be champion and beat hulk hogan and show the world who the real wrestling champions are (nwa/wcw). View AttachmentI built up Perfect this way as the guy who cost the Hulk a match with the Genius, broke his belt, cost him the title, beat him at the Rumble to give it enough time. I think they didn't originally give that feud enough time because it started so late on TV, Vince was still milking the movie as much as he could, and Perfect just needed more things to do. They did sellout twice though but in 1990. Interesting idea with Dusty, not sure if Dusty would've accepted becoming a heel. Hulk would have to drop the title no matter what since he was on his way out for movies and his wife was pregnant again. So unless Hulk drops it at a house show after WM, I could see Dusty and Hulk.
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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 1, 2020 12:21:13 GMT -5
Wasn't Dibase vs Roberts a letdown match? The promo by Jake was epic, perhaps his best so makes up for the match.
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 29, 2020 14:16:07 GMT -5
You know what would be my choice if we didnt get the Ultimate Challenge? Savage/Hogan 2 with Mach getting his revenge from a year prior with him becoming a 2 time champ right there in Skydome after hitting em with the flying elbow in a clean win! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH That would be awesome but they would need to keep him strong going forward and not get pinned by Hulk for it to work at Wrestlemania 6. Zeus may have also overshadowed (I don't mean his in ring work lol) the Macho King as the big bad heel.
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 29, 2020 12:36:08 GMT -5
Legends can still work with other talent to put over, it doesn't have to be a completely separate division, it was just that there was now a title they can go for too to be known as the greatest legend there is. WWE Legends have their own division-the Wrestlemania main card Maybe, or the Greatest Royal Rumble and stuff lol
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 29, 2020 11:04:47 GMT -5
Legends can still work with other talent to put over, it doesn't have to be a completely separate division, it was just that there was now a title they can go for too to be known as the greatest legend there is. I'm not sure a title would have been the way to go. Perhaps a yearly 5 on 5 at Survivor Series or an alumni battle royal of sorts. If we can get a 24/7 title we could've gotten a legends one after all Vince saw belts as props and nothing more so this at least would make Legends stand out. We've had battle royals before like the gimmick one at WM17, Survivor Series would be fun though.
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 29, 2020 10:48:50 GMT -5
It will ALWAYS be the SCARY version of Kane from 1997-1998, the same one who would win the WWF Championship off of Austin, even if it was for one night. What a run, too bad they turned him into a joke.
Honestly I would've loved if (the same scary) Kane took the streak from Taker ten years down the road (honestly I was rooting for Kane at WM14).
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 29, 2020 10:46:10 GMT -5
Nah I think it was better to have the legends work for the regular titles. Instead of cornering them off on an island like they were crusiers. Especially since legends working with the younger guys was what gave the up and comers the rub. Legends can still work with other talent to put over, it doesn't have to be a completely separate division, it was just that there was now a title they can go for too to be known as the greatest legend there is.
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 29, 2020 10:28:23 GMT -5
I remember back in in the day (probably 2002-2003?), I believe it was Flair who came up with the idea of a WWE Legends title, since there were legends already in the WWE and hall of famers. I was hyped up about the idea and it just never took place. The Legends Title didn't have to be a full-time championship, more of a part-time championship, maybe once a month or on PPVs etc just to make sure too much time wasn't taken away from younger talent, and with so many legends to choose from over the years I think it would've worked well. I could see Flair, Hogan, and Piper having the strap around that time. Flair being the first champ would've made sense. I also think it would've been awesome to have a one time special stipulation where a non-Legend could take the title, hence culminating in the Legend Killer Randy Orton taking the Legends title and Hogan (or someone else) taking the belt back (a nice way for Hogan's final WWE match is winning it back). What do you think?
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 29, 2020 10:20:55 GMT -5
Lister must have been wearing 5 inch lifts on those boots to be looking down on hogan. It’s no wonder he couldn’t move around well He is 6 foot 5 if I recall, so I assume ya he most likely did at least in the movie (or was just shot that way)
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 27, 2020 23:37:37 GMT -5
Back on the topic of the Ultimate Challenge, I said it before and I'll say it again....I'm glad this never came to fruition Yeah, that would have been bad. Though, I think the proposed idea for WM7 would have been worse than this. Though, the toy looks cool: Sheikh Tugboat would've been just weird. I just don't get why someone like Warlord wasn't repackaged as a Sheikh? He was beefed up and maybe not a promo guy, but with the right manager(s), and maybe if he just didn't speak English at all, it might've worked.
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 27, 2020 23:36:30 GMT -5
Back on the topic of the Ultimate Challenge, I said it before and I'll say it again....I'm glad this never came to fruition O gosh, if Lister could work than it may have been something else, but he just couldn't.
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 27, 2020 14:50:24 GMT -5
Dusty/Dibiase feud was fantastic. As I've said in the past here it was the closest we got to classic NWA Dusty in the WWF. What do you think of the idea of Dustin vs. Dusty down the road? Father vs. Son would've been something to see if done right. Like what if Dustin joined forces with Dibiase (as they were feuding at the time anyway when Dustin came on board), because it was better to be with money and to go places than being in the shadows of his father. Too bad they left and Hulk refused to even step in the ring with Dustin, something apparently they planned on doing. I don't even know how that would've worked, maybe they thought of Dustin turning heel after all?
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 26, 2020 15:44:30 GMT -5
Thanks! It would be nice to have Hogan vs. Perfect for the title, it could work I'm sure. Warrior holding unto the IC title is not a bad idea I suppose. Maybe the Canadian Earthquake and Warrior would be better than Bravo? I went for a revenge story line for Hulk, Perfect just ruining everything for Hulk, which also gives Warrior and Randy Savage a chance to feud. Quake/Warrior wouldve worked considering Quake did squash em in his debut in that strong man segment.Quake had to win the belt though. They were building him up strong during the beginning there so taking a loss wouldve did him no favors.Unless they did a dq or countout finish with Quake attacking him post match. As far as Warrior,/Savage I know I wouldnt of complained if they did the feud in early 90 but at the end of the day I'm glad they waited until the Fall to start it.The matches were nothing to write home about but overall I enjoyed the Savage/Dusty feud. Warrior and Savage had a great feud in early 1989, sold out everywhere they went and had two title for title matches too, so it would've been great I'm sure. I've always liked Dusty and Dibiase feuding, it just made more sense to me from a storyline point of view, the everyman versus the millionaire. Dusty vs. Savage was fine for two big stars of the 80s.
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