warmachine76
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Post by warmachine76 on Sept 28, 2008 22:12:44 GMT -5
In my opinion TNA should add a mid-card title. TNA always seems to have a very crowded main event scene and I think this would help. It would give guys like Abyss, Robert Roode, James Storm, Matt Morgan, and Rhino something to feud over. Other than the tag titles.
I would like to hear everyone else's opinions.
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 28, 2008 22:24:16 GMT -5
No because they already have the World Title, Tag Team Titles, Knockouts Title, and the X-Division title. Adding another title to the mix is way too much. TNA is a 1 night 2 hour program. They cant fit 5 title scenes and some other feuds in just 1 night a week. Keep it the way it is.
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Post by Heresy on Sept 28, 2008 22:29:57 GMT -5
Like I said in a similar topic... the tag titles and X-division title should be the only two paths to the World title. Adding a midcard title would cement the X-division as a crusierweight division and that is something TNA can't afford to do. If you aren't an X-division type wrestler, you build yourself up in the tag division. If you reach the top of the tag division but aren't ready for a main event push, you go without a title chase for a while (god forbid) and feud with a few main eventers until you are ready. If you're not, you're not. If you are, you wouldn't have needed a placeholder title to get you there.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 28, 2008 22:56:18 GMT -5
Like I said in a similar topic... the tag titles and X-division title should be the only two paths to the World title. Adding a midcard title would cement the X-division as a crusierweight division and that is something TNA can't afford to do. If you aren't an X-division type wrestler, you build yourself up in the tag division. If you reach the top of the tag division but aren't ready for a main event push, you go without a title chase for a while (god forbid) and feud with a few main eventers until you are ready. If you're not, you're not. If you are, you wouldn't have needed a placeholder title to get you there. The x-division title scene is really bad though. They need to have some of those main eventers go there for a while because it would help. Davari is not a good champ and Creed it too new but he will win soon. What would they call the new title if they did make one? |
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 28, 2008 23:00:22 GMT -5
Like I said in a similar topic... the tag titles and X-division title should be the only two paths to the World title. Adding a midcard title would cement the X-division as a crusierweight division and that is something TNA can't afford to do. If you aren't an X-division type wrestler, you build yourself up in the tag division. If you reach the top of the tag division but aren't ready for a main event push, you go without a title chase for a while (god forbid) and feud with a few main eventers until you are ready. If you're not, you're not. If you are, you wouldn't have needed a placeholder title to get you there. The x-division title scene is really bad though. They need to have some of those main eventers go there for a while because it would help. Davari is not a good champ and Creed it too new but he will win soon. What would they call the new title if they did make one? How would having a main eventer move into the X-Division help them? It wouldn't. The only guys in the main event that could have good matces in that division is AJ, Joe, Cage and Kurt (sometimes). Joe's the champ, Kurt's feuding wit Jarrett, Cage/AJ seem to be starting to feud. There's noone else to move down. How can you say Bashir's not a good champion? He's only been champion 2-3 weeks. It's fine to say "I don't think he's a good wrestler" but you can't say he's not a good champion 2-3 weeks in. |
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Sept 28, 2008 23:09:12 GMT -5
The x-division needs to be revamped & go back to what it was. period. so that belt stands on its own. as for a mid-card title, that should be the stepping stone to the world title the way the IC belt in the ol'wwf used to be & the us title back in wcw was. i personally would love to see a robert roode hold such a title for a long period of time building him up for the main event showdown. he's extremely talented but who wants to see him in the tag division forever? not me & he's nly been in one real main event at the last KOTM match. he deserves more IMO as do the rest of the roster.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 28, 2008 23:17:25 GMT -5
The x-division title scene is really bad though. They need to have some of those main eventers go there for a while because it would help. Davari is not a good champ and Creed it too new but he will win soon. What would they call the new title if they did make one? How would having a main eventer move into the X-Division help them? It wouldn't. The only guys in the main event that could have good matces in that division is AJ, Joe, Cage and Kurt (sometimes). Joe's the champ, Kurt's feuding wit Jarrett, Cage/AJ seem to be starting to feud. There's noone else to move down. How can you say Bashir's not a good champion? He's only been champion 2-3 weeks. It's fine to say "I don't think he's a good wrestler" but you can't say he's not a good champion 2-3 weeks in. Well I think that if you are a bad wrestler then you are also a bad champ as well.. He sucks and he needs to lose the title. I also think that robert rude would be a good x-division champ but he is the tag champ, but at least he is a champ.. |
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 28, 2008 23:19:36 GMT -5
How would having a main eventer move into the X-Division help them? It wouldn't. The only guys in the main event that could have good matces in that division is AJ, Joe, Cage and Kurt (sometimes). Joe's the champ, Kurt's feuding wit Jarrett, Cage/AJ seem to be starting to feud. There's noone else to move down. How can you say Bashir's not a good champion? He's only been champion 2-3 weeks. It's fine to say "I don't think he's a good wrestler" but you can't say he's not a good champion 2-3 weeks in. Well I think that if you are a bad wrestler then you are also a bad champ as well.. He sucks and he needs to lose the title. I also think that robert rude would be a good x-division champ but he is the tag champ, but at least he is a champ.. Being a "great wrestler" or a "bad wrestler" has nothing to do wit being a campion - Hogan, Warrior, Cena. Also, it's R oode  |
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Post by Heresy on Sept 28, 2008 23:35:28 GMT -5
The x-division needs to be revamped & go back to what it was. period. so that belt stands on its own. as for a mid-card title, that should be the stepping stone to the world title the way the IC belt in the ol'wwf used to be & the us title back in wcw was. i personally would love to see a robert roode hold such a title for a long period of time building him up for the main event showdown. he's extremely talented but who wants to see him in the tag division forever? not me & he's nly been in one real main event at the last KOTM match. he deserves more IMO as do the rest of the roster. So where is the X-division in relation to your tag, heavyweight, and midcard divisions? Below midcard, it's a glorified cruiserweight division. Above midcard, you defeat the purpose of a meaningful midcard title. At the same level, you have too many pathways to the heavyweight title. If Robert Roode is that talented, he could go for the X-division title... afterall it ain't about weight limits it's about blah blah blah. If the X-division title still doesn't make him a worthy main eventer (which I personally think four years being a significant, talented main stay in the company already does) than nothing would. Face facts, Creed and Bashir are the new kiddies on the block and present a less cutting edge style than the X-division used to stand for. They already are a discredit to the division being on top of it as a result. They should be working from the ground up... they shouldn't be the only two guys who happen to be there with nothing to do so, here have an X-division title feud. At this point, the X-division title should be defended by and against guys like Sonjay Dutt, Jay Lethal, Petey Williams, Christopher Daniels, Alex Shelley, Chris Sabin... even Johnny Devine and Jimmy Rave. But ya gotta love that group of winners over at TNA who hand pick the two least experienced, least exciting wrestlers to represent their most product-differentiating concept. |
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Sept 28, 2008 23:52:31 GMT -5
It's called the X division title as the mid card guys are all practically x Division guys plus the X Division technically doesn't have a weight classification.
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 28, 2008 23:56:58 GMT -5
It's called the X division title as the mid card guys are all practically x Division guys plus the X Division technically doesn't have a weight classification. B-I-N-G-O! That's someting that TNA needs to put out their again - meaning put the belt on a James Storm, a Robert Roode, etc. |
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Post by The Mac on Sept 29, 2008 4:52:26 GMT -5
I think it would be a good idea form guys like Morgan,Lethal, Abyss,Kip James,Rhino James Storm,Roode!!!
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Post by layton on Sept 29, 2008 13:04:52 GMT -5
There is really no reason for this. The X-division title IS the mid-card title. What they really need to do is make it more credible. They do not need another title. Once there are as many titles as there are in WWE, it really does not matter who the champion is, because there are so many. I think they should keep the titles to a minimum. I do however feel like they need to make the X-division something great like it used to be. That would satisfy what you feel is a need for a mid-card title.
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Post by laythvandam on Sept 29, 2008 13:34:00 GMT -5
I voted no, as the belt situation in TNA is perfect, they need to make the X Division belt mean something again like it was in 2005.
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Post by Adam on Sept 29, 2008 16:45:33 GMT -5
How about just making the X-division meaningful again?
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Post by K5 on Sept 29, 2008 17:57:49 GMT -5
no, unless it is called the tv or steel knuckles title.
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Sept 29, 2008 19:52:58 GMT -5
The x-division needs to be revamped & go back to what it was. period. so that belt stands on its own. as for a mid-card title, that should be the stepping stone to the world title the way the IC belt in the ol'wwf used to be & the us title back in wcw was. i personally would love to see a robert roode hold such a title for a long period of time building him up for the main event showdown. he's extremely talented but who wants to see him in the tag division forever? not me & he's nly been in one real main event at the last KOTM match. he deserves more IMO as do the rest of the roster. So where is the X-division in relation to your tag, heavyweight, and midcard divisions? Below midcard, it's a glorified cruiserweight division. Above midcard, you defeat the purpose of a meaningful midcard title. At the same level, you have too many pathways to the heavyweight title. If Robert Roode is that talented, he could go for the X-division title... afterall it ain't about weight limits it's about blah blah blah. If the X-division title still doesn't make him a worthy main eventer (which I personally think four years being a significant, talented main stay in the company already does) than nothing would. Face facts, Creed and Bashir are the new kiddies on the block and present a less cutting edge style than the X-division used to stand for. They already are a discredit to the division being on top of it as a result. They should be working from the ground up... they shouldn't be the only two guys who happen to be there with nothing to do so, here have an X-division title feud. At this point, the X-division title should be defended by and against guys like Sonjay Dutt, Jay Lethal, Petey Williams, Christopher Daniels, Alex Shelley, Chris Sabin... even Johnny Devine and Jimmy Rave. But ya gotta love that group of winners over at TNA who hand pick the two least experienced, least exciting wrestlers to represent their most product-differentiating concept. it is a glorified cruiserweight division...now. it wasn't always and was a stand alone product. i would be interested to see the idea of expanding the x title to whomever as a result of the excess of wrestlers on the roster. killings would have fit the title IMO. i TOTALLY agree with what you said bout hand picking. not a good move. |
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Sept 29, 2008 20:52:50 GMT -5
The X Division used to be on par and at times showcased more potential than their heavyweight title even though it was then the NWA title belt.
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Post by Heresy on Sept 29, 2008 22:52:34 GMT -5
it is a glorified cruiserweight division...now. And it would stay that way if TNA acknowledged a third singles title that is second to the World title. At least TNA still has a chance to make the X-division the place to be to become a main eventer. Take that away and you have WWE in a sound studio minus the viewing audience. Talented "cruiserweights" going nowhere in the undercard while the larger guys have uneventful, WWE style matches on the rest of the card. Is that what some of you want? I feel bad for TNA then. It's fans like you that impede the progress of a company capable of branding itself through product differentiation. ECW had the hardcore style, WCW had nWo, WWE has Wrestlemania/Sports Entertainment, TNA SHOULD have the X-division. To think ROH gets by with only a World title and tag titles, yet more importance is placed on those three spots than any other in the US. Oh and the roster survives without everyone needing a belt around their waste. |
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Post by jjkotm on Sept 29, 2008 22:54:47 GMT -5
TNA really needs to make a decision. Most people could care less about the x-division title in its current state. All the guys going for it are uninteresting undercarders. They either need to seriously build it up again, or just pull the plug on it for the most part and have it turn into a belt that is meant to held by heavyweight mid-carders for the most part, like the European title of some sorts. While I'm not big fans of guys like Rhino or Matt Morgan, they'd be better suited holding a title belt at this point than someone like Creed or Daivari.
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