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Post by captainusa on Sept 28, 2008 9:49:52 GMT -5
Hi there!
Can anyone tell me why CS1 Bret Hart ain't pictured on the back of all the other five figure boxes from CS1? And in addition to that, why is Bret pictured with black sunglasses on, when they aren't even in the box?
Thanks!
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Post by jfinnomore on Sept 28, 2008 9:54:15 GMT -5
don't know about the other boxes but he's pictured with glasses cause the promo had them then jakks cheaped out on us again and took them out.
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Post by Legends Collector on Sept 28, 2008 9:56:02 GMT -5
I have heard/read some people say on here that he was a suprise figure, don't know how true that is though.
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Post by PJ on Sept 28, 2008 10:25:50 GMT -5
That's what I've read/heard too. That Bret was a last minute signing/addition.
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Post by DKR on Sept 28, 2008 10:37:46 GMT -5
don't know about the other boxes but he's pictured with glasses cause the promo had them then jakks cheaped out on us again and took them out.  It's not that JAKKS "cheaped out again." The glasses probably didn't cost out. JAKKS has to keep every figure and set down to a certain production cost to make budget and to eventually make profit (the reason that they are in business). Although the figure prototype,which was probably done way before the final budget constraints were set, included glasses, in the end they probably just didn't make budget. Remember, it cost JAKKS a good chunk of money to get CS1 off the ground...they had to sign Bret and Warrior (maybe Andre's estate as well) to new contracts. Plus new packaging costs. And don't forget that there were soft goods in CS1 that we rarely saw from JAKKS in the past (Helmsley's jacket and Warrior's various things). That stuff drives cost up... In the grand scheme of things, Bret Harts black glasses didnt make budget...I am sure that they would have loved to include them in their debut set of Classic Superstars. It wasn't just a ploy to "cheap out." Plus, the fact that we GOT a RA-style Bret Hart after the WWF/Hart BS is amazing in itself... |
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Post by jfinnomore on Sept 28, 2008 10:39:04 GMT -5
don't know about the other boxes but he's pictured with glasses cause the promo had them then jakks cheaped out on us again and took them out. It's not that JAKKS "cheaped out again." The glasses probably didn't cost out. JAKKS has to keep every figure and set down to a certain production cost to make budget and to eventually make profit (the reason that they are in business). Although the figure prototype,which was probably done way before the final budget constraints which were set, included glasses, in the end they probably just didn't make budget. Remember, it costs JAKKS a good chunk of money to get CS1 off the ground...they had to sign Bret and Warrior (maybe Andre's estate as well) to new contracts. Plus new packaging costs. And don't forget that there were soft goods in CS1 that we rarely saw from JAKKS in the past (Helmsley's jacket and Warrior's various things). That stuff drives cost up... In the grand scheme of things, Bret Harts black glasses didnt make budget...I am sure that they would have loved to include them in their debut set of Classic Superstars. It wasn't just a ploy to "cheap out." Plus, the fact that we GOT a RA-style Bret Hart after the WWF/Hart BS should is amazing in itself... so pretty much you felt the need to write 4 paragraphs to explain it the same way i did, i just paraphrased it, jakks cheaped out. but thank you so much for the lesson in running an action figure business, it was thrilling. |
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Post by DKR on Sept 28, 2008 10:42:28 GMT -5
It's not that JAKKS "cheaped out again." The glasses probably didn't cost out. JAKKS has to keep every figure and set down to a certain production cost to make budget and to eventually make profit (the reason that they are in business). Although the figure prototype,which was probably done way before the final budget constraints which were set, included glasses, in the end they probably just didn't make budget. Remember, it costs JAKKS a good chunk of money to get CS1 off the ground...they had to sign Bret and Warrior (maybe Andre's estate as well) to new contracts. Plus new packaging costs. And don't forget that there were soft goods in CS1 that we rarely saw from JAKKS in the past (Helmsley's jacket and Warrior's various things). That stuff drives cost up... In the grand scheme of things, Bret Harts black glasses didnt make budget...I am sure that they would have loved to include them in their debut set of Classic Superstars. It wasn't just a ploy to "cheap out." Plus, the fact that we GOT a RA-style Bret Hart after the WWF/Hart BS should is amazing in itself... so pretty much you felt the need to write 3 paragraphs to explain it the same way i did, i just paraphrased it, jakks cheaped out. You obviously didn't read a word of what I wrote if you think I was saying that Jakks cheapd out...in my opinion, it was quite opposite. But I see that this is not a discussion worth continuing... |
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Post by jfinnomore on Sept 28, 2008 10:45:50 GMT -5
so pretty much you felt the need to write 3 paragraphs to explain it the same way i did, i just paraphrased it, jakks cheaped out. You obviously didn't read a word of what I wrote if you think I was saying that Jakks cheapd out...in my opinion, it was quite opposite. But I see that this is not a discussion worth continuing... and as i said thank you so much for the business lesson. I'll remember that next time Jakks doesn't included a trade mark accessory or detail on a figure when im fixing them up. |
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Post by plasticsuperstar on Sept 28, 2008 11:28:27 GMT -5
so pretty much you felt the need to write 3 paragraphs to explain it the same way i did, i just paraphrased it, jakks cheaped out. You obviously didn't read a word of what I wrote if you think I was saying that Jakks cheapd out...in my opinion, it was quite opposite. But I see that this is not a discussion worth continuing... You are basically saying the same thing, "cheaping out" and "coming in under budget" amount to the same thing. It's not like Jakks are trying desperately to break even, they are deciding how much profit they want to make per figure, that's why they remove as much as they can from each figure before releasing it. The thousands of pairs of little sunglasses they would've needed to make wouldn't really have cost very much at all compared to the accessories that most other brands action figures come with so I think "cheaped out" is a fair description really IMO. |
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