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Post by Blade on Sept 29, 2008 15:06:28 GMT -5
Jersey All Pro Wrestling has just been informed by Little Guido that he is ready to step back in the ring with JAPW World Tag Team Champions and TNA Superstars LAX as he will reunite with fellow Full Blooded Italian member Tracy Smothers on Saturday night November 15th at The Golden Doors Charter School 180 9th Street in Jersey City, NJ! Tickets are on sale now at www.japw.netJAPW management has been negotiating with a former superstar to make his return for the last few weeks. One of the stipulations would be that he would receive a World Heavyweight Title opportunity and with that said the match has been signed! On 11/15/08 World Champion Kenny Omega will defend his title against the returning BBOY! NJ State Champion The Grim Reefer will defend his title against one of the most popular wrestlers in the Hudson County Market Bandido Jr! The Brisoce Brothers make their long awaited return that night as they will face the Tag Team of D-N-A, Dixie & Azrieal! The Brisoce Brothers also want it to be known that LAX does not have to wait till Dec and should man up in Jersey City that night! Dan Maff is outraged over losing a match so quick since returning to JAPW just a few short months ago to Danny Demanto. JAPW officials are very worried about these two superstars safety and have decided to let them go at it once and for all. Who is tougher, lets find out as they will battle in a last man standing match that night! Demanto has stated that if he can't defeat Maff he will forfeit his NJ State title opportunity in Dec! "The Best Around" Bruce Maxwell & TJ Cannon will clash with "The Garden State Gods" Corvis Fear & Mike Quest. More Matches TBA...... Jersey All Pro Wrestling Presents "RE-BOOT" Live Saturday night November 15, 2008 The Golden Doors Charter School 180 9th Street in Jersey City, NJ across the street from Newport Mall and The Holland Tunnel! Tickets: (1st Row $30) (2nd $25) (3rd $20) (G&A $18) Tickets are on sale now at www.japw.net or at the door that night.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 29, 2008 15:30:51 GMT -5
I love BBoy. Guess retirement didnt last all that long.
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Post by WCWA Online on Sept 29, 2008 19:19:32 GMT -5
I love BBoy. Guess retirement didnt last all that long. he returned recently for CZW. Man, Tracy/Hernadez could be the fight of the millineum.. I really hope Hernadez pulls his old stiff crazy bastard act, because other than Masada, I think Tracy could be the one person that could legit go punch for punch with him, and may be tougher than him in a "shoot fight". Tracy's legit crazy, yet still one of the best around. T is for Terrible H is for Hell U is for Ugly G is for Jail, cause a Thug can't SPELL! other than that, the card looks pretty lame/lackluster.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 29, 2008 20:22:25 GMT -5
I love BBoy. Guess retirement didnt last all that long. he returned recently for CZW. Man, Tracy/Hernadez could be the fight of the millineum.. I really hope Hernadez pulls his old stiff crazy bastard act, because other than Masada, I think Tracy could be the one person that could legit go punch for punch with him, and may be tougher than him in a "shoot fight". Tracy's legit crazy, yet still one of the best around. T is for Terrible H is for Hell U is for Ugly G is for Jail, cause a Thug can't SPELL! other than that, the card looks pretty lame/lackluster. I know. But it was said to be a 1 time thing.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 29, 2008 20:42:45 GMT -5
I love BBoy. Guess retirement didnt last all that long. he returned recently for CZW. Man, Tracy/Hernadez could be the fight of the millineum.. I really hope Hernadez pulls his old stiff crazy bastard act, because other than Masada, I think Tracy could be the one person that could legit go punch for punch with him, and may be tougher than him in a "shoot fight". Tracy's legit crazy, yet still one of the best around. T is for Terrible H is for Hell U is for Ugly G is for Jail, cause a Thug can't SPELL! other than that, the card looks pretty lame/lackluster. How many Kenny Omega matches have you seen to say that Kenny Omega vs B-Boy is lackluster? Also what about the Briscoes vs Azrieal & Dixie? Dixie hasn't lost a step and Azrieal is one of the most underrated guys on the indy scene. Should no doubt be a really fun tag match. I'd also mention Maff/Demanto which has been a great feud so far but I will just get the response of how "awful" Demanto is even though he's had great matches with Omega, Maff, & Kingston as well as how Maff is a never was or the typical indy smark response that "he was cool in 2004 and not in 2008" even though he hasn't lost a step and none of the DVD's with his matches from 2008 are out yet so the only way to of seen him so far is at live shows. Maff is great at playing the school yard bully and Demanto is great at talking bumps and playing the babyface here. The psychology is certainly there. If this was happening in IWA-MS or Chikara you would be creaming yourself over it. However no one here follows JAPW other than results to know any of the feuds or what the feuds are about so whatever nor have they seen most of the young talent on their roster to judge if they are good or not.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Sept 29, 2008 20:48:01 GMT -5
There is no such thing as retirement in wrestling
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Post by WCWA Online on Sept 29, 2008 20:51:20 GMT -5
Azrieal & Dixie never had a step to lose? You have to have something to lose it..
I've seen a couple of Kenny Omega matches. I've seen a couple of JAPW shows that have passed through my house at various points.. I can honestly say, Kenny Omega versus B-Boy should be pretty terrible.. B-Boy has lost a LOT of his flare, especially with Homicide being like a mini B-Boy, but better, more refined. In the same way that The Maximos and Red were outshined when guys like Jack Evans and Pac showed up, B-Boy is the same way.
Dan Maff has never had anything and sucks an unbelievable amount of dick. The only thing he's ever done that made me care was getting knocked out by Low Ki.
Demanto is quite possibly the sloppiest worker I've ever seen.. and I have a "Best of Mike Levy" DVD. No joke. He gave it to me the day before the whole world fell on him. Demanto is sloppier than Levy. At least Levy knows that he can't do moonsaults, so he doesn't try them and end up knocking the person he's doing them to's front teeth out with a knee to the mouth. Or refuse to take a bump when he's already on top for it, making everyone involved look intellectually- disabled (see TOD: Fast Forward and Scotty Vortekz). Check your DVDs.. I'd say go for IWA Mid South A Bloody Road Ahead 2008 from Indianapolis.. Watch Demanto's match.. and how the crowd is either dead, or jeering about how sloppy he is.. To tell you how bad he is, more than 10 people (out of an admittedly 40 person or so crowd) were chanting "We want Z-Barr". Think about that..
I've seen JAPW. There are a few things I like.. The use of these horrifyingly horrible local guys I do not like. Their lack of DVD distribution also hurts. If they were smart, they'd get a deal with Smart Mark Video, even at the $15 rate. I find myself a lot more willing to buy a DVD when it's coming from SMV, over emailing some random guy somewhere, going through different websites, paying extra shipping prices for one show, etc.
Besides, you fail to even acknowledge that 95% of my post was putting over someone booked in JAPW, and interest in a match booked, a match that will probably sell me a DVD if it turns out as good as it could be, but instead went on some tanget about the rest of the card..
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 29, 2008 21:03:44 GMT -5
If you think Maff, B-Boy, Dixie & Azrieal are all terrible then I'm just ending this argument now.
I wasn't saying you were putting the show down but I wanted to know why you would think certain matches are terrible, now that you mentioned it, there is no use in arguing it because you think all of those guys are terrible so I'm moving on.
Yes JAPW could get a deal with smart mark video and it would help them huge in the DVD market but they would also have to change a good chunk of their roster which would mean no LAX, Lethal or the use of any other TNA guys. That might be easy to say but LAX are huge draw for JAPW. As is Lethal since using his Black Machismo stuff.
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Post by the franchise on Sept 29, 2008 22:01:21 GMT -5
I have never been a big B-Boy guy myself. Some of his PWG stuff is pretty good though. For a tag team named The Best Around you would think they would actually be better than they are.
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Post by jjkotm on Sept 29, 2008 22:04:48 GMT -5
Because of college, I haven't been to a JAPW show since the summer. But B-Boy-Omega does not look good at all. Omega as champion has been pretty lackluster in my opinion. Omega is a solid wrestler, but nothing about him screams "champion". He just doesn't have "it". That "it" like Lethal, Teddy Hart, Rhino, etc. have had as JAPW champion. And it's dumb to keep having Omega defend against random guys like Reefer, Lethal, B-Boy, etc. Omega-Demanto is the only match that had a backstory to it, and then Omega-Ki will be as well.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 29, 2008 22:18:21 GMT -5
I don't know what you're talking about. During Lethal's run everyone said he didn't have that "it" factor but then he was in TNA right after that. Of course B-Boy/Omega doesn't look good to you it's not a TNA guy vs TNA guy main event as you go to the JAPW board and **** on every single wrestler that's not a TNA guy aside from Kingston. I can accept if someone don't like an indy guy because they just don't like them but aside from Kingston you don't like any guys not on TV. You have even admitted you only go to shows for the TNA talent.
Omega's matches other than the Demanto one don't have a back story?
Omega vs Kazarian- Kaz was #1 contender because he hadn't been defeated in over 6 months Omega vs Reefer- Champion vs Champion match Omega vs Lethal- Lethal defeated Omega in their first match before Omega won the title Omega vs Rhino- Rhino won the Ultimate Rumble the night before and was never pinned during his run with the title Omega vs B-Boy- No back story here, just a great match but I'm sure B-Boy will cut a promo or something about Omega beating his friend Low Ki while injured.
That's indy wrestling, you make names by using guys not everyone heard of and then they get over. You might not like Omega but there are plenty of people on the ROH board begging for Omega to come back to ROH. He also just got back from a tour in DDT where he wrestled Kota Ibushi as well as rumor has it was suggested by Jay Lethal and Kaz for TNA. Before Omega won the JAPW title no one heard of him. He was known as that guy Samoa Joe wouldn't job to but after he won the title he was given a shot in ROH and will be given more in the future.
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Post by WCWA Online on Sept 29, 2008 23:07:52 GMT -5
Yes JAPW could get a deal with smart mark video and it would help them huge in the DVD market but they would also have to change a good chunk of their roster which would mean no LAX, Lethal or the use of any other TNA guys. That might be easy to say but LAX are huge draw for JAPW. As is Lethal since using his Black Machismo stuff. Untrue. F1RST has used Jerry Lawler before, and that DVD was released. IWA used to use TNA guys constantly (Low Ki, Hernandez, Homicide etc. up through 2007) and all their stuff has always been released through SMV. The problem has always been sites like Highspots, RF, etc... not SMV. Suprisingly, SMV was never even brought up in the big stink, which seems to have faded away anyways, with select TNA guys back in ROH and PWG.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 29, 2008 23:23:19 GMT -5
Your right. I do remember seeing Sonjay Dutt on a few Chikara DVD's recently. JAPW could go to smart mark video and it would help get their name out there with the smart marks but would those fans smart mark video caters to even buy the JAPW DVD's? I mean that fanbase seems to hate 75% of their talent anyway though I still and will always believe it's because they don't see them perform at JAPW shows. I mean if I seen a guy like Hero only based on his JAPW matches I suppose I wouldn't get the hype either. Not that they have been bad(I liked his matches with AJ & Lethal a well as his tag with Kingston against the SST) but it certainly hasn't been his best work.
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Post by jjkotm on Sept 29, 2008 23:32:21 GMT -5
I don't know what you're talking about. During Lethal's run everyone said he didn't have that "it" factor but then he was in TNA right after that. Of course B-Boy/Omega doesn't look good to you it's not a TNA guy vs TNA guy main event as you go to the JAPW board and **** on every single wrestler that's not a TNA guy aside from Kingston. I can accept if someone don't like an indy guy because they just don't like them but aside from Kingston you don't like any guys not on TV. You have even admitted you only go to shows for the TNA talent. Omega's matches other than the Demanto one don't have a back story? Omega vs Kazarian- Kaz was #1 contender because he hadn't been defeated in over 6 months Omega vs Reefer- Champion vs Champion match Omega vs Lethal- Lethal defeated Omega in their first match before Omega won the title Omega vs Rhino- Rhino won the Ultimate Rumble the night before and was never pinned during his run with the title Omega vs B-Boy- No back story here, just a great match but I'm sure B-Boy will cut a promo or something about Omega beating his friend Low Ki while injured. That's indy wrestling, you make names by using guys not everyone heard of and then they get over. You might not like Omega but there are plenty of people on the ROH board begging for Omega to come back to ROH. He also just got back from a tour in DDT where he wrestled Kota Ibushi as well as rumor has it was suggested by Jay Lethal and Kaz for TNA. Before Omega won the JAPW title no one heard of him. He was known as that guy Samoa Joe wouldn't job to but after he won the title he was given a shot in ROH and will be given more in the future. First of all, I don't crapon anyone on the JAPW message board, because I don't even post there. I forgot about Omega-Kaz. Omega-Reefer was because Omega had nothing going on, and Christian-Rave was the main selling point. With Omega-Lethal, Lethal hasn't won a match in forever and was just randomly booked against Omega. With Omega-Rhino, I guess it's ok because of the UR, but it was a DQ anyway. With Omega-B-Boy, it's dumb that he's gone for about a year, and gets a title shot. A non-title match would make a lot more sense. I don't dislike guys just because they aren't in TNA. I never said I disliked Omega. In my opinion, he just doesn't cut it as champion. I go to pretty much any JAPW show that runs while I'm not at college, not based on what TNA guys will be there. But pretty much in one year, we went from main events like Low Ki vs. Samoa Joe and Low Ki vs. A.J. Styles to Kenny Omega vs. Grim Reefer and Kenny Omega vs. Jay Lethal. Pretty big drop there in my opinion.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 29, 2008 23:55:42 GMT -5
You're The Coolest on the JAPW board don't even try to deny it. You make posts there and then make almost exactly the same post here with the exact same opinions, **** on the same JAPW guys and praise the TNA talent. If I remember correctly you didn't like Low Ki as champion either because he was "too boring". What kind of wrestling fan are you?
You have already admitted that the only JAPW guy you like that isn't or wasn't on TV was Kingston in plenty of arguments you got in.
Omega/Reefer was done because of the lack of depth in the roster at the time with Hart going to Mexico and Ki being injured. Since then the main event scene has picked up.
You aren't even a real indy wrestling fan. You go to shows because of TV names and bitch when there isn't a TV guy vs TV guy main event. If TNA pulled their talent you would probably never attend again.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Sept 30, 2008 0:39:33 GMT -5
If you think Maff, B-Boy, Dixie & Azrieal are all terrible then I'm just ending this argument now. I wasn't saying you were putting the show down but I wanted to know why you would think certain matches are terrible, now that you mentioned it, there is no use in arguing it because you think all of those guys are terrible so I'm moving on. Yes JAPW could get a deal with smart mark video and it would help them huge in the DVD market but they would also have to change a good chunk of their roster which would mean no LAX, Lethal or the use of any other TNA guys. That might be easy to say but LAX are huge draw for JAPW. As is Lethal since using his Black Machismo stuff. You make a good point. That is too bad that TNA restricts it because the wrestlers would make better money on the indy circuit if they could at least be sold by SMV.
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Post by perilloboy123 on Sept 30, 2008 7:26:04 GMT -5
Is Guido now a permanent member of the JAPW roster?
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Post by chriswf on Sept 30, 2008 7:35:51 GMT -5
Let's hope not. Omega/B-Boy does sound pretty good, if B-Boy can keep up with Omega. Out of all the Omega stuff I've seen though he really seems like a huge spot monkey, but he's entertaining. Azrieal & Dixie never interested me, same for Maff. And Demanto is terrible.
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Post by bigeazy on Sept 30, 2008 10:24:48 GMT -5
Not big on Kenny Omega, the guy isn't ready for anything major. He needs more ring time and JAPW is giving it o him. In a few years he might be able to break out. Working with guys like B-Boy isn't going to help though.
Also I'd highly doubt Smothers will be able to make this show. I just can't see him being sober long enough to get on a plane.
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Post by WCWA Online on Sept 30, 2008 10:40:26 GMT -5
Tracy usually doesn't fly. He usually drives, and hits bookings along the way to each booking. His schedule is neat that way.
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